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After shooting his father in the back, 11 year old tells investigators there will be a part 2 if he doesn’t get a PlayStation, Xbox and a PC
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I'm going to take a wild guess and say that you are not a mental health professional.
I just can't imagine being in a situation like that. I don't know if could look at my son the same way again
I know this might not be a popular thing to say here but, some kids deserve to be spanked. This kid was one of those kids.
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How does the kid re enter normalcy after this adult like plan to kill. Will the parents ever trust him again ?
Yeah go ahead and spank a kid that is already willing to attempt mortal harm on his father for simply taking away his games. That'll fix him right up.
" Two officers were dispatched there Feb. 13 for a welfare check after an 11-year-old called 911. The child reportedly said he had been bad and had been struck by his mother. No report was filed by officers. "
And this is why the Blue Wall is a problem, not just for the general public, but for police officers and their families. Nothing was done when the police learned that one of their own had a child-beating spouse. They are failing that child
And this is why the Blue Wall is a problem, not just for the general public, but for police officers and their families. Nothing was done when the police learned that one of their own had a child-beating spouse. They are failing that child
It's incredibly hard for people to deal with a sociopathic child. Institutional care is incredibly hard to get into, and incredibly expensive. A lot of loving parents with seriously disturbed children end up surrendering their kids to the state because they have no other option, and they usually wait until the behavior escalates to this level because they don't want to lose their child, problems and all.
Society does not set these families up for success.
Society does not set these families up for success.
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Kid probably deserved it.
So? Removing kids like this from the world wouldnt stop shit like this from happening. Making gun violence news about the mental health problems of an 11 year old is fucking stupid.
If anything, that was the thing that messed him up this badly. We already have proof that being spanked as a kid significantly ups the chances of aggressive behaviour and substance abuse.
Pieces of shit who beat up their kids are monsters
The gun was locked away and the kid still got it even though they must have gone hoops to get it. Kid also stunned dog before. If it wasn't a gun, it likely would have been a knife. This isn't a gun control case, even stringent gun controls like we have in the UK wouldn't have stopped this from happening - you don't check the mental health of the children in the house to determine whether a parent can own a gun or not.
You are part of the problem when you say things like this. You are basically saying "child deserves to be abused" while ignoring the fact that abuse likely played a role in his mental illness. It suggests you don't actually care about preventing tragedies like this, you just enjoy the suffering of others.
It's a bit early to assume the kid was abused, kids like this can be raised perfectly normally and lie as well. We shouldn't assume at this stage. But of course we shouldn't be advocating the kid get beat or killed either. Like wtf thread?? Get it together.
Some of y'all need to stop with these parenting hot takes as if it's this black and white thing.
Is there more to that quote because a potential psychopath saying his mother hit him could be entirely manipulative.
This is hand waiving and dismissing the real problem. This is not simply an 11 year old being shitty.
I never understood why people want it to be one or another. It could be both mental illness untreated plus easy access to firearms lead to this.
It's not an assumption, the police were called to the home before for an abuse complaint.
A lot of people in this forum treat things as binary instead of nuanced unfortunately. While guns are a problem, there is a pattern of behavior here that suggests more incidents were going to happen with or without a gun in this case. Access to a firearm lead to the specifics of this incident but the mental health issue should have likely manifested in some other form if guns weren't an option.
I mean you could assume the police were corrupt and just left the child in danger but you could also assume the child lied which is not uncommon in these kind of mental illnesses. You are leaving out that the kid has also abused the dog, has apparently had a number of altercations at his school and went through delibrate loops to get the gun so it wasn't just a moment of anger. He also doesn't seem to regret it and threatened to do it again. I wouldn't say there's proof either way yet.
Damn. Somtimes the only thing standing between you and gaming is a dose of paternal shotgun justice.
I'm gonna take a guess and assume the kid spends the majority of the rest of his life in the prison system.
I'm gonna take a guess and assume the kid spends the majority of the rest of his life in the prison system.
Yeah, once we get into torturing animals it's no longer kids being kids. Who the hell knows what he's capable of.
