This thread is a fascinating way to tell who lives north in south on this country and who actually looks at the romance isle at their local Barnes and Nobles.
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Attempting to post this as delicately as possible...thoughts on this line in Taylor Swift's new song?
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I mean she lived in Tennessee from aged 11 so she probably met many of the same types of people.
Let me just post this cherry picked, out of context song lyric to try and generate outrage. What the actual fuck is this thread?
I don't think she wrote the lyrics for people but rather herself so why should she need to evoke a decade people can relate to officer?
It's poorly written and shallow( there is no point in time, past present or future where there's not also bad things happening), but I don't know if I'd say it's problematic. At most is it's overly simplistic and comes off as a bit performative. The verse would work a lot better if started off as her fantasizing about the 1830s, then transitioned into acknowledging the horrors of the times. Something like
But your Prince Charming
probably would slaves
And that fancy dress and mansion
Was built by them
And one day you'll have a daughter
Married off to a man twice her age
Ultimately though, it's just a weird choice of time period and the concept would hit a lot harder if it was pointing out the flaws in nostalgia for a time much more recent and relevant to her like 2010. Like being nostalgic for a time when she was younger and early in her career, but remembering gay marriage was still illegal in a lot of the US, we were still in the midst of the war in Iraq, etc.
But your Prince Charming
probably would slaves
And that fancy dress and mansion
Was built by them
And one day you'll have a daughter
Married off to a man twice her age
Ultimately though, it's just a weird choice of time period and the concept would hit a lot harder if it was pointing out the flaws in nostalgia for a time much more recent and relevant to her like 2010. Like being nostalgic for a time when she was younger and early in her career, but remembering gay marriage was still illegal in a lot of the US, we were still in the midst of the war in Iraq, etc.
Because a) she does not just "write the lyrics for herself", that assumption is fully idiotic and b) songwriting works better when people can relate to it, always has. I've been taught ITT that some people can relate to it so it's cool, doesn't mean I have to think she's good at songwriting, especially considering the rest of the song's lyrics are just as bad.
She is writing about her personal experiences and sharing them. While she is not writing for herself, she doesn't have to change it to make it "more relatable", which isn't really the point of that lyrics anyway.
People don't sit around fantasizing about the 2010's though. They want to be isekai'd off to some long gone period and swept off their feet (which is why the following line also makes a point about women being bid off).
If this had been written in the 90's it would probably be the late 1800's prairie life instead.
I can still find it dumb, there's plenty of people that know how to share their personal experiences better.
Her entire career is is based on her personal experiences and relationships. She resonates with her fan base so much because of the parasocial relationships that are formed because they feel like they know her on a personal level. They don't like her because "She's just like me!", they like her because they feel a friendship bond with her, imagined or otherwise.
Wow 😳
Uhhh does anyone else not have a problem with this?? 😳😳
Obviously, otherwise she wouldn't be as big as she is. I personally find the majority just a bit bad and juvenile but that doesn't mean that others can't like it lol.
TIL people who enjoy media like:
Bridgerton, Jane Eyre, Pride and Prejudice, Barry Lyndon.
Are all racist Americans.
She's obviously referencing the romantic period of fancy parties and ball gowns that a bunch of classic romance novels set in the period are still popular today. And in the same sentence is literally saying well yeah except all the obvious bad stuff.
What the heck are we even talking about. If she was like "plantations are so pretty except all of the bad stuff" I'd agree.
I disagree, many of the best written songs are completely unrelatable. The Thong Song, for example. Or Kid A, completely unrelatable, great songwriting. Or backstreet boys' I Want It That Way. I implore you to tell me what way constitutes "wanting it" in that song. Nonetheless, amazingly written song.
Songwriting is an art, and art is not about being relatable. It is about evoking something.
Again, the entire song is about how she hates the small town she lives in and retreats to her imagination to escape it.
People in small towns 100% have nostalgia for the Antebellum period that they pass on to their kids. When taken in context of the whole song, her bringing up "the racism and sexism" doesn't ring as her having some idyllic dream of the 1830s, but instead a take that at this entire culture she clearly doesn't like.
I doubt she picked the time period by accident.
Yeah because that's exactly what I said :)
The Thong Song and I Want It That Way are definitely some of the best songwriting, yes.
I have ancestors that have lived on the Texas/Mexico border for centuries. I have an amazing photograph of a relative on horseback, in full caballero attire, on a random South Texas dirt road and a legit saloon in the background. I'm sure that era was ruthless but it's still not hard for me to romanticize it on some level knowing that a part of me was roaming around all the way back then.
I'm just glad they haven't discovered track 10 yet tbh.
Been already taught about this above by someone else, I'm not American but I love the lyrics now so you can all stop quoting me on this!
I convinced you, yay :)
"A mulatto, an albino
A mosquito, my libido, yeah"
Relatable af, thanks Kurt Nirvana HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHAT YOUR LIBIDO IS
Satanic cult leader Taylor Swift admits to lacing her songs with narcotics to induce addiction!!! Read more:
I am no swiftie but people can't read, can't understand context and are looking for something to get mad at on the internet, so it must be a day ending in Y. This then gets used to dig at her for any reason the Royal you does not like her or because her song or music video scared your cat/
dog/turtle.
The dregs of discourse about her jet is way way WAY elevated compared to this. You have the reading comprehension of a roomba if this makes you legitimately angry lmfao
dog/turtle.
The dregs of discourse about her jet is way way WAY elevated compared to this. You have the reading comprehension of a roomba if this makes you legitimately angry lmfao
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