Of the Original 4, I could see Thor & Hulk sticking around (more so Thor). But yeah, Spider-Man & Black Panther are probably gonna be the new faces of the MCU going forward.
After Avengers 4 in 2019...do you think MCU will still work?
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I never thought it would last this long, and get continuously better, so I will give them the benefit of the doubt.
Lol. If Nolan's Dark Knight couldn't crack it, Marvel have zero chance.
the last 10 threads heralding the end of marvel/CBM's have been far too premature. Even on the old site they were premature. I doubt the peak is even in the horizon right now.
There's no evidence of audience fatigue. In fact, we only have evidence of accelerating audience interest. BP huge. Avengers interest is off the charts.
When will this end? Simple. We need a dud or two. We need a BvsS or Justice League. Then the momentum will stop.
For now, the movies keep getting better and the ticket sales keep rising.
I'm also wondering what will happen to gold/silver/bronze comic values when this happens.
When will this end? Simple. We need a dud or two. We need a BvsS or Justice League. Then the momentum will stop.
For now, the movies keep getting better and the ticket sales keep rising.
I'm also wondering what will happen to gold/silver/bronze comic values when this happens.
As long as they A. Keep the quality strong and B. Keep introducing new and interesting characters and teams I think rumors of any such demise will continue to be greatly exaggerated.
If anything their villains are getting better. Killmonger, Klaw, the Grandmaster. So much better than Malekith or whoever was in Iron Man 3.
If anything their villains are getting better. Killmonger, Klaw, the Grandmaster. So much better than Malekith or whoever was in Iron Man 3.
If the comic books have stayed alive for all these decades then I don't see how the movies can't do the same.
The thing is that they do shit almost perfectly - they're movies that comfort people with their favorite familiar characters and that sells tickets, but getting new characters also sells tickets. People who watch these movies keep wanting more and more of the same, but also not the same. It's weird.
People love Captain America and Iron Man, but Black Panther, Antman and Dr Strange show that they're not the end all be all. Fans are willing to accept new characters.
They can keep this going endlessly if they want I think.
The thing I'm more curious about is if audiences will accept villains coming back years later in the canon. Moviegoers are used to getting different villains every movie or the same villain back to back. Are audiences going to be cool with seeing Ultron or Vulture back 2 or 3 years from now? Or even Thanos 10 years from now?
The thing is that they do shit almost perfectly - they're movies that comfort people with their favorite familiar characters and that sells tickets, but getting new characters also sells tickets. People who watch these movies keep wanting more and more of the same, but also not the same. It's weird.
People love Captain America and Iron Man, but Black Panther, Antman and Dr Strange show that they're not the end all be all. Fans are willing to accept new characters.
They can keep this going endlessly if they want I think.
The thing I'm more curious about is if audiences will accept villains coming back years later in the canon. Moviegoers are used to getting different villains every movie or the same villain back to back. Are audiences going to be cool with seeing Ultron or Vulture back 2 or 3 years from now? Or even Thanos 10 years from now?
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I have photographic proof of this being a thing before Avengers was released in 2012.
Yes. As in "It feels like the comic book fatigue is really kicking in, don't see Avengers being very successful."
Do the majority of people watching these actually pay close attention to the greater story arc of the infinity stones and Thanos? I mean, sure, they're aware of it but that whole thing has been shown thus far just through small cameo scenes and some short dialogue here and there. Thanos has had like what, 5 minutes of total screen time in the entire MCU thus far?
I doubt the larger audience is going to be all, "oh no, that's it with Thanos and the Infinity Stones, I guess there's no point to these movies anymore!" They're just there to see good action flicks with memorable characters, and if Marvel can keep up with that aspect, they'll be fine.
I doubt the larger audience is going to be all, "oh no, that's it with Thanos and the Infinity Stones, I guess there's no point to these movies anymore!" They're just there to see good action flicks with memorable characters, and if Marvel can keep up with that aspect, they'll be fine.
Define work? I don't see why Avengers 4 will stop them from pumping out great movies that are critically received well and do well at the box office. They'll probably start building towards something else after.
However, eventually I guess they'll have a mistep (just playing the odds). Not even Pixar or any other studio has had a run this well.
However, eventually I guess they'll have a mistep (just playing the odds). Not even Pixar or any other studio has had a run this well.
I'm pretty sure the Tesseract wasn't even retconned from a Cosmic Cube to the Space Gem until after the first Avengers movie, around the time Guardians of the Galaxy and Thor 2 started introducing the other Infinity Gems.
So, yeah, I don't think anyone really cares who the Big Bad is that the movies are building up to as long as there's something to wait around for after the credits start rolling.
Are you familiar with Marvel's output over the last god knows how many years?
Assuming the fox deal goes through I'm not sure how the MCU would slow down.
