If you read his resignation letter it is clear what is happening is highly irregular. This is dangerous at this point.
If this was the case, any losing political party would simply take this strategy to capture power.They can run out the clock and have Congress decide, at which point Trump's chances of being selected to be president greatly increase.
Quite apart from anything else, it's laughable to suggest that such a thing would remain bloodless.Then they'll find "something we can't show", take it to Trump¡s supreme court, and just stay in power. And you get a bloodless auto-coup, which would made Erdogan jelly.
Because he lost the election and by extension will soon be losing those privileges/powers. He can try as much as he wants. There was no voter fraud and he has zero evidence suggesting there is/was, no matter what useless investigations Barr approves.I am worried by this, all these 'checks and balances' haven't stopped Trump from doing what he wants in the past so why would they now?
Yeah I know. Barr is basically attempting a coup right now and is acting as Trump's lawyer. If he find evidence of even small-scale fraud or even just fabricates some then it could give Trump camp everything they need to take it to the SCOTUS and we know how that will go.If you read his resignation letter it is clear what is happening is highly irregular. This is dangerous at this point.
they could arrest all electorsThey can't really stop the electors from casting their vote, can they? All they can do is cast doubt and hope the electors go in a different direction than the popular vote.
Yeah I know. Barr is basically attempting a coup right now and is acting as Trump's lawyer. If he find evidence of even small-scale fraud or even just fabricates some then it could give Trump camp everything they need to take it to the SCOTUS and we know how that will go.
I am officially nervous again.
Dec 8th is safe harbor day. And yes, if they are able to stall the certification past that date, state legislators can chose the electorate.Yeah I´m also growing more anxious every day.
All it theoretically takes is to stall the verification of the results beyond December 14th if I´m not mistaken.
I think that's their strategy. They know exactly that all their claims won't convince any court so they file as many lawsuits as possible to stall everything until December.Yeah I´m also growing more anxious every day.
All it theoretically takes is to stall the verification of the results beyond December 14th if I´m not mistaken.
Somehow delaying state certification past the safe harbor date with this crap seems like the only concivable way it would change the results.
Yeah I know. Barr is basically attempting a coup right now and is acting as Trump's lawyer. If he find evidence of even small-scale fraud or even just fabricates some then it could give Trump camp everything they need to take it to the SCOTUS and we know how that will go.
I am officially nervous again.
And if that happens, and Trump's given the presidency, you might as well just tear up the Constitution because it means fuck all at that point.
What's the point of having elections if someone can just ignore the results and sue their way to a win?
He's doing what we all predicted, but time is running it out.I hope you all are paying very close attention to what's happening here.
Trump is limited.
There's standards.
Stuff like this gives me fuel that this is just more of Trump's BS.
I agree, but the scary thing is at least 40% of the electorate would probably be okay with this.
I swear of yall think Trump can wave a magic wand and become president if he wished it hard enough.
The constitution doesn't place the election of the president in the people's hand. Technically it is up to the representatives. Traditionally, this has been offered to the people to vote. So it is fuckery but could be argued that it is constitutionally sound.And if that happens, and Trump's given the presidency, you might as well just tear up the Constitution because it means fuck all at that point.
What's the point of having elections if someone can just ignore the results and sue their way to a win?
Trump PTSD.I swear some of yall think Trump can wave a magic wand and become president if he wished it hard enough.
He is. But I'm not worried about Trump.I wonder how many times you've called Trump a fascist on this forum...
fam he just needs civil unrest, distrust in the democratic process, and mobilized units of people with weapons to fall in line behind him
this is also the administration that colluded with foreign powers to get in the white house in the first place
we can laugh later, it's a blatant attempt
So what then, are you suggesting will happen? Because so far, they are what, 0-11 in the courts....Wow a Tiktok video saying "they can't do that because of the rules," I'm sure Trump and Barr will abide by this and stop the investigations instead of just ignoring the rules like they always do. Thank you for putting my mind at ease.
Let's not mince words here, we are in the first steps of an attempted coup in the United States
Its generally an overreaction saying he will never get away it or to the other extreme that he is going to murder everyone with the army and take over.I swear some of yall think Trump can wave a magic wand and become president if he wished it hard enough.
