ah yeah that makes sense then, for a moment I wondered if I was imagining that being thereLol my bad, I didn't see the Transnistria part of the image because the embed doesn't show it.
ah yeah that makes sense then, for a moment I wondered if I was imagining that being thereLol my bad, I didn't see the Transnistria part of the image because the embed doesn't show it.
Oof the top reply to this post is spot on when it comes to the topic of this thread
View: https://twitter.com/m_solosh/status/1638151759313895433?s=20
Please define it for us
wanna enlighten us then?
Tankies defend authoritarian socialist states. This guy thinks "the U.S. should use its power to negotiate an end to the war, not prolong the death and destruction by supplying more weapons".
Yeah it's Lula with a dumb Nintendo hat, as communist as one gets.
There's no negotiating though? The negotiation is for Russia to just leave, they keep prolonging the conflict.Tankies defend authoritarian socialist states. This guy thinks "the U.S. should use its power to negotiate an end to the war, not prolong the death and destruction by supplying more weapons".
Yeah it's Lula with a dumb Nintendo hat, as communist as one gets.
We already tried diplomacy and negociations, but you can't negociate with people like Putin.Tankies defend authoritarian socialist states. This guy thinks "the U.S. should use its power to negotiate an end to the war, not prolong the death and destruction by supplying more weapons".
Yeah it's Lula with a dumb Nintendo hat, as communist as one gets.
There's no negotiating though? The negotiation is for Russia to just leave, they keep prolonging the conflict.
I get it, I'm quoting what Ben Cohen said verbatim. Still doesn't make him a tankie, that's my original point.We already tried diplomacy and negociations, but you can't negociate with people like Putin.
not only. tankies also have a historical loyalty to modern kremlin that they support blindly as a connection to the past. there are entire left parties in europe and across the world that kiss russia's ass because of this, and because they see the kremlin as anti-westTankies defend authoritarian socialist states. This guy thinks "the U.S. should use its power to negotiate an end to the war, not prolong the death and destruction by supplying more weapons".
Yeah it's Lula with a dumb Nintendo hat, as communist as one gets.
The thing is people on the north hemisphere will always have some trouble understanding the South's stance on some issues, especially war. Our country's foreign policy is based on non-intervention, self-determination, international cooperation and the peaceful settlement of conflicts as guiding principles. Brazil as a geopolitical power has always been a neutral player.That piece of shit in your avatar literally blamed Ukraine for the war, said it's their fault they got invaded, which is what almost all these far-left and left politicians and parties in Europe say as well. It's because they still see the Kremlin in the socialist/communist historical lense/connection
And sometimes you have to realize that you can't always peacefully settle conflicts and neutrality is nothing more than silently siding with the agressor.The thing is people on the north hemisphere will always have some trouble understanding the South's stance on some issues, especially war. Our country's foreign policy is based on non-intervention, self-determination, international cooperation and the peaceful settlement of conflicts as guiding principles. Brazil as a geopolitical power has always been a neutral player.
🤡"This guy is as responsible as Putin for the war. Because in the war, there's not just one person guilty," he added.
What Lula said and his position is definitely not neutral though, it's by far pro-Kremlin whether actively or by effect, his approach to this situation would be more neutral if he shut up and him and his diplomats not be involved at all. The ceasefire stuff they were pushing in February was also extremely stupid, a ceasefire which would only aid Russia in the current state of a war, you don't call for a ceasefire in this state when a country is defending against a foreign invader and the invading army would benefit from a ceasefire where they can regroup and ease supply/production efforts back in Russia. This isn't a civil war or similar conflict, Ukraine isn't even fighting in Russia or has any interest in taking the war beyond their borders, so ceasefire is complete nonsense and a 100% aid to russia. That's not neutral diplomacyThe thing is people on the north hemisphere will always have some trouble understanding the South's stance on some issues, especially war. Our country's foreign policy is based on non-intervention, self-determination, international cooperation and the peaceful settlement of conflicts as guiding principles. Brazil as a geopolitical power has always been a neutral player.
Tankies defend authoritarian socialist states. This guy thinks "the U.S. should use its power to negotiate an end to the war, not prolong the death and destruction by supplying more weapons".
Just gonna quote this post again, no particular reason.These threads really do bring out the worst.
Like...if you get offended by the word 'tankie' being used 'correctly' or 'incorrectly' then chances are you're a fucking tankie and I don't really care what you think.
"The bottom line is: It's done. They are against a mad man and his ego—he will not lose. Whether we like it or not, we have to give Putin something."
It's not trouble understanding. Your leader has an absolutely shit take on the war and exposed himself as a clown when it comes to it. Ukraine being invaded isn't any of these:The thing is people on the north hemisphere will always have some trouble understanding the South's stance on some issues, especially war. Our country's foreign policy is based on non-intervention, self-determination, international cooperation and the peaceful settlement of conflicts as guiding principles. Brazil as a geopolitical power has always been a neutral player.
Then what does that make him? An idiot?I get it, I'm quoting what Ben Cohen said verbatim. Still doesn't make him a tankie, that's my original point.
