hint: the bots will support every candidate because they just want to sow discordIt's interesting to look and see which candidates the bots support.
hint: the bots will support every candidate because they just want to sow discordIt's interesting to look and see which candidates the bots support.
I fail to see how. He's done about all that he can as an Independent operating outside of the democratic party made bad bills less bad and good bills better. Many value thay over prolifically stamping your name on a bunch of problematic and awful legislation.
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I fail to see how. He's done about all that he can as an Independent operating outside of the democratic party made bad bills less bad and good bills better. Many value thay over prolifically stamping your name on a bunch of problematic and awful legislation.
Painting that as a negative means you fundamentally misunderstand Bernies support. People want someone to change Washington, not someone neck deep in making it what it is.
An article about why he is supported in spite of his gaffes on race, problematic associations, and troubling legislative history bolsters neither your original point that this endorsement is the death knell of bernie in the south, nor that Bernies legislative history are problems.‘I know Joe’s heart’: Why black voters are backing Joe Biden
After Kamala Harris challenged Joe Biden’s past opposition to school busing in a nationally televised Democratic presidential debate, the former vice president who prides himself on strong relationships in the black community was in an unfamiliar place, playing defense on race.apnews.com
Personally not since I left the military (Though I think that's more myself and my wife's own lack of desire to get to know people) but I would agree this fits the mold that Kirblar argued earlier because while small, they do have are small community of people that'll will help each other out whenever something bad happens financially. Below is what Kirblar wrote.Don't know any Christians? It's the defacto alignment among the majority of black church goers, for example.
Leftists who are "anti-identity politics". That's who that is in the context of this discussion. Economics does not cause bigotry. Bigotry causes bigotry. They are two very separate things. If you don't understand how this combo is possible - it's simple, they want economic support for themselves or their in-group and either don't care if it's denied to others or people outside that group, or actively want that to happen.
Dude, you clearly didn't read the article and that's ok, because Bernie doesn't care either lol.An article about why he is supported in spite of his gaffes on race, problematic associations, and troubling legislative history bolsters neither your original point that this endorsement is the death knell of bernie in the south, nor that Bernies legislative history are problems.
Everyone knows Joe is currently leading amongst AA voters. Duh.
Yang isn't exactly doing badly for a complete upstart who isn't on the debate stage, and isn't really viable so not really comparable.
Who says that Hillary voters and capitalists aren't welcome? Of course they are we just won't compromise on our values for them, just as we wouldn't for Joe Rogan or his fans.
I'm guessing his problem with your statement is that it was a low effort generalization that serves absolutely zero purpose other than to demonstrate "look how woke I am as a straight white man!". It's weak.Seeings how I'm a straight white cis-man do you have a problem with me identifying the problem within my own cohort?
I did in fact read the article. It details the long time and personal relationships Joe has built in the community, combined with his electability argument explain the durability thus far of Bidens AA support.Dude, you clearly didn't read the article and that's ok, because Bernie doesn't care either lol.
I mean he hasn't done shit in Congress. That's the same reason why he has to go back to the 60s when asked about what he's done for black people.
Wait what? Is there something I don't know about? Please let me know.Ah yes, posting a youtube video from a human trafficker to make a point.
I don't know his politics. All I know is I used to listen to his podcast when I was interested in the guests, but then he started defending the actions of guys like Gavin, and it became clear that he may not be a right wing zealot, but he's most definitely a dangerous moron. There's enough podcasts to listen to that I no longer needed to contribute to his numbers.I need some education here. Is Rogan guilty by association or did he actually have some bigoted actions?
Stuff like this just tells me he is a centrist but I don't know anything besides what gets huge news when it comes to rogans podcast.
The larger context of it was that you have to work across the aisle with people you don't like, people who you don't agree with," she said. "I do it each and every day as mayor of Atlanta in a red state."I did in fact read the article. It details the long time and personal relationships Joe has built in the community, combined with his electability argument explain the durability thus far of Bidens AA support.
This doesn't really speak to either of the points you made in the posts I replied to.
