Yes. DS3 was also just as bad and unlocking the framerate helped it. Same thing for no issues being at 60 on PC.
Bloodborne 60FPS hack creator: "(...) the job is even easier than we assumed. So why the heck isn’t it being done?"
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Probably has something to do with Japan Studio not existing anymore. It's hard to believe it's a priority.
From isn't technically competent enough to even know what proper frame pacing is, they're not going to initiate something like this on their own.
Sony, please manage your shit.
JAPAN Studio closed this month, while Bloodborne has been out since March 2015 and the PS4 Pro since November 2016. If it were up to JAPAN Studio they would've had almost 4.5 years to uncap the framerate and maybe upgrade the resolution. I don't think them shutting down has anything to do with it.
IDK if From does care or not, but this post makes no sense. The publisher (in this case Sony) is who needs to care (and fund the patch). From has updated both Dark Souls III and Sekiro on console to add unlocked framerate or new free content, they also updated BB on launch to fix the insanely long loading times, but their contract with Sony ended and so their motivation to do any other patch.
Yeah I have no expectations of this getting a patch period, certainly not just with FROM doing it.
Why wasn't Ratchet and Clank patched until last week? What was stopping Insomniac doing it earlier? Unbelievable!
Absolute bollocks.
Probably has something to do with it being one of the best games of last gen and of all time to many.
Fair point. Sony isn't completely blame free here either. But From has a history of knowing there is a problem with their game or something otherwise and just ignore it.
Back when Dark Souls 2 was new some of the more prominent Souls players sent them an e-mail about certain ideas about balance changes and a whole laundry list of glitches, exploits, etc. and never got a response. But a month later the only thing that was done was removing the barrel outfit from the game you could only get through hacking. So they read the email but willfully chose to ignore it. The want for a 60 FPS patch is well known, and they almost certainly know it too. They just don't give a shit. Maybe we'll see a PS5 port at some point (kind of like what they did with DS2 with Scholar) but a patch? For free? It's a pipe dream.
Oh yah...all games running on the from software engine on lastgen hardware exhibit the same frame pacing problem including ds3 & sekiro.
Running ds3 & sekiro on ps5 at 60fps essentially fixed it.
It's going to happen, I have no doubt.
They made Demon's Souls a launch game, they know people want Bloodborne.
I expect though, they will do a bigger remaster.
They made Demon's Souls a launch game, they know people want Bloodborne.
I expect though, they will do a bigger remaster.
As much as I would love to dunk on Sony for this, there's just so much we don't know about why these games haven't been upgraded yet. Ratchet and Clank has been in the PS+ collection and then the play at home thing too, then with a few days left they patch it. What took so long, what changed? God of War took a few months to update too. Still nothing for Horizon or Last of Us 2, or Uncharted, Sonys biggest tentpole titles. Maybe now this is the secret cipher that Insomniac cracked and all the other developers can just do it now too.
Yes, and it would be glorious. Every game that has framepacing issues is a 30fps or uncapped game. Locked 60 takes care of it.
Crazy to think Bloodborne and Uncharted 4 are both critically acclaimed 6 six years old games, still running at 30fps on a more powerful machine. What hurts the most? Sony communication regarding on "Why, nope or because", is inexistent.
Patching a Console game is complicated, and I'm not talking about the actual coding to make the desired changes but more the submission side of things.
There's a lot of 1st party requirements (Tools updates, New Compliance TRCs, ect...), contracts from the time of development and most importantly legal requirements that updated since (GDPR killed a lot of post-launch patches). Still with this being a Sony exclusive you'd think they'd look to assist in powering through the complications
There's a lot of 1st party requirements (Tools updates, New Compliance TRCs, ect...), contracts from the time of development and most importantly legal requirements that updated since (GDPR killed a lot of post-launch patches). Still with this being a Sony exclusive you'd think they'd look to assist in powering through the complications
IDK about this, we got Dark Souls remastered, we got a Demon's Souls remake (not that they did it but at least they okay'd it), lots of DLC for all the Souls games and Bloodborne, all the games had patches (though some came too late), pretty sure matchmaking is still up for all the games except Demon's Souls but correct me if I'm wrong, and the servers could have stayed up longer for that ideally
It's an old game and Jim Ryan says Sony fans don't care about old games. They would rather sell you the not old 70$ remake.
