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Bloodborne 60FPS hack creator: "(...) the job is even easier than we assumed. So why the heck isn’t it being done?"
- Thread starter Lant_War
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If From Software cared they'd have put in proper frame pacing years ago to start. Really weird for Sony not to do this since it's probably once of their strongest exclusive.
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Sure, why not. I'd love to see Driveclub at 60 if it was possible.
Wink Wink ;)
Anyways its really weird that all good selling PS4 1st party games are getting PS5 patches and not BB when it was a notable seller.. hell even gravity rush, a niche series but a vocally fan requested series got a remaster AND a sequel! Iam 99% sure that Sony hasn't abandoned BB. Its getting a remaster iam fairly optimistic about...or at the very least a PC port.
Sony doesn't think it will benefit them financially, and they're likely right. Plus FROM is likely too busy with Elden Ring and Japan Studio is gone.
They can't do it without Sony's approval.
They can't do it without Sony's approval.
Answer: QA, Cert, and other considerations that still need to be done in order to make sure the game does not implode at the new frame rate.
Costs money and time, so its likely coming at some point if we are lucky, just not now.
Costs money and time, so its likely coming at some point if we are lucky, just not now.
Because Sony would love to sell you another $70 copy of Bloodborne at some point down the line, and that means making your existing copy as worthless as possible.
Sure, funded by pubs and I think that contract expired already.
It's Sony's game, and their contract with FROM for Bloodborne probably ended when they wrapped up The Old Hunters, which could be why we never got a PS4 Pro patch. If Sony doesn't commission FROM to patch the game, we're not getting a patch. Especially now that JAPAN Studios is no more.
Because most of those thousands are already on PC but BB isn't.
It really all just comes back to being marketable or profitable, they'd rather sell you Bloodborne remake but a Bloodborne patch would hamper sales of that. Whereas a new Ratchet game is launching soon and a Ratchet remaster likely wouldn't do big numbers so what can you do? Drum up PR and get fans excited with a relatively easy update. Then what happens to other games that could use a patch but don't have a new game coming or can't drum up sales as a remaster, nothing they will get nothing.
It'll sure benefit them financially if they do a PC release, though.
Even as a $30 PC release, that will net them probably 40-50 million USD. It would likely sell quite well on PC.
I doubt Sony wouldn't approve it if FROM wanted to patch it, but they don't. Unless they're planning a PC port.
Sony also won't ask their internal studios to do it.
SM remaster is $20 (and it's more than a FPS boost), everything else was patched for free. They never sold remasters at full price.
Bloodborne is a beloved game with notorious frame pacing issues. Not hard to see why people want this so badly.
Literally only one first party game got an actual remaster and it had huge changes (Spider-Man). The rest got free patches. God of War, Days Gone, Tsushima, etc.
Wouldn't be surprised if there are actually people within From that are willing to put the hours for the patch. However, higher ups probably wouldn't entertain the idea of basically paying the patch on their own pockets. Especially since the publisher is one of the major ones.
There is little financial incentive to doing this now I would guess.
Maybe after enough time where Sony thinks they would make a profit remastering the entire game.
Maybe after enough time where Sony thinks they would make a profit remastering the entire game.
If a remaster was in the works they wouldn't have included the base version in the PS+ Collection.
All of those games are newer than Bloodborne, and all of them already have a PS4 Pro SKU. They are all made by internal studios as well, while Bloodborne isn't.
I guess. I mean.. We have gotten a number of free patches from Sony's studios to uncap frame rates.
Even full scale remasters seldom ever approach full price with Sony. If we were to ever see Sony charging $70 for Bloodborne, it'd be a full scale remake like Demon's Souls. Which I doubt is happening.
Yeah, seems like From software is not really interested in doing those upgrades... isn't also Dark Souls 3 still locked at 30 fps on Xbox Series?
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The frame pacing issues are because of the framerate limiter, we have footage of it running on PS5 with the patch and the frame pacing is pretty much perfect:
Would boosting the frame rate to 60fps fix the frame pacing issues?
I was under the impression some things broke at 60fps which he had to fix manually, where as Insomniac probably codes things to be frame rate independent. So while this makes it easier, it's still not just "flip a switch."
Yeah, but what the poster I replied to said had nothing to do with that.
I believe so. It did for Dark Souls 3 from what I recall. Either way, fixing the frame pacing issues should be expected along with the boost to 60fps. Sony is doing this kind of work on a lot of their games, like Ratchet & Clank just recently, and Bloodborne is a game that needs it more than most.
I don't agree. While those other games were made with 4K in mind, Bloodborne (probably) wasn't. So if they truly want to release a 'PS5 patch' they would essentially have to remaster the game if they want it to be on par with their other games, that already have 4K textures and sometimes even higher poly models included in the gamefiles. And sure, they could just uncap the framerate, heck, maybe they could even buy Lance's patch and just push the patched SKU to the players as a 'patch', but the game also doesn't look that hot, especially on a 4K TV (not talking about the artstyle, which is gorgeous) with lots of shimmering and jagged edges, so that's where a full remaster would make more sense, which of course would cost money, and like others have said in this thread before; just a 60 fps update to the base PS4 version would devalue a remaster like that.
Long story short; it would cost more time and money to bring Bloodborne up to modern standards than it would with those other games you're mentioning, which is why a full remaster would make more sense.
The updates usually come from the developer of the game and it's clear by now that From Software have move on from Bloodborne and busy with their next game. And no one in Japan Studio left is involved with Bloodborne. So there's no one to do the patch.
It's the downside of Sony giving so much freedom to their studio and there's no company wide mandate for certain thing. Like Insomniac is doing great job of updating Ratchet and Spider-man, while we're left wondering when Naughty Dog gonna update their games. And this is worse for games which the developer has gone away kr move on like Japan Studio and FromSoftware.
For it to happen, Someone from Sony had to either pay FromSoftware to go back and do the patch, or point to one of their dev to patch it, kr contact Lance McDonald and pay him to use his patch
He gave the answer himself.
They'll most likely do a remastered Bloodborne at 4K / remaster and some QoL + instant load times.
The real question is why Last Guardian isn't patched back to 60 considering its vanilla version is running at 60 so that would have been a no brainer.
Unchated 4, Lost Legacy, Gravity Rush 2, Last Guardian, Bloodborne, these are the unfortunate ones so far.
? There is no such thing. A dev ps5 can run the hacked BB code.
And BB can't run at 4K with any hack.
They'll most likely do a remastered Bloodborne at 4K / remaster and some QoL + instant load times.
The real question is why Last Guardian isn't patched back to 60 considering its vanilla version is running at 60 so that would have been a no brainer.
Unchated 4, Lost Legacy, Gravity Rush 2, Last Guardian, Bloodborne, these are the unfortunate ones so far.
? There is no such thing. A dev ps5 can run the hacked BB code.
And BB can't run at 4K with any hack.
Yes it would.
See DS3 for example (10:43s if timestamp doesn't work):
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I mean, Bloodborne is one of the PS+ Collection games right now with all it's 1080p, poorly framepaced 30FPS glory. I'd find it hard to argue that a patch wouldn't help it stick out less when it comes to its technical state.
This. It is a lot easier when you are an indie developer releasing a patch for a pc game, for example, but when you have a larger project (and in this case, you have Sony and From Software needing to be involved), it requires a lot more people to be involved.
Besides, it wouldn't make sense to release a patch for BB while Demon's Souls still selling well, It would me a much better idea to release it 10 to 12 months after.