Wish I wasn't. :/ I mean, a lot of people watching the movie were kids, but those guys weren't.
Avengers: Endgame |Spoiler OT| Let's go get this son of a bitch
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Literally ALL of that is explained in the movie itself. Every change they made in the past created new, alternative timeline, but has zero influence on the original timeline we were all witnessing last 11 years. There's no way to change a past.
That's a good point.
Maybe I was expecting too much. The end credit scene of Infinity War with the beeper, and her overpowered strength shown in her solo movie made me except to see more of her as the main part in beating an overpowered Thanos in Endgame.
"explained"
That's the equivalent of:"please don't think about it."
A Thor + Guardians of the Galaxy team-up sounds great but not if it comes at the expense of a Valkyrie + Thor movie
Did you feel that way when Cap, Iron Man and Thor fought together?
Valkyrie gets to play with other heroines. That fem-Avengers.
Thor + GoTG will be Guardians 3, Thor + Valkyrie will be Thor 4 when Norman Osborn and his Dark Avengers lay Siege to New Asgard.
The scene with Hulk and the Ancient one explains the nature of time as depicted in the MCU and the scene at the end when Cap goes back in time to return the stones and Mjolnir to their original point in time closes the loops.
Presumably he snapped to destroy Thanos and his army which wouldn't include Gamorra since she wasn't really loyal at that point.
How does it ruin watching the previous movies? They didn't travel back in time, they visited other universes. Everything that has happened before has remained untouched.
Nope, not in any kind of way a satisfactory explanation for me. If you are fine with it though, great for you.
If the whole 'you can't change the past' thing because any change will just create another timeline is true then shouldn't Cap have been placed on another timeline when he went back and stayed with Peggy? He should never have made it back to that timeline as old Cap.
No, they did travel through time. That's why they keep calling it TIME TRAVELING in the movie and Hulk explains how TIME TRAVEL works.
Strange bargained for Stark's life in Infinity War and signaled him here at the end that this was the one outcome he saw. Stark knew what he had to do, anything else would have led to failure. I think it was all pretty well conveyed.
Really liked the movie, main issues were with Captain Marvel and how she was added to the movie. Just felt really out of place. Too overpowered for her own good and just an unnecessary overly late addition.
There are two theories on this:
1. He was always Peggy's husband, no change in the timeline. Peggy's husband was never shown or named after all.
2 He stayed with her in yet another alternative timeline and only travelled back to the original one once Peggy died to give the Cap America role to Sam.
Thor is god of thunder he can use thunder without a hammer. Cap with hammer has the power of Thor which is thunder.
He still had the timesuit/time GPS bracelet/pym particles when he went back to the past to return the stones and Mjolnir so the presumption is that he lived out his life with Peggy and returned back to the present to pass on the mantle of Captain America.
But how did he travel back? He did not appear on the time travel platform after all. It think it is pretty clear that he waited and not time traveled as an old man.
So there is a chance we might see her in Guardians 3 ?
I mean, is there a scene at the end when they tease this for example « a screen with her photo and they want to research her » ? I completely forgot that part because of Thor/Quill discussion which was hilarious
Saw this earlier tofay and holy shit what a ride. I need to see this again to take it all in again, the last 40 minutes or so were insane.
I figured she wouldn't come back, but man i'm so bummed that Gamora is gone for good. Poor Quill :(
I figured she wouldn't come back, but man i'm so bummed that Gamora is gone for good. Poor Quill :(
"Gamora" will be in it-but the Gamora we saw in Guardians 1 and 2 and IW is dead.
The Gamora they are looking for now was ripped from the past and doesn't know the Guardians and doesn't love Quill.
This is a common comic book story. As soon as your main characters are in a happy place, it's time to shake things up.
It will be a Search for Spock situation where they find the evil past version of her and reforge their love.
But she's not. Did you leave the movie before the stuff with Quill and Thor?
there is the Gamora that came with Thanos from the past, she most likely was spared from Tony's snap as she sided with the heroes at the end, however she and Quill are stangers again
I just got out of the movie and I'm laughing internally at the people who didn't know there's no post-credits scene
When the inevitable A-Force movie comes out and make a billion, I'll laugh my ass off even more.
Red skull told Hawkeye that the death that occurs there can't be reversed. So how would she come back? I feel like the last part with Quill is just him being hopeful.
Damn-perfect analogy. It's totally The Search for Spock.
She was never killed off (or not anymore).
"past" gamora traveled with "past" thanos to the future. Then she switched sides and fought against her thanos and his armies with "future" nebula (past nebula was killed by future nebula). Quill meet her on the battlefield, but she rejected him and leaves earth. She is out there, she just never experienced anything that happen in Guardians 1 and 2.
I'm talking about the Gamora that was with the Quill during Guardians 1/2 and Infinity War. She's done, dead. Thats what bums be out. I get that past Gamora is roaming the galaxy now but it's not the same.
Of course he was off. He ain't beating Thanos with that mental/physical state he is currently in.
Technically she isn't dead, she just never existed. Just saying!
As said: Time travel stuff...
But yes, our gamora is/was no more
Return of spiderman got the biggest cheer I've ever heard in a cinema.
The Big Thorowski got the most laughs throughout the movie.
The Big Thorowski got the most laughs throughout the movie.
So I just watched it. Fantastic movie, fantastic ending to Tony, beautiful ending to Cap, sad ending to Nat.
Ive been crying since. Goddammit, thank you Russo bros.
Ive been crying since. Goddammit, thank you Russo bros.
She is dead.
Let us make this very clear. What they went through are -> Alternate past universes -> then going back to the Original.
This new Gamora is from another universe who is currently living in their world now.
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