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Bethesda May Not Release 'The Elder Scrolls: Legends' On Systems That Don't Allow Crossplay
- Thread starter DriftingSpirit
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More developers need to drag the industry into the future. Kicking and screaming if need be. Growing pains are inevitable. Ultimately it's for the best to let players play together.
I don't get this line of thinking. Why would you NOT want to publish on the console with the biggest player base just to make a point (if that's their actual intention).
That's just shitty business sense.
That's just shitty business sense.
That's a bold assertion. None of those PS4 owners have a PC? A Switch? A phone? An Xbox?
It might be "just a card game" but Bethesda is starting to work in a crossplay/crossprogression environment. When the day comes where crossplay/progression is the norm, Sony better make it very easy to develop for, otherwise companies will have difficulties getting crossplay to work correctly in the beginning.
This seems like wild speculation at best. Lot's of publishers choose to not release games on certain platforms for a wide variety of reasons. It doesn't normally result in a platform holder telling them to 'go fuck themselves'. The platform not supporting a core feature of the game is absolutely valid reason for a game not to release there. It's why SUPERHOT VR isn't on Xbox One and why Kinect Party didn't release on PS3. The difference is, I guess, that it's not a hardware/technical hurdle. It's a policy. But Bethesda is just saying, that's fine, we will only release The Elder Scrolls Legends on platforms that support full cross progression/cross play. There's no need to make a 'slippery slope' argument or pretend that Bethesda are gonna withhold any of their single player games from the platform. They're not saying that at all.
Good for Bethesda but I doubt Sony cares. I also highly doubt they would actually go through with not putting it on there anyway.
It's well within their rights to withhold the game from PS4, but doing so would be just as anti-consumer to those looking forward to it if the game is already ready to go and announced for it and they pull the plug for this reason. Crossplay/progression may be their vision but it's not like the game literally cannot function if a version has its own (potentially large) separate ecosystem.
Came in here to say the same thing. TES Legends? That's not going to change anything. Fallout '76? Crossplay would be implemented tomorrow.
at this point sony must realize that cross play is the future, but i think they're just keeping it to announce it at ps5 reveal and have people applaud as if they invented it.
Either you're missing the point, still not reading the OP and making assumptions, or being intentionally ignorant to downplay Sony's ant-consumer stance on cross play and cross progression.
It is important to the dev team that cross progression work between all platforms for The Elder Scrolls Legends. This way you can use one account and all of the cards you have on every platform. Sony will not allow this with Xbox and Switch, which the game is also coming out on. Since their stance on cross play and cross progression is so convoluted this will lock players out of playing on Xbox and Switch (and maybe other platforms in the future if Sony wants). Because they're the only platform which takes this convoluted stance on cross progression Bethesda might not even bother releasing it on PS4. Bethesda obviously sees cross progression as a very important part of The Elder Scrolls Legends.
And on that topic:
This is absolutely ridiculous. This is a bad point. It only serves to shift blame towards Bethesda for being hypocritical instead of accurately pointing the finger at Sony for their convoluted, anti-consumer stance on cross play and cross progression.
Fallout 76 is a survival RPG. The Elder Scrolls Legends is a collectable card game. Those are two very different genres. The Elder Scrolls Legends is easy to pick up and play for a few minutes anywhere. As a result cross progression is important so your account and cards can be used on any platform. Whether that be your Xbox or your phone or your PC you can play with the same cards. That's very important in a CCG, and Sony's stance on cross progression would make the idea of playing on any platform needlessly complicated. Fallout 76 is a different game that you're likely only playing in the comfort of your home. Cross progression is likely less important for that reason since your platform of choice will always be easily accessible when you're going to play it. Cross play would be nice as it would increase the pool of players for everyone and allow friends to play with each other despite owning different platforms, but its not necessary in the same way that cross progression is for The Elder Scrolls Legends.
If Bethesda is all about cross-play they should release Fallout 76 on Steam instead of locking it behind their own launcher only.
lol, I just saw this thread.
Will be keeping an eye on Fallout 76 also.
In really curious if it will have its own account, and how that will play out on consoles...
Probably nothing, but what about cross progression? Curious to see how the account situation is handled.
