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The middle was annihilated and has nearly 20% of the seats that the Scottish Nationalist Party got. Furthermore, how do you look at the victory of a far right party and come away with the conclusion that they won by being more centrist? Same for Trump in the US, who is a far-right admirer of fascism.
Yeah, that far left liberal socialist Hillary was just too much.It sucks but Biden is schooling people on the median voter theorem. It's true.
Funny that you fallback on hilary because her campaign was just as poor as the one corbyn had.
You don't win elections with funny memes on twitter or calling the other side racists.
There is your problem then. If the left wing parties can't convince them to vote for them (Which evidence suggest seems very unlikely) leftists parties will have to decide whether they want to change or continue to lose elections.
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They didn't win by being centrist but by conquering the middle. Huge difference.
Totally. You win it with well thought out arguments and integrity like Donald Trump and Boris JohnsonFunny that you fallback on hilary because her campaign was just as poor as the one corbyn had.
You don't win elections with funny memes on twitter or calling the other side racists.
I agree, the left should just become more racist to get the racist vote.There is your problem then. If the left wing parties can't convince them to vote for them (Which evidence suggest seems very unlikely) leftists parties will have to decide whether they want to change or continue to lose elections.
Those people won't vote for you because you call them out.
So the new "tactic" is to go after the left? Is this how the democrats are going to do it?
Fuck Joe Biden.
Don't listen to him. It was a freak Brexit election where a sizeable number of Labour supporters wanted to leave.
Ah yes so you can't answer with any arguments so you compare people to racists.Totally. You win it with well thought out arguments and integrity like Donald Trump and Boris Johnson
I mean we want to win elections right?Why should we pander to the racism of white people, regardless of their class?
he probably also realizes that Bernie lost to Hillary before that happened. Your math just doesn't ad up.
I didn't compare people to racists I directly called them racists.Ah yes so you can't answer with any arguments so you compare people to racists.
Exhibit A why the left won't convince the center to vote for them.
Democrats lost against the worst candidate ever because the best argument they had was "I'm not Trump". Joe Biden will be Hillary 2.0
The Left has 3 Elections this year in Spain, why isn't he using that example? And by the way, the 2 left-parties that'll form the coalition here just pacted a raise of the minimum wage from 900 (previously 7xx, raised last year by those parties too) to 1200€.
That's HOW YOU WIN elections to the far right, being useful for the MANY, not by being the lesser evil.
So you call Johnson and Trump racist. And the left failed to get the center to not vote for them, the two racists. But the real reason the center voted for the racists is because they were called racists by the left.Ah yes so you can't answer with any arguments so you compare people to racists.
Exhibit A why the left won't convince the center to vote for them.
Joe Biden said:
By forcing a second election, losing seats and then going with the coalition partner everyone expected you partner with anyways?
Ah yes so you can't answer with any arguments so you compare people to racists.
Exhibit A why the left won't convince the center to vote for them.
I mean we want to win elections right?
Calling them racists clearly isn't working so change had to come from the inside
There is your problem then. If the left wing parties can't convince them to vote for them (Which evidence suggest seems very unlikely) leftists parties will have to decide whether they want to change or continue to lose elections.
Those people won't vote for you because you call them out.
I mean Bernie was too much considering he lost.Yeah, that far left liberal socialist Hillary was just too much.
Dems will eat up this right wing talking point.
Hilary Clinton lost to Trump my dude. Does he realize this? Dems picked the centrist candidate and lost.
I mean Bernie was too much considering he lost.
And some of you Dems won't realize that the party might not be ready for a "political revolution". With every signal showing it (like Hilary's nomination).
We weren't in 2016, and we might not be 2020.
I wish it weren't true, but that's reality. Black people have been telling you that for a while with their votes.
Yeah, with a substantial 2% support of their support right? You guys really don't have a clue about us do you?Well, they sure are lining up behind Pete to show us all how much they like libdem meritocratic policies.
Really dumb move by PSOE, but the point is that left policies do win elections.
Yeah, with a substantial 2% support of their support right? You guys really don't have a clue about us do you?
Right. Which is why we need to vote for Sanders to have the best chance at beating TrumpUSERA we have 11 months to emotionally and financially prepare for Trump's re-election. I highly suggest a lot of us take advantage of it. "Something stupid/bad/evil happening can't/won't happen again" historically is a bad omen
Sorry I meant the majority. Updated my post.I dont know, I figured we were talking for entire demographic groups, like you just did.