This thread is a fascinating way to tell who lives north in south on this country and who actually looks at the romance isle at their local Barnes and Nobles.
I mean she lived in Tennessee from aged 11 so she probably met many of the same types of people.Makes sense, still very strange to me to evoke that period then.
I never said anything about policing artists lyrics.
You also don't evoke the 1830's when you try to awkwardly reference people's rose-tinted view of nostalgia, you evoke a decade that people can actually relate to.
I don't think she wrote the lyrics for people but rather herself so why should she need to evoke a decade people can relate to officer?
She is writing about her personal experiences and sharing them. While she is not writing for herself, she doesn't have to change it to make it "more relatable", which isn't really the point of that lyrics anyway.Because a) she does not just "write the lyrics for herself", that assumption is fully idiotic and b) songwriting works better when people can relate to it, always has. I've been taught ITT that some people can relate to it so it's cool, doesn't mean I have to think she's good at songwriting, especially considering the rest of the song's lyrics are just as bad.
People don't sit around fantasizing about the 2010's though. They want to be isekai'd off to some long gone period and swept off their feet (which is why the following line also makes a point about women being bid off).It's poorly written and shallow( there is no point in time, past present or future where there's not also bad things happening), but I don't know if I'd say it's problematic. At most is it's overly simplistic and comes off as a bit performative. The verse would work a lot better if started off as her fantasizing about the 1830s, then transitioned into acknowledging the horrors of the times. Something like
But your Prince Charming
probably would slaves
And that fancy dress and mansion
Was built by them
And one day you'll have a daughter
Married off to a man twice her age
Ultimately though, it's just a weird choice of time period and the concept would hit a lot harder if it was pointing out the flaws in nostalgia for a time much more recent and relevant to her like 2010. Like being nostalgic for a time when she was younger and early in her career, but remembering gay marriage was still illegal in a lot of the US, we were still in the midst of the war in Iraq, etc.
She is writing about her personal experiences and sharing them. While she is not writing for herself, she doesn't have to change it to make it "more relatable", which isn't really the point of that lyrics anyway.
Because a) she does not just "write the lyrics for herself", that assumption is fully idiotic and b) songwriting works better when people can relate to it, always has. I've been taught ITT that some people can relate to it so it's cool, doesn't mean I have to think she's good at songwriting, especially considering the rest of the song's lyrics are just as bad.
Her entire career is is based on her personal experiences and relationships. She resonates with her fan base so much because of the parasocial relationships that are formed because they feel like they know her on a personal level. They don't like her because "She's just like me!", they like her because they feel a friendship bond with her, imagined or otherwise.
I disagree, many of the best written songs are completely unrelatable. The Thong Song, for example. Or Kid A, completely unrelatable, great songwriting. Or backstreet boys' I Want It That Way. I implore you to tell me what way constitutes "wanting it" in that song. Nonetheless, amazingly written song.Because a) she does not just "write the lyrics for herself", that assumption is fully idiotic and b) songwriting works better when people can relate to it, always has. I've been taught ITT that some people can relate to it so it's cool, doesn't mean I have to think she's good at songwriting, especially considering the rest of the song's lyrics are just as bad.
Media literacy or not, that is some bottom-tier songwriting. You also don't evoke the 1830's when you try to awkwardly reference people's rose-tinted view of nostalgia, you evoke a decade that people can actually relate to. I always felt her music was pretty much made for basic white Americans and she hasn't done anything that would change that opinion tbh.
TIL people who enjoy media like:
Bridgerton, Jane Eyre, Pride and Prejudice, Barry Lyndon.
Are all racist Americans.
I disagree, many of the best written songs are completely unrelatable. The Thong Song, for example. Or Kid A, completely unrelatable, great songwriting. Or backstreet boys' I Want It That Way. I implore you to tell me what way constitutes "wanting it" in that song. Nonetheless, amazingly written song.
Songwriting is an art, and art is not about being relatable. It is about evoking something.
I'm just glad they haven't discovered track 10 yet tbh.Guys I think the bigger issue is she's admitting to killing people and burying them in Florida
Again, the entire song is about how she hates the small town she lives in and retreats to her imagination to escape it.
People in small towns 100% have nostalgia for the Antebellum period that they pass on to their kids. When taken in context of the whole song, her bringing up "the racism and sexism" doesn't ring as her having some idyllic dream of the 1830s, but instead a take that at this entire culture she clearly doesn't like.
I doubt she picked the time period by accident.
I have ancestors that have lived on the Texas/Mexico border for centuries. I have an amazing photograph of a relative on horseback, in full caballero attire, on a random South Texas dirt road and a legit saloon in the background. I'm sure that era was ruthless but it's still not hard for me to romanticize it on some level knowing that a part of me was roaming around all the way back then.
I convinced you, yay :)Yeah because that's exactly what I said :)
The Thong Song and I Want It That Way are definitely some of the best songwriting, yes.
I convinced you, yay :)
"A mulatto, an albino
A mosquito, my libido, yeah"
Relatable af, thanks Kurt Nirvana HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHAT YOUR LIBIDO IS
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