Wow a Tiktok video saying "they can't do that because of the rules," I'm sure Trump and Barr will abide by this and stop the investigations instead of just ignoring the rules like they always do. Thank you for putting my mind at ease.
Republicans will slowly get over it as months pass by with no evidence of voter fraud. Y'all being scared of civil war 2/armed violence/race war for like four years now and it still ain't happening, it didn't happen on Election Day, and it won't happen now. Just empty threats and angry message board posts from whitey.Its generally an overreaction saying he will never get away it or to the other extreme that he is going to murder everyone with the army and take over.
That said it is pretty alarming how the Republicans are getting on board with this nonsense.
I don't think this will save Trump. Its probably sum bullshit to pay his election debts. But the temperature is running really hot in the country because of his bullshit and I won't be surprised to see some violence.
Yeah, that's my big concern. The GOP is playing politics while eroding trust in the process. They are scum.Trump will be gone on Jan 20th but republicans who are enabling him right now are doing an insane amount of damage to democracy.
I bet you that next year republicans in the senate will run on 'we refuse to work with an illegitimate president' because that's what their base largely believes in thanks to all this.
This so much. Trump doesn't even know how to spell "coup". This is the natural extension of his arrogance and pettiness.We should take Trump seriously, but he's not all-powerful. To pretend otherwise simply plays into his hands.
There's a federal statute that means December 8 will function as what's known as the "safe harbor" deadline. Occurring about a month after Election Day, December 8th is the deadline for final resolution of all election disputes, including court challenges. It is the final date on which slates of electors must be chosen by states for submission to Congress.
If things aren't settled by then, Congress is under no obligation to accept the validity of electoral votes submitted by states. Instead, the newly-elected Congress will gain legal authority to determine the winner in any state that has not resolved its election drama by the deadline.
I am not worried at all. I seen all the permutations of this topic. I'm good.You do realise that time running out works in Trump's favor?
What Is the Safe Harbor Deadline? | Law & Crime
As states continue to tally election results, and the president's campaign team continues to file more lawsuits, Americans are wondering what effect litigation might have on the outcome of the presidential election. The reality is that an endless loop of lawsuits theoretically has potential to...lawandcrime.com
Doesn't need a magic wand if he has the complacency or support of 70 million Americans alongside Republican leaders as well as the rank and file, has fired the head of the DoD Mark Esper so that he can use the insurrection act to put down upcoming protest with the help of the US military, is using the attorney general Bill Barr as his own personal attorney, and is working on firing the FBI director Wray as well as CIA director Gina Haspell. In addition, Emily W. Murphy, the administrator of the General Services Administration, a Trump sycophant, is refusing to authorize Joe Biden with transition funding. As explained numerous times already, there are ways for him to steal this election, and he has, at the very least, put the machinery into motion.I swear some of yall think Trump can wave a magic wand and become president if he wished it hard enough.
Republicans will slowly get over it as months pass by with no evidence of voter fraud. Y'all being scared of civil war 2/armed violence/race war for like four years now and it still ain't happening, it didn't happen on Election Day, and it won't happen now. Just empty threats and angry message board posts from whitey
Tell you what bro, if trump steals the election im giving you and everyone else here alarmed free permission to drop a huge I TOLD YOU SO WERE FUCKED DM in my inbox after inauguration. But when this doesn't happen just know I'm gonna laugh at the doomsday scenario writing here.Doesn't need a magic wand if he has the complacency or support of 70 million Americans alongside Republican leaders as well as the rank and file, has fired the head of the DoD Mark Esper so that he can use the insurrection act to put down upcoming protest with the help of the US military, is using the attorney general Bill Barr as his own personal attorney, and is working on firing the FBI director Wray as well as CIA director Gina Haspell. In addition, Emily W. Murphy, the administrator of the General Services Administration, a Trump sycophant, is refusing to provide Joe Biden with the authority to begin transition. As explained numerous times already, there are ways for him to steal this election, and he has, at the very least, put the machinery into motion.
If you can't hear the alarm bells, pull your head out of the sand.
Exactly. They put out that statement just to seem tough.Campaigns are entitled to recounts under very specific conditions. In Georgia one of the conditions is if the vote is within 0.5%, so they can legally demand a recount, there is no need for a court order. Under Georgia law, they cannot do a "partial" recount: https://ballotpedia.org/Recount_laws_in_Georgia