I doubt it'll support cross progression but who knows? Would be great. I'd say that mod support (Xbox doesn't support all PC mods as far as I know) would keep cross progression away but I'm assuming mods might not be supported in a multiplayer focused game anyway? Hadn't thought of that till now!
Good for Bethesda. Sony should be asked why their backwards policies are keeping games off their platform, and more developers who can afford to should take a stand as well.
Doubtful. Probably why that's not the game this thread is about.
Go ahead Bethesda. Sony should have kicked Skyrim off it's platform after it ran at 5 frames per second on my PS3. Thanks for letting me waste $60 on that garbage.
In all seriousness no one cares if another card game doesn't show up on PSN.
In all seriousness no one cares if another card game doesn't show up on PSN.
I don't really see how the thread title reflects what was said in the interview.
PS4 also does support cross-play, just not with two platforms.
Until Bethesda comes out and says no PS4 version because of cross-platform restrictions I don't think there's any real news here.
PS4 also does support cross-play, just not with two platforms.
Until Bethesda comes out and says no PS4 version because of cross-platform restrictions I don't think there's any real news here.
Good! I'm with Bethesda on this. Cross play/progression to me is so important, I want to be able to buy a game and not worry about the player base dwindling on a certain platform or moving over from one system to another and picking up where I left off.
One day...
One day...
He literally says in the interview that it has to play with and have cross progression with every platform, no exceptions. He's clearly talking about PS4.
What, you think they wouldn't not release a card game on PS4? Why does it being a card game mean that they have to put it on the platform?
And I bet the digital picture frame would support full cross-progression/cross-play.
they seem to be throwing their weight around in odd ways recently. between suing the guy selling a game "new" on amazon marketplace (which was a BS move that literally achieves nothing) and this, i'm kinda losing favor with them as a company.
in this instance they won't do it though, it's a hollow threat. and as people have said. if they are going to do these "power moves" do it with fallout 76. actually grow a pair and do it with a game people might actually care about.
in this instance they won't do it though, it's a hollow threat. and as people have said. if they are going to do these "power moves" do it with fallout 76. actually grow a pair and do it with a game people might actually care about.
Money. They only want people to purchase DLC and subs on their platform.
Wassup, I got Legends installed on the microwave, fire up your Roomba so we can have a match...
The Elder Scrolls: Legends, apparently.
I'm away from my roomba at the moment, but luckily my hotel mini fridge supports cross-progression! Send me your Bethesda ID.
"may" not release. ie. it will release but we'll see if we can create waves anyway.
To all the people saying they won't do it, what if they do and it's still a runaway success? Then what? It's not like you need Sony to make a PC or console hit, look at Hearthstone, PUBG, DOTA, or Minecraft before it was ported to PS3/Vita.
The only way Sony is going to change is developer or gamer pressure, this is a great start.
The only way Sony is going to change is developer or gamer pressure, this is a great start.
Well that's speculation isn't it? All we have is Bethesda saying it's 'non negotiable' for every platform and specifically making a point of not calling out any particular platform (although it's obvious which one they're talking about). Bethesda didn't even bring this up in the interview - it was a question asked of them when they said that their game is fully cross-play/cross-progression. They're not making a very good job of 'making waves' if that's the intention. Not bringing it up until asked about it and then failing to name and shame any particular platform. Fun to speculate though.
The article is about Bethesda potentially not releasing The Elder Scrolls: Legends on platforms that don't support cross-progression/cross-play. Your response was...
Just wondered why you think they wouldn't keep a card game back from releasing on the PS4? Or were you saying that they should make a card game but it be Fallout 76 themed? Maybe I'm lost.
Ah sorry, I was just saying that maybe they could put some pressure on Sony if it was a big game like Fallout 76, and not some card game. Of course they won't leave PS4 out just for cross play, that's simple PR talk.
yeah, because of crossplay they will miss alot of money, Yeah I think we must believe him. Crossplay > Money
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Look man, just because they suggest something that's remotely negative about your favorite company, doesn't means you have to lie to smear them.
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the game is on smartphones, they don't actually need the PS4 userbase if it's going to be locked off from all other platforms.
The long-term effects on the industry are more beneficial than the short-term downside for this one game. Especially since this game will be on mobile, which alone would be enough to sustain it if successful.