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Batwoman S1 |OT| The Rise of the House of Kane - 8/7c on The CW
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Ok, now THAT was a fucking wacky twist. I'll be interested to hear how the mechanics of this work. I thought the Earth-Prime that Spectre Ollie created was supposed to be more a universe that he birthed and lightly guided from its creation to the present, making it end up similar to the original Earth with National City and Freeland included (and then the Paragons' memory retention and J'onn's powers fill in the gaps), but this makes it seem much more like multiple Earths were literally merged, and that there are at least some serious glitches including doppelgangers sharing a universe.
Episode went from okay to good to great lol.
Hopefully Mary is reconciled with Kate now and can go back to being her charming happy self, because this show is too dark already.
Kate overall actually seemed happier? So that's a positive change in the right direction for this show.
I dig that ending twist, I just hope that Beth doesn't turn out to be Mouse in disguise or some shit.
Hopefully Mary is reconciled with Kate now and can go back to being her charming happy self, because this show is too dark already.
Kate overall actually seemed happier? So that's a positive change in the right direction for this show.
I dig that ending twist, I just hope that Beth doesn't turn out to be Mouse in disguise or some shit.
combined with Supergirl, this definitely seems to be the state of things for some worlds.
Beth at the end looked like the one in the photo that evil Bruce had. I wonder if this is an in universe thing or Ollie fuckery from Crisis.
Alice is the only major villain in the series. Tommy Elliot had potential to be an intimidating villain but he only appeared in one episode.
Top 5 episode of any television series right there. Goodness that was awesome from second one.
I do think they could've done more with Kate and her sister making up. The hug at the end seemed unearned given their last meeting Mary told her off. Maybe I just missed something.
I dunno. I think the episode did a good job of showing all of Mary's options being erased until she had nowhere else to turn.
Episode was decent, I like that Kate is still absolutely awful as a superhero and has to be reminded about secret identity stuff constantly.
That said they could've avoided going for Supergirl tier writing with the teenage girl's "you'll never understand me because of these exact issues you face"
That said they could've avoided going for Supergirl tier writing with the teenage girl's "you'll never understand me because of these exact issues you face"
It's weird how Mary pretty much disowning her mother was forgotten about like an episode or two later.
your mother dying makes past stuff pretty trivial.
Well, Kate did try to take the "mask" off showing that at the very least it isn't Mouse. Going by Supergirl it's more doppelganger stuff.
The diary parts are gone.
For this episode at least. There's one narrated part but it's not addressed to Bruce and feels a little more natural.
For this episode at least. There's one narrated part but it's not addressed to Bruce and feels a little more natural.
Maybe it'll turn out that the paragons had some kind of subconscious input into the new universe. Kate's deepest wish would be for Beth never to have gone missing. Maybe she willed that version of Beth into existence. (The make-a-wish birthday scene shortly before the end feels like it might be pointing at something like that).
Nah. We saw brunette Beth in a completely different location while Alice was busy fucking with Kate at the high school. Unless she's got speedforce powers it wouldn't make sense.
Mouse was parked right outside of the high school campus, yes. But the first time we saw brunette Beth she was going into the Gotham City University building. She also referenced that while talking to Kate - saying how her old apartment got turned into a dorm hall.
Kate does tell Beth "This means my wish came true".
Of course, that then raises further questions about this Beth and her memories. Is she some kind of construct who won't realise she never had a life until she's directly asked about it? Is she a Beth from another Earth? Does she have a whole life of faked memories?
My guess is that it's a Beth from another Earth who just got pulled in during the merge.
They probably can't coexist and will start having shared memories. Eventually they'll merge.
Nah, she was basically over it at the start of the episode.
My guess would be another Beth from another Earth where things went slightly differently. It'd explain why she was talking about what happened to the apartment building and the guy from the office - she thinks that things have changed quickly without anyone telling her, whereas really she's on a different Earth.
She probably has a life of real memories from that Earth of people who now don't exist, like well-adjusted Kate or happy Jacob.
Or Alice will get jealous and try to kill her to take her place.
Maybe even successfully. That'd be an interesting development.
Remember when Earth-2 Laurel took Earth-1 Laurel's place
and learned how to be a lawyer in like a month of studying lmao and not only that she was the DISTRICT ATTORNEY for the whole city. god damn I'm gonna miss Arrow.
To be fair, Star City doesn't have a good track record when it comes to DAs.
Beth is going to kill Alice to protect Kate (and lose her mind in the process).
And then every season they'll introduce a new Beth like Flash does with Wells.
And then every season they'll introduce a new Beth like Flash does with Wells.
Beth merging with Alice to make her somewhat "good" or "sane" again would be fucking awful. I'm hoping she either dies or ends up sent to her universe if it still exists.
The most I'll accept is Beth giving Alice an opportunity to see what things could be like.
The most I'll accept is Beth giving Alice an opportunity to see what things could be like.
Yeah, and Chris Evans earlier. So the Marvel movies also exist in this universe.
Damn. Well that's where their worlds diverged.
And that reminds me, Beth still doesn't know Alice exists here yet, not good.
Creepy Alice being creepy.
Nicely done Luke.
And that reminds me, Beth still doesn't know Alice exists here yet, not good.
Creepy Alice being creepy.
Nicely done Luke.