Gotta tell ya. ERA, never fails when it comes to some members completely missing the forest for the trees here.
Not only do I find this very ironic, but if you aren't going to engage with people's arguments this just smells like defeat.
Gotta tell ya. ERA, never fails when it comes to some members completely missing the forest for the trees here.
You may wish to read the article and see all the dumb offensive bullshit that is being argued by this organization, of which Cohen is happily the largest funder. He may personally state a bland pro-diplomancy, anti-military funding position, but the people he's financially supporting are arguing much more specific nonsense that wants kowtow to Russian interests and let the Ukrainian people rot.I mean frankly guys at the end of the day the basis of this thread is people bringing up that Ben Cohen had the ABSOLUTE FUCKING NERVE to suggest that the US be more active in leading a diplomatic solution.
I mean the entire premise of this thread is constructing a straw man against Cohen.
If you haven't realized that I don't know what to tell you, my guy.
It's pretty telling that if the situation were changed to the US invading Mexico, claiming the land was always ours, these same people would have a conniption and suddenly peace would be entirely at the mercy of the US. then if you have people telling other countries that they can't support Mexico's self-defense because it isn't promoting peace, they would be rightfully denounced as kooks.You still dodging the question what ceasefire and peace even means and what are Ukraine going to do without weapons in the meanwhile? Russia is commiting genocide and war crimes all over ukraine with or without weapons. Peace and ceasefire are also terms Ukraine has to accept as is their decision and right and they've said nothing less than taking back all territories are necessary for peace to begin. This war can stop just as easily stop the moment russia gets the fuck out of Ukraine. They're the ones invading.
OOOOOOH so we're worried about escalation!
Gee whiz you guys, who could possibly foresee the possibility that continued military intervention in Ukraine brings about the dangers of escalation?
Man. It's a shame there's no one, possibly even in good faith following a lifetime of activism against ethnic cleansing and war is speaking out in favor of finding a way to end this peacefully! Nah, but the only people who could possibly bring that up must clearly be solely on the side of Russia.
Fucking tankies, amirite you guys?
Genuine question here: do you mean tankies or all leftists? You seem to be really mad at the entire left movement in general over your posts, so it made me wonder and I'd appreciate you clarifying. It's quite a broad movement, with many including myself, fucking despising tankies.Its adorable how butthurt the Horseshoe Theory makes online leftists.
Especially when it makes people like come into this thread whining about instead of actually reading the disgusting shit leftists are posting in here.
This is why leftists in most western countries are rightly seen as a fucking joke
Genuine question here: do you mean tankies or all leftists? You seem to be really mad at the entire left movement in general over your posts, so it made me wonder and I'd appreciate you clarifying. It's quite a broad movement, with many including myself, fucking despising tankies.
Fair enough. Thanks for clarifying!I mean Tankies. But any online leftist group that entertains them and doesn't call them out isn't helping their case.
I've sadly seen plenty of leftists out there who do not seem to agree with Tankies at all yet seem content to tolerate their crap.
I still remember they tried the same shit in the ukraine thread at the beginning but mods started banning them when they went on with their usual bs which caused them to stop it in the OT.Once again, I find it hilarious that tankies unable to post in the official Ukraine thread are instead posting their misinformed takes on a thread about a fucking ice cream mogul.
yeeeep some people can't resist the urge to show their assesOnce again, I find it hilarious that tankies unable to post in the official Ukraine thread are instead posting their misinformed takes on a thread about a fucking ice cream mogul.
Another reminder that rich != well informed.Why are people mollycoddling a guy giving millions of dollars to an organization that wants to stop giving weapons to Ukraine?
He isn't naive, he is a jackass.
He isn't a college freshmamn that just read Horward Zinn for the first time. He is a smart business man giving a million dollars to an organization spouting Kremlin talking points.
If you're going to troll at least put effort into it.if you think it's not America's job to kill bad guys and arm good guys you're incredibly naive and a tankie you have no rizz. before you open your dumb fucking mouths again, take time to read more literature on the subject (the official ukraine war thread on resetera)
Being a passive aggressive troll that supports genocide doesn't make you clever.i did a vibecheck using the information you make public to other users and I can tell you're a pacifist like me who doesn't fetishize war and suffering at all
i did a vibecheck using the information you make public to other users and I can tell you're a pacifist like me who doesn't fetishize war and suffering at all
Russia already kidnapped thousands of children to turn them into Russians. They are also eradicating Ukrainian culture in all their annexed territories, because they don't belive in exsitence of Ukraine.
.In occupied areas Russians are burning Ukrainian books, banning the teachings of its language and history and committing systematic killings of anyone who they suspect to be pro-Ukraine, and have forced adoption of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian children to relocate them in Russia.
If Ukraine stops fighting it will cease to exist
I mean if you think about it, it's always beneficial to just let the violent authoritative aggressor, who sees no limit to their borders, and views other ethnicities as inferior, just take its neighboring countries. When the world let Nazi Germany take Poland the war ended early and no one was hurt. Everyone knows this. Dummies.
I completely agree. I meant that there's a cult of poor wealth worshipers that say this kind of thing must be right because how could a rich person also be wrong.Oh I know, but that's not to say he shouldn't be coddled, either. If you are giving a million bucks to something, I am assuming you at least looked at it.
Its adorable how butthurt the Horseshoe Theory makes online leftists.
Especially when it makes people like come into this thread whining about instead of actually reading the disgusting shit leftists are posting in here.
This is why leftists in most western countries are rightly seen as a fucking joke
Man, as if I didn't feel bad already for having Churray for Churros! for breakfast...
It's a new oneIs... is that a favor?
I've been enjoying the Talenti Gelato Salted Chocolate Churro that tastes kinda like Cinnamon Toast Crunch had icecream with some okay chocolate added.
"I just want peace, and I don't care how many dead Ukrainians it takes to get there."
Summed up his thoughts for him.
I fucking hate these cowards that don't get that Russia is the bad guy in this situation and that the ENTIRE WORLD can't let Russia take Ukraine.
This should be used as an example of what happens if a country tries to conquer another, instead of just letting them win.
I fucking hate "leftists/progressives" like this.
Is that not the first one up there? Right at 92Even that picture is missing the start: the Russian occupation of Moldova's Transnistria region, which they've been occupying for over 3 decades.
Abkhazia is in Georgia. Russia supported separatists there in 1992-1993 and then fully invaded the region and other Georgian territories in 2008.
I am aware, but above that it has TransnistriaAbkhazia is in Georgia. Russia supported separatists there in 1992-1993 and then fully invaded the region and other Georgian territories in 2008.
Lol my bad, I didn't see the Transnistria part of the image because the embed doesn't show it.I am aware, but above that it has Transnistria
1992: Russia occupied Transnistria
We are talking about this tweet, right?