Not all psychopaths are going to be murderers. Like, psychopathy does not mean a person wants to murder other people. They may have no empathy, no remorse/guilt. They may be sadistic. But that doesn't mean they're necessarily murderous.
Second, this isn't a parent thing (always). For some psychopaths (most, I'd say), they were born with a different brain than your "normal" human. Loving, supportive, wonderful parents probably temper the psychopathy the same way abusive awful parents/circumstances may bring out the crime/etc. But, it's possible for people to be wonderful parents and still have children who act out on their psychopathy.
Would anyone here immediately blame the parents for not loving their children enough if the child commits suicide? Of course not-- we understand depression means something in the brain is wired that way. That doesn't mean that perhaps a person who kills themselves, partially because of an awful home situation, may not have chosen to if they were raised with a lot of love and support. Still, blaming the parents for mental illnesses or abnormalities isn't fair.
Second, this isn't a parent thing (always). For some psychopaths (most, I'd say), they were born with a different brain than your "normal" human. Loving, supportive, wonderful parents probably temper the psychopathy the same way abusive awful parents/circumstances may bring out the crime/etc. But, it's possible for people to be wonderful parents and still have children who act out on their psychopathy.
Would anyone here immediately blame the parents for not loving their children enough if the child commits suicide? Of course not-- we understand depression means something in the brain is wired that way. That doesn't mean that perhaps a person who kills themselves, partially because of an awful home situation, may not have chosen to if they were raised with a lot of love and support. Still, blaming the parents for mental illnesses or abnormalities isn't fair.
This is wrong on so many levels. Ending a life should always be the last resort of any situation. And the parents, state and federal government still have plenty of options left to deal and treat this child.
That's also possible. Seems likely the child has psychopathy but obviously no one here can diagnose that. Talking about putting the kid to death is just disgusting though. Plenty of brain development left, and significant therapy and mental health treatment could rehabilitate this child.
I have a co-worker whose son has a mental condition similar to this. The son is now in his late 30s and living at home with both parents who are in their 60s. The son is mentally similar to a child and will beat up the dad and mom if doesn't get what he wants. They can't afford to place him in a facility, so he is constantly having to fight the son once a week when they have to tell him "no" to anything. The whole idea is down right terrifying, and he is worried about getting older when he will no longer be able to fend him off. They also worry about someone calling the police because they will probably shoot him.
That's a guilty laugh from me. Damnit. Anyway, without knowing what's happened to this kid and his upbringing, it's difficult to understand what brought him to do something like this. Whether he's a victim of abuse, a psychopath, or a combination of both, the parents should have seen the signs of him becoming violent. How does your dog get tazed without anyone noticing? How have his friends and teachers reacted to him at school? There's no way that someone didn't see signs of his aggressive behavior. Just awful all the way around.
I don't think I will use any kind of smacks and punishment stuff on my kids if I have them, but I wouldn't describe a very mild spank as abuse necessarily. It's not intended to inflict harm, it's more of a signifier when behaviour is well beyond unacceptable. It's a potentially useful parenting technique, and well removed from people who have bursts of anger and really do lash out with physical violence (unfortunately common).
This kid seems to show a total lack of remorse, and is intelligent enough to concoct schemes to get his way. It could have been an abusive household, but I don't think we know enough to do anything more than speculate.
He probably already did, and now the kid is responding in kind.
I need to hear the real beginning of this story before judging the kid. His Dad could be a real fuckhead, but that goes unnoticed when we're only being told the last two lines of their story.
[edit] Also the fact he used a gun doesn't matter in this case. He could've focused on using a knife if he knew guns weren't an option.
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I hope he gets the help he needs, but I'll never not get pissed at someone who tazes an animal and shoots their parents over a video game. Who the fuck tazes the family pet? Little shit.
Most modern research agrees that physical discipline of any kind is harmful to children and the poster I was responding to was not referring to light spankings.
I should read up, especially if kids are on the cards. But yeah "little shit deserved a whooping" sounds terribly misguidrd.