So let's put it in perspective:The thing is people on the north hemisphere will always have some trouble understanding the South's stance on some issues, especially war. Our country's foreign policy is based on non-intervention, self-determination, international cooperation and the peaceful settlement of conflicts as guiding principles. Brazil as a geopolitical power has always been a neutral player.
Why is anyone even talking about "negotiations", Cohen and his organization just want to give Ukraine to Putin on a silver platter.
They are like the very definition of a piece of shit tankie.
Let's say, you had a much larger neighboring country that decided they wanted to invade and take yours one day. They attempt to achieve this by blowing up your cities and raping/executing your people. The further they advance into your country, the more cities they level, and the more people they genocide.The thing is people on the north hemisphere will always have some trouble understanding the South's stance on some issues, especially war. Our country's foreign policy is based on non-intervention, self-determination, international cooperation and the peaceful settlement of conflicts as guiding principles. Brazil as a geopolitical power has always been a neutral player.
The thing is people on the north hemisphere will always have some trouble understanding the South's stance on some issues, especially war. Our country's foreign policy is based on non-intervention, self-determination, international cooperation and the peaceful settlement of conflicts as guiding principles. Brazil as a geopolitical power has always been a neutral player.
Something that your leader should have realized: shutting up is free.The thing is people on the north hemisphere will always have some trouble understanding the South's stance on some issues, especially war. Our country's foreign policy is based on non-intervention, self-determination, international cooperation and the peaceful settlement of conflicts as guiding principles. Brazil as a geopolitical power has always been a neutral player.
He gave an award to Aaron Mate lolTankies defend authoritarian socialist states. This guy thinks "the U.S. should use its power to negotiate an end to the war, not prolong the death and destruction by supplying more weapons".
Brazil's Lula says Zelenskiy 'as responsible as Putin' for Ukraine war
Former Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva said Russia never should have invaded Ukraine, but he believes Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy is as much to blame for the war as Russian leader Vladimir Putin.www.reuters.com
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being neutral in a war of aggression is taking the side of the aggressor. And I say that as a citizen of a country that sadly also still deludes itself into neutrality being anything moreThe thing is people on the north hemisphere will always have some trouble understanding the South's stance on some issues, especially war. Our country's foreign policy is based on non-intervention, self-determination, international cooperation and the peaceful settlement of conflicts as guiding principles. Brazil as a geopolitical power has always been a neutral player.
Why is anyone even talking about "negotiations", Cohen and his organization just want to give Ukraine to Putin on a silver platter.
They are like the very definition of a piece of shit tankie.
"The bottom line is: It's done. They are against a mad man and his ego—he will not lose. Whether we like it or not, we have to give Putin something."
Hmm. The argument seems to be that the support should shift from military assets to diplomatic assets. I'm not an expert on war/diplomacy in times of war so i can't comment on this, but the argument doesn't seem to be dropping support to leave Ukraine fending for itself.
And a lot of non interventionist, we spend too much logic that is a bit suspect but this seems like it's anti war and anti war participation first and foremost. But that's from reading just this article.
I'd like to know why so many posters are saying that he supports Russia.
nah don't you see, it is cleary something someone from the northern hemisphere could never understand, much deeper than thatthe idea that Brazil's "neutrality" is about anything other than maintaining ties with a friendly power that isn't of any particular threat to them personally is an absolute joke. the global south just like the north are rational actors who act primarily based on what they see as their own self interest. Morality only comes into play once self interest is not in play in a decision. the only difference is the relative power dynamics and histories that shape what they see as self interest, but no country on earth is making these decisions out of pure altruism
yep and Brasil is part of BRICS, also why South Africa allowed Russian military ships to moor and do exercises with them, let a oligarch yacht in, etc, and same going on with China and their relationship with Russia, also in BRICS. Same with India's stance on the war too.. All BRICS countries, and all those countries are extremely corrupt, nothing coming from them regarding this conflict can ever be taken in good faiththe idea that Brazil's "neutrality" is about anything other than maintaining ties with a friendly power that isn't of any particular threat to them personally is an absolute joke. the global south just like the north are rational actors who act primarily based on what they see as their own self interest. Morality only comes into play once self interest is not in play in a decision. the only difference is the relative power dynamics and histories that shape what they see as self interest, but no country on earth is making these decisions out of pure altruism
yep and Brasil is part of BRICS, also why South Africa allowed Russian military ships to moor and do exercises with them, let a oligarch yacht in, etc, and same going on with China and their relationship with Russia, also in BRICS. Same with India's stance on the war too.. All BRICS countries
Yeah, it tracks damn well. The Baltics tend to get tankies mad af.The notion that some of the tankies or whatever they are called actually low-key loathe former USSR states for the fall of USSR tracks quite a bit imo
Like it makes more intuitive sense to me than mere indifference in some cases.
But then why don't they hate Russia most of all? I suppose the theory is that Russia is still secretly the USSR, whereas other former USSR states betrayed the USSR. Not sure how that works but I'm sure someone can explain it to us.The notion that some of the tankies or whatever they are called actually low-key loathe former USSR states for the fall of USSR tracks quite a bit imo