That being said, they've made a phenomenon out of Black Panther recently and I'm not sure why they can't just keep making good movies about characters most people haven't heard of before.
That being said, they've made a phenomenon out of Black Panther recently and I'm not sure why they can't just keep making good movies about characters most people haven't heard of before.
Is it though?
I know box office is skewed with repeat viewings but they hit that Avengers 1 water mark and haven't hit it since. IW looks to obliterate that, but is it really getting that much more popular?
Of course.
They have to keep nailing the casting, continue propping up likable characters, and making enjoyable movies.
I personally might feel a bit of resolve afterwards, but I'm sure they'll find something else interesting to build up to. Maybe mutants.
They have to keep nailing the casting, continue propping up likable characters, and making enjoyable movies.
I personally might feel a bit of resolve afterwards, but I'm sure they'll find something else interesting to build up to. Maybe mutants.
you will have an ending for THESE characters
and then new stories will be told with new characters
I won't lie, of all the "has Marvel Studios finally found the challenge that they can't match?" takes, this one is the least....well, moronic.
They're gonna have a time replacing the stars that got em to the ball, but I have faith they'll be ok. Especially so long as Sony continues to play ball with Spider-Man, and with the Fox properties finally coming home.
They're gonna have a time replacing the stars that got em to the ball, but I have faith they'll be ok. Especially so long as Sony continues to play ball with Spider-Man, and with the Fox properties finally coming home.
People have been saying this for ages. At some point it's inevitably going to be true, but I don't really see why that time is now. If they keep making entertaining films, I'm sure they'll keep being popular. Can anyone think of a series that's maintained as high-a standard as Marvel has and people simply got bored?
I want the Masters of Evil so bad but it's going to be Skrulls I'm sure.
I don't know, truth to be told. If they continue with the big universe and build movies up to a big event, I feel like that could be tiring for people.
After Avengers 4, it might be time for more standalone movies that don't build up to anything. Have a complete arc in one movie and don't build up the next big thing. Smaller, more personal stories like pizza dogs Hawkeye comics. At least I feel, like I don't need the next big hook constantly.
On the other hand avengers 4 might be used to introduce the xmen to the mcu through time stone shenanigans (at least I could imagine) and Doom and Galactus are both good bets for the next big arc.
After Avengers 4, it might be time for more standalone movies that don't build up to anything. Have a complete arc in one movie and don't build up the next big thing. Smaller, more personal stories like pizza dogs Hawkeye comics. At least I feel, like I don't need the next big hook constantly.
On the other hand avengers 4 might be used to introduce the xmen to the mcu through time stone shenanigans (at least I could imagine) and Doom and Galactus are both good bets for the next big arc.
Let's see what they're able to givbe us before we question if the Marvel Universe can continue. I can see Thanos really being a good end to the MCU since that was the end goal once it was realized there was a real potential for a large Comic Book setting being put on the big screen, but there's no reason from a buisiness standpoint that they should stop, nor is there any lack of things that can still be brought from the comics.
T'Challa will take over the Stark role
I already thought that before BP, but after the success of that film it's even more of a certainty
He's gonna be around a lot
I mean they more or less said that they gonna stop with the build up to an event film thing and have more movies where shit just happens and niggas are in other heroes' movies like Ragnarok
The MCU will continue to "work" as long as Kevin Feige is in charge, and long after that if his successor can folllow Feige's plan.
1. Respect the source material.
2. Repeat.
1. Respect the source material.
2. Repeat.
yes, absolutely. You have the youth market who is just getting into the movies, you have the parent market who is looking for movies to take their kids to, and you have guys like me who grew up reading the comics and still can't believe we are getting movies like this. At 42, this is still unreal to me that we get such quality movies based off of comics.
Sure, anyway now.
With Marvel getting the Fox properties back, the sky's the limit for the MCU.
So much material to work with.
We're ten years in and a Black Panther movie crossed the billion dollar mark. If people are getting tired of it, it sure as hell ain't evident.
Exactly, if anything it's that it's not necessary to focus on building up to big ensemble movies anymore. DC already learned that the hard way.
I honestly believe the MCU is going to grow even bigger and show audiences characters and worlds that have been hidden in the obscure world of superhero comics for so long
When I was a kid reading Wizard Magazine, I used to dream about being where we are now; knowing I'd be 24! by the time the Avengers finally get together in a team film. I'm 30 now and Black Panther is one of the biggest superhero in the world. I was obsessed with Marvel as a kid; they have so many character the world will fall in love with, it's insane.
The MCU, like Wakanda, is forever
When I was a kid reading Wizard Magazine, I used to dream about being where we are now; knowing I'd be 24! by the time the Avengers finally get together in a team film. I'm 30 now and Black Panther is one of the biggest superhero in the world. I was obsessed with Marvel as a kid; they have so many character the world will fall in love with, it's insane.
The MCU, like Wakanda, is forever