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AI can now do hands (Midjourney V5 launch)
- Thread starter vestan
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Oh brother. Nitpicking these images is so pointless.
"can do hands" with certain rounding errors I guess
Governments COULD move quickly. They choose not to, often. Don't confuse the two.
Pretty much. I'd say way more people than you'd expect have trouble telling out and out photoshops of things aren't real. Stuff like this isn't getting caught by our monkey brains
Maybe they are going off recent TLOU screencaptures
"can do hands" with certain rounding errors I guess
I think focusing on "minor" details here is the most important aspect to take away because it's the only thing that's gonna be able to help discern between real pictures and AI bullshit soon
It very literally still can't as evidenced over and over and over in this thread. Be grateful that it still has a shortcoming because soon enough it won't
It advances so fast, yet somehow they fail to implement the simplest of things: a watermark in each one of this images (and metadata) stating "THIS WAS MADE BY A COMPUTER, IT'S NOT REAL".
That's great that the EU is doing that, and it sucks that NA regulators are asleep behind the wheel. It doesn't really change the fact that we should still be very critical of these companies and the people running them when they do unethical practices.
Regardless, my initial post was wanting to know how the CEO of midjourney sleeps at night
Yes but it's missing the point. The hands where a very early clear tell something was AI created. The less of these early tells exist the easier it will be to mislead the audience. People need to be more vigilant as time goes on but soon AI will just dominate online images because of it's ease of use.
Encrypt it with a UID tied to the account that requested the generation as well so you can uniquely ID whoever provided the prompt.
Creepy and expected. I saw a Macron pic recently, just sitting near some trash and at first I actually thought it was him, lol.
Also, it's funny to see how for some people in Era AI are simulatenously terrible/shitty/can't do proper images and will absolutely take over every job out there. Pick one.
Also, it's funny to see how for some people in Era AI are simulatenously terrible/shitty/can't do proper images and will absolutely take over every job out there. Pick one.
I think the takeaway should not necessarily be "it can do hands!" as the thread title announced, but the fact that it can now do deepfakes that pass quick inspection. (but it can do hands, sometimes)
The last one, holy shit.Some more pics. Hands aren't an instant sign anymore.
Words still are, at least for nowSome more pics. Hands aren't an instant sign anymore.
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Yup. I guess that's what happens when your model is based around comparing images (to put it generously). I reckon it's a significantly harder barrier to get over than hands but one they'll get over nonetheless. Photoshop to the rescue in the meantime?
This makes no sense. You don't have to subscribe to the idea it will improve "ad infinitum" to make a reasonable assumption, based on current progress, that it will solve all problems it needs to in order to be destructive.
The only truly "dangerous" thing is trying to shrug that off simply because we don't want to believe it's true.
There's no legislation for the same reason, 30 years in, the internet is still broadly a wild west. Politicians are broadly technologically incompetent and have absolutely no idea how to deal with this stuff.
But to be honest, it doesn't matter. The genie is out of the bottle. Legal or not you can't take the tech away from the world. The people with malicious intent are still going to use it. Doesn't matter if it's midjourney, DALL-E or their own model built on the same approach.
Digital verification is a lost cause. identifying artifacts are going to be ironed out faster than verification can keep up with. At the end of the day, a pixel is just an RGB value - it isn't real or unreal.
The only solution I'm aware of is education. A drastic overhaul of early schooling to ensure it goes over that every image has to be treated with extreme skepticism and should never be by used as evidence something actually occurred.
View: https://twitter.com/juliewdesign_/status/1636399626004709380?s=20
This is nuts. Going to change a lot for stock image providers
Holy shit.
Since I work at an ad agency and have my own Getty account via my company, I actually received a really extensive survey about a month ago that was all about them using AI generated stock.
Surely it's going to drive them out of business eventually? Why would someone pay for a generic stock image when they can generate a new one?
Era is full of AI chuds salivating at the idea of being called artists without putting it in any work, passion, and the biggest sin of all, ANY creativity whatsoever. Every pic in OP looks like a skinwalker two seconds away from glitching.
It's interesting that this person seems cognizant of the fact that doing this kind of "photography" of BIPoC people without actual BIPoc models is unethical or would get them in trouble. As a result, their feed is just endless stream of white "people"
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Most people I've seen are rightfully decrying the tech for the implications it has on industry and society as a whole. I'll take your word for it though.
The vast majority of actual artists on this website share the opinion of the wider worldwide artist community yes. That doesn't contradict the part where a lot of threads have the usual gaslighting about how this is a good thing or people outright not discussing the implications.
ok but when anime hands. let's be honest.
You can still tell it is AI, because they end up looking at nothing with an empty look. I'm sure that will be fixed in the next version.
You can still tell it is AI, because they end up looking at nothing with an empty look. I'm sure that will be fixed in the next version.
Some more pics. Hands aren't an instant sign anymore.
The AI is vastly improved WRT hands, but pics 1, 3, 5 still have some weirdness with the hands that give away their artificial nature.
Let's be honest, learn to actually draw and you wouldn't have this skill issue.
WTF is going on in his left hand? There's a long thumb and where is the rest? Is the lens of the "Caron" camera broken and his finger going trough it?
Yeah but my anime hand drawings will still end up looking worse than AI somehow. Just want these AI anime wallpapers to look ok. :P
You're right, but the danger is that lots of real photos can have odd angles or lighting in them that create head-scratching elements like this. We have now entered the land of infinite photographic plausible deniability.
If you can draw eyes without an ounce of soul within them you are already doing better than the vast majority of AI. Hands is basic anatomy 101.
Sadly yes and that's how it's going to be for a while.
Fuck AI and fuck AI stans too
there are different kinds of AI models, so perhaps you're conflating people saying that about the AI art models with the language models?
either way, there are several language models and image generators that have gone from meh to being able to output semi plausible stuff (better for ChatGPT) within a couple of years.
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I'm not. I'm pessimistic enough to know that I always see governments waiting too long to make moves in regards to technology. I blame the fact that our leaders used abacuses when they were kids.
Correction, the actual argument is that instead of paying artists to do their job a capitalistic society will continue to do what its already done and steal the work of actual artists in order to produce cheap and fast results and attempt to take that as an opportunity to cut jobs even if the end result looks demonstrably worse at best and inconsistent as fuck so much so that it makes it incredibly apparent that the person producing it doesn't know jackshit about art. While those same companies/chuds simultaneously gaslighting the community by say....pretending that there's an artist shortage...
View: https://twitter.com/BriHardGaming/status/1620780158016983045
Guess what specific brand of idiot will read statements like that and assume that their newfound "skills" at it pertains to typing words will pick up the slack of this...shortage.
One that doesn't exist.
The frustration at this is compounded by the fact that the last two years have been incredibly hostile when it comes to the way artists have been treated. With various show cancellations, entire movies getting made but unreleased, animation studios/teams going through layoffs, etc.
And that's all in spite of the fact that art/animation kept media capitalism going during the worst pandemic of our lifetime. If anyone deserves to be saying "Pick one." It's me, or any working artist who's pissed off about this. And by pick one. I mean pick a pencil.
