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Biden Takes Advantage of Tory Sweep, "Look at what happens when the Labour party moves so so far to the left."
- Thread starter BADMAN
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They didn't win by being centrist but by conquering the middle. Huge difference.
Yeah, that far left liberal socialist Hillary was just too much.
Dems will eat up this right wing talking point.
You're right! You do it by inspiring people with clearly spoken policies that will materially improve people's lives, and facilitate collective action in order to challenge the inherently corrupt and malfunctioning political system the US has.
Unfortunately, nobody besides Sanders is doing that. Bummer.
There is your problem then. If the left wing parties can't convince them to vote for them (Which evidence suggest seems very unlikely) leftists parties will have to decide whether they want to change or continue to lose elections.
Those people won't vote for you because you call them out.
You're going to have to clarify how they conquered the middle while openly touting far right policies, because as it stands what you're saying is a meaningless abstraction.
Totally. You win it with well thought out arguments and integrity like Donald Trump and Boris Johnson
I agree, the left should just become more racist to get the racist vote.
His tactic is go after "moderate" working-class whites to win the primary (and general). Which, looking at the makeup of swing states... isn't a bad play.
Ah yes so you can't answer with any arguments so you compare people to racists.
Exhibit A why the left won't convince the center to vote for them.
I mean we want to win elections right?
Calling them racists clearly isn't working so change has to come from the inside
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Democrats lost against the worst candidate ever because the best argument they had was "I'm not Trump". Joe Biden will be Hillary 2.0
The Left has won 3 Elections this year in Spain, why isn't he using that example? And by the way, the 2 left-parties that'll form the coalition here just pacted a raise of the minimum wage from 900 (previously 7xx, raised last year by those parties too) to 1200€.
That's HOW YOU WIN elections to the far right, being useful for the MANY, not by being the lesser evil.
The Left has won 3 Elections this year in Spain, why isn't he using that example? And by the way, the 2 left-parties that'll form the coalition here just pacted a raise of the minimum wage from 900 (previously 7xx, raised last year by those parties too) to 1200€.
That's HOW YOU WIN elections to the far right, being useful for the MANY, not by being the lesser evil.
Your point?
He's making a comparison to our general election, not our primary.
I didn't compare people to racists I directly called them racists.
By forcing a second election, losing seats and then going with the coalition partner everyone expected you partner with anyways?
So you call Johnson and Trump racist. And the left failed to get the center to not vote for them, the two racists. But the real reason the center voted for the racists is because they were called racists by the left.
Yep, just like the last election Mr. Biden! Joe Biden has the common sense bipartisan solutions that we need and will work with Republicans to bring about the Golden Age.
Really dumb move by PSOE, but the point is that left policies do win elections.
Lol at this oblique reference to the "deplorables" comment when the actual problem is that she weakly backed down from it rather than doubling down like Trump et al would if they were talking about leftists.
I mean Bernie was too much considering he lost.
And some of you Dems won't realize that the party might not be ready for a "political revolution". With every signal showing it (like Hilary's nomination).
We weren't in 2016, and we might not be 2020.
I wish it weren't true, but that's reality. The majority of black people have been telling you that for a while with their votes.
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Well, they sure are lining up behind Pete to show us all how much they like libdem meritocratic policies.
Ah yes, let's mimic the advise of our adversaries. They're surely offering it in good faith, because they enjoy the sport of a competitive race.
Racists will continue to vote for racists. Nothing new about that.
It's just a shame that there's so many of them, even as we head into 2020.
It's just a shame that there's so many of them, even as we head into 2020.
Yeah, with a substantial 2% support of their support right? You guys really don't have a clue about us do you?
Is there really that big of a distinction between the two?
The PP collapsing entirely under Rajoy helped immensely and Vox is now a thing (yuck). Biden extrapolating from the British result is folly but so is using Spain as an example. Left got wiped everywhere else in Europe this year (and last tbh)
USERA we have 11 months to emotionally and financially prepare for Trump's re-election. I highly suggest a lot of us take advantage of it. "Something stupid/bad/evil happening can't/won't happen again" historically is a bad omen
I dont know, I figured we were talking for entire demographic groups, like you just did.
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Right. Which is why we need to vote for Sanders to have the best chance at beating Trump
He probably thinks this is reason enough to not give a shit about the youth vote too. Not like he's been trying anyway, given his constant criticisms of the left and kissing up to Republicans.
I mean on one hand going too left will be absolutely disastrous for the 2020 elections, America ain't ready for even a moderate leftist let alone everything Sanders wants. On the OTHER hand going public with this viewpoint is absolutely idiotic and the DNC cannibalising itself during election year is a guaranteed way to get Trump back in office despite the impeachment, or someone as radically far right or worse. Do this shit in private for fucks sake and develop an official party line instead of this petty bullshit.
I'm not even sure why I'm surprised.
Fuck Joe Biden, seriously. I'm so sick of being a goddamn political hostage. The idea of pulling the level for this guy is super upsetting.
Fuck Joe Biden, seriously. I'm so sick of being a goddamn political hostage. The idea of pulling the level for this guy is super upsetting.
Clinton technically ran the most progressive campaign in Dem history
She ran mostly to the left of Obama in 08 too, and Biden is to the right of him.
I agree with him.. then again maybe Im just dejected after the results I dont know. At this point im just expecting the worst.