Im saying he didnt rSo why are most AA voters not voting for Bernie?? And why does Biden have 30% of the youth black vote??
I mean a single sentence from the article isn't exactly the premise of the entire thing. If that was all you wanted taken from the article you can quote it. Again doesn't speak to why this endorsement would be what sinks Bernie in the south.The larger context of it was that you have to work across the aisle with people you don't like, people who you don't agree with," she said. "I do it each and every day as mayor of Atlanta in a red state."
I'm not going to even comment on the Joe Rogan shit, but I am going to respond to this, because it's a flat out myth that nonetheless keeps being circulated.
Read this entire twitter chain, and then say that again with a straight face. There is a reason Bernie has been lovingly referred to as "the amendment king" for a long while.
I'm guessing his problem with your statement is that it was a low effort generalization that serves absolutely zero purpose other than to demonstrate "look how woke I am as a straight white man!". It's weak.
Black people have general lack of trust in Bernie for a multitude of reasons. If you can't make the connection with this thread then I don't know what to tell you.Im saying he didnt r
I mean a single sentence from the article isn't exactly the premise of the entire thing. If that was all you wanted taken from the article you can quote it. Again doesn't speak to why this endorsement would be what sinks Bernie in the south.
Great people running that campaign, I see.
See this is interesting because ostensibly it makes sense but it really does seem like the big tent is only really open for people who disagree on social issues
You don't need political enemies when your campaign is somehow repeatedly close to pieces of shit like these guys, keep not seeing the problem, how it looks, who you're fucking over. The matter is absolutely magnified by online busybodies telling everyone to shut up.Trying to be generous to the concerted effort. I recognize that Bernie's oppo closet is effectively empty by this point, necessitating concern trolling like the Rogan endorsement. It's the Cenk Uygur thing all over again and will be forgotten about as quickly.
I mean it would be smart to emphasize any such endorsements he got. Point well taken. I wouldn't mind him touting Peter Daou for example. People that support him despite in some cases disagreeing with his message and who he didn't pander to to get. Problem is there aren't too many.Yang is doing just as well as Steyer, which is not good at all. Either Rogan's audience is big enough to make a difference or it isn't. It also clearly did nothing for Tulsi, who is Rogan's second favorite Democrat and has appeared on his show three times.
Viability isn't the issue. It certainly isn't something non voters prioritize.
Nobody says it outright, but this thread is filled with people who are being far kinder to Rogan's audience than they ever were to moderate Democrats.
I mentioned Hillary Clinton primary voters in particular because Bernie is not doing so well with them. They were a sizable portion of Democratic voters. If Bernie paying a bit of lip service to Rogan doesn't compromise his values, why couldn't he have done the same thing to bring a few of those people over? Obviously that's not going to happen now given Hillary's recent comments, but he could have tried long before going for Rogan's audience.
Joe Rogan is an actual bigot.I need some education here. Is Rogan guilty by association or did he actually have some bigoted actions?
Stuff like this just tells me he is a centrist but I don't know anything besides what gets huge news when it comes to rogans podcast.
I never disagreed with that. I only responded to your two, specific points. If your point was actually Joe Biden continues at this time to lead among AA voters I would again say, duh.Black people have general lack of trust in Bernie for a multitude of reasons. If you can't make the connection with this thread then I don't know what to tell you.
That's my point about this endorsement and it's not just older black people. Biden still has 30% of the youth black vote.I never disagreed with that. I only responded to your two, specific points. If your point was actually Joe Biden continues at this time to lead among AA voters I would again say, duh.
I would however point out his favorability with African Americans is actually quite good, and his support is higher than anyone but Joe's. This isn't a unique crticism or Bernie, it's older African Americans sticking with the guy they've known forever for the time being.
A credulous, largely apolitical chud and a socialist can agree that the world isn't working as it should, and that someone is to blame. The former can come to identify the proper bad actors (capital) with the help of the latter, or they can choose to blame women or Jewish people or whoever if they remain in their bubble forever (say, by never seeing Bernie spell this out explicitly on their favorite podcast...)Nobody says it outright, but this thread is filled with people who are being far kinder to Rogan's audience than they ever were to moderate Democrats.
