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Boiled Goose

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Definitely disappointing by Warren. When it came out she should have just said she was mistaken about her ancestry and it was a mistake to list that as race.

Note that a lot of white passing people do identify as native American and do have significant heritage. But as we now know, she doesn't.
 

B-Dubs

That's some catch, that catch-22
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Oct 25, 2017
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Why was the Elizabeth Warren claiming to be American Indian thread closed? New news. It's weird to close that thread IMO, but what do I know?
We don't want a million primary threads turning into a million defacto OTs, hence this thread.

Debates will get their own threads and once the voting starts then this OT gets closed and it's off to the races.
 

AdrianG4

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Who would had thought that Warren would be the most foolish looking candidate in the Dem primary.

I think that unless Beto runs, this is going to be a mostly predictable primary.
 
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official policy is that all 2020 primary candidate news that would otherwise be threads get subsumed into this thread unless they're announcing their campaign

e: or unless it's a debate!

Well that was newsworthy. There shouldn't be a thread about Corey Booker's new ad or Khamala Harris' proposed new policy. But Warren's thing is new and interesting and shouldn't be dumped in the middle of a huge thread that not a lot of people go in.

We don't want a million primary threads turning into a million defacto OTs, hence this thread.

Debates will get their own threads and once the voting starts then this OT gets closed and it's off to the races.

Yeah but not everyone wants to get in a gigantic thread and many will miss the news even if it was - temporarily - added to the thread title. The only reason I knew that happened is because I saw the old thread and clicked on it. I'm not trying to backseat mod though, I was just wondering. New news, new thread is what I always heard, so it made sense to me that it had its own thread.
 

Sandstar

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Especially if you consider Tucker bringing liberals on his show... just staring at them with a mix of confusion/disgust is probably exactly what Fox News viewers would find agreeable

I don't care enough to watch tucker, I just watched the SNL skit about him, and noticed that every. damn. screenshot. is of him with that "um....What" look.
 

Soda

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Alright, this is the second time I've seen Warren use minorities to her own political or career advantage, the two instances being 30 or so years apart. That's awful. She's gotta get out of this race ASAP and just be happy she doesn't lose her entire career over what I suspect will be more oppo-droppo leaks if she sticks around.
 

THE210

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What benefit is putting native American on a bar card other than being proud of your heritage? Many people are told they have Native American blood as children so of course they believe it.
 
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What benefit is putting native American on a bar card other than being proud of your heritage? Many people are told they have Native American blood as children so of course they believe it.

I'm sure there are Native American affirmative action programmes in these situations. It can be seen as fraudulent to lie about your race.
 

danm999

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What benefit is putting native American on a bar card other than being proud of your heritage? Many people are told they have Native American blood as children so of course they believe it.

I mean there's no way for me to read that form and see it as asking for anything other than your primary race. She should not have put that down.
 

SaveWeyard

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"We need to end bigotry because it's a threat to the state" is, uh, quite the interpretation.
 
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Akileese

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Well that was newsworthy. There shouldn't be a thread about Corey Booker's new ad or Khamala Harris' proposed new policy. But Warren's thing is new and interesting and shouldn't be dumped in the middle of a huge thread that not a lot of people go in.



Yeah but not everyone wants to get in a gigantic thread and many will miss the news even if it was - temporarily - added to the thread title. The only reason I knew that happened is because I saw the old thread and clicked on it. I'm not trying to backseat mod though, I was just wondering. New news, new thread is what I always heard, so it made sense to me that it had its own thread.

I don't want to backseat mod but maybe we need a political subforum? That way it's not flooding Etcera. I agree that the news is moving way too fast for all of it to be lumped into one thread but I also agree that having a thread for literally every newsworthy item isn't a good solution either.



"We need to end bigotry because it's a threat to the state" is, uh, quite the interpretation.


Edit: I read this is a few more times and I get what she's saying but the phrasing and verbiage throws me off despite being factually correct.
 

SaveWeyard

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A vast majority of terrorism perpetrated in the US has been done by white supremacists and the like.
The vast majority of violence is done by the state to its citizens. The difference is that it's legal.
It's basic facts tho.
I'm not taking issue with the the fact that these things happened, but rather that that is the reason action needs to be taken, and the implications of placing the impetus there.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Is there a list somewhere of American politicians who are acceptable besides Bernie and now AOC?





https://twitter.com/SeanMcElwee/status/1092880753237639169


Is he a big deal or is this just some trash Twitter take? Holy shit, I'm all for pointing out MLK was socialist but for the love of fuck realise that was due to the institutionalised racism against black people leaving them torn from their land, enslaved, then left with fucking nothing after building the country. Maybe don't invoke his name when trash talking a black candidate who fought against (and almost won) a ridiculous racist and crooked election to empower black communities.
 

samoyed

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Oct 26, 2017
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White people gonna continue invoking MLK to take down other blacks. I've seen it from centrists and now I've seen it from socialists.

White supremacy is a hell of a drug.

White Centrist: "Why can't you be more civil and inspiring like MLK"
White Socialist: "Why can't you be a proper socialist like MLK"
 

TerminusFox

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Oct 27, 2017
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White people gonna continue invoking MLK to take down other blacks. I've seen it from centrists and now I've seen it from socialists.

White supremacy is a hell of a drug.

White Centrist: "Why can't you be more civil and inspiring like MLK"
White Socialist: "Why can't you be a proper socialist like MLK"
Understatement of the century.
 

B-Dubs

That's some catch, that catch-22
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Oct 25, 2017
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White people gonna continue invoking MLK to take down other blacks. I've seen it from centrists and now I've seen it from socialists.

White supremacy is a hell of a drug.

White Centrist: "Why can't you be more civil and inspiring like MLK"
White Socialist: "Why can't you be a proper socialist like MLK"
Racism isn't linked to any specific ideology. Life would be miles easier if it was. There's plenty of racists all over the spectrum.
 
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