I will take Rogan over literally any ghoul openly endorsing Biden.You don't need political enemies when your campaign is somehow repeatedly close to pieces of shit like these guys, keep not seeing the problem, how it looks, who you're fucking over. The matter is absolutely magnified by online busybodies telling everyone to shut up.
I've been extremely online for a few years now and this is the first time I'm getting introduced to socially conservative and economically 'left' and I honestly have no idea what the heck that is.
Biden was close friends with segregationist Strom Thurmond lolY'all would defend Bernie Sanders hanging out with David Duke if you thought it got him closer to winning this primary.
So you'd rather have a racist than anyone who supports Biden purely because they support Biden??? That says a lot about you.A credulous, largely apolitical chud and a socialist can agree that the world isn't working as it should, and that someone is to blame. The former can come to identify the proper bad actors (capital) with the help of the latter, or they can choose to blame women or Jewish people or whoever if they remain in their bubble forever (say, by never seeing Bernie spell this out explicitly on their favorite podcast...)
A liberal will not concede that the world is broken. They might believe the wrong people are in charge, but that will never extend beyond a change in management. To them we are at the "end of history" and just need to vote for the right people within the current societal framework and somehow all of our needs will be looked after. These people are terribly difficult, if not impossible to move towards positions of empathy because nothing is wrong and nothing is anyone's fault. It just is.
Hillary Clinton is a TERF, btw
I will take Rogan over literally any ghoul openly endorsing Biden.
Y'all would defend Bernie Sanders hanging out with David Duke if you thought it got him closer to winning this primary.
What does it say? Biden was himself a segregationist btwSo you'd rather have a racist than anyone who supports Biden purely because they support Biden??? That says a lot about you
Joe Rogan literally called black people apes.
So you're calling the mayor of Atlanta, a black woman, a ghoul, and saying that you'd rather have Rogan (a man who has called us apes) endorsement than her's just because she backs Biden?
That 100% illustrates the issue some people ITT have. You're all so glued to the economic axis that you're willing to do backflips to defend or ignore planet of the apes.I will take Rogan over literally any ghoul openly endorsing Biden.
I've been extremely online for a few years now and this is the first time I'm getting introduced to socially conservative and economically 'left' and I honestly have no idea what the heck that is.
It's what the other side does, so if you want to win you gotta do the same. Republicans will welcome anyone and everyone as long as they vote, and then fuck them over after the fact (sorry farmers and steel workers!). Just get their votes. But Liberals know that. They've been doing it to minorities for ages.30% of the country endorses a fascist and 40% of the country is too ambivalent to do anything about it. Shit sucks, but they need at least some of those people to win the election.
It's what the other side does, so if you want to win you gotta do the same. Republicans will welcome anyone and everyone as long as they vote, and then fuck them over after the fact (sorry farmers and steel workers!). Just get their votes. But Liberals know that. They've been doing it to minorities for ages.
An article about why he is supported in spite of his gaffes on race, problematic associations, and troubling legislative history bolsters neither your original point that this endorsement is the death knell of bernie in the south, nor that Bernies legislative history are problems.
Everyone knows Joe is currently leading amongst AA voters. Duh.
Richard Spencer could lend an endorsement at this point and it wouldn't be a conflict of interest.
I don't think I said that. I have a candidate I'd like to see get the nomination, but if they don't I'm 100 percent voting for whoever does oppose Trump because ultimately what matters most is judicial appointments. It's why so many (almost all) Republicans suddenly became cool with Trump.Then we better just give up and let Trump destroy the country.
I don't know why this is difficult to understand. If it still results in the elimination of existing capitalist structurees, then yes, I'll be nice to the capitalists.Ok but you can't ever criticize the capitalist for their capitalism, that's your rules.
You literally said don;t criticize Rogan for his bigotry because then his listeners will be turned off... So I expect you not to criticize capitalists for their capitalism.
Your rules.