Scholar was a Bandai Namco thing, like DkS Remaster was. It's true that the PC version of the original DkS was really bad, same with DkS II and the 60 FPS weapon degradation bug, but again, the publisher is who decides how much time and money is going to be invested in a game they funded. FROM are not technically competent at all so I wouldn't expect them to be worried about bad framerate, this I agree, but if the publishers gave them enough time and money to make more polished games, I think they should be able to fix some problems before launch. What we can do now is hope that Elden Ring is polished and has 60 FPS Ps5/Series X versions and a good PC port, the game is having a longer development cycle compared to the previous FROM releases but is also a bigger and more ambitious title so who knows how will be technically.
Is that actually mentioned?
Lance did a lot of other work for the patch too.
Shutting the studio down was just another step on a series of strategic decisions. I'm not saying it was the factor but probably one of them, as Japan Studio was directly involved in the development process.
Because Bloodborne is the best Playstation exclusive of all time.
Developed by QOLC and Virtuos, not by FROM.
The "we got FROM's blessing" nonsense really does not mean anything considering Sony owns the IP, I doubt Miyazaki spared more than 1 second thinking about if the remake should be made or not.
This depends on their western publisher partner, at least partially, the decision to update or not the game is not made only by FROM. For example Sekiro got a really late patch with some more content, but BB only few early patches to fix some loading problems.
FROM is not good technically, and their development partners don't want to spend enough money to help them fix their shortcomings, that's the problem here.
This.
Kind of don't like it when a dude ho does some things out of passion and with his spare time goes off like "oh it's so easy" and blah blah as though they don't have project deadlines, actual projects or other job-related things to it going on.
Maybe some of the games it's not as difficult to do? Maybe this wasn't happening around PS5 launch because they were going through some games and needed to test to make sure it maintains the stability it needs to?
Hell, in Bloodborne's case, aren't the physics and overall game speed tied to the framerate? I know many games are like this which is why you sometimes can't just take a 30fps game and crank it to 60fps without it massive effing something up. Or why most fighting games cap at 60 and forcing them higher does even more weird shit.
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It's mentioned in this DF article on the original showcase of the patch that due to how the engine works capping the framerate to 30FPS with good frame pacing is impossible without heavily modifying it.
Ghost of Tsushima Legends (the MP mode) is 60FPS on PS5 and 30 on PS4.
Sony did make some noise at one point about not wanting multiplayer games to run at different framerates on different hardware, I thought. Am I misremembering? If no, have they shown any signs of walking that back? The PS5 upgraded games I am aware of so far have mostly been single player titles (Ratchet & Clank, God of War, etc.).
Right, because these two things take the exact same amount of work.
I just had a nightmare daydream of it being a PS exclusive pre-order bonus for Elden Ring after reading the OP. But I've been on blackout for that game so idk who snagged the marketing contract with From for that title (be it MS or Sony) EDIT: and while it's fun to think about for asecond on a lark, i don't think it would go down that way lol. It probably just has to do with japan Studio restructuring in my view, wanna get their house in order/reorganized before they do something with this much fan demand.
No? The publisher (and in this case the owner of the game) can always outsource it. See Nier Automata PC patch for Winstore that was done by QLOC.
Sony just released a full remake of Demon's Souls, I'm sure they think that they have already delivered the "exclusive FROM content" for the system. Lots of Ps4 games still lack a proper Ps5 patch to improve performance (TLOU Remastered and TLOU II, Uncharted games...) and we're talking about bigger games, so they are either too busy to release patches faster or they are aiming to sell Remastered versions like they did with Spiderman.
Why do we have to create an obstacle course to do anything on Playstation? We can't get a bloodborne patch and elden ring in the same timely manner?
This is the case with every single awful 30 fps japanese games that either had an unlocked fps mode or PC version.
From KH3, FFXV, last guardian, to bloodborne etc..
It's crazy that every Souls game + Sekiro runs at a locked 60fps on PS5, but Bloodborne doesn't. Hopefully that's rectified at some point.
It's easy when you don't have to justify these things to multiple layers of business executives.
There is little to no financial incentive to these patches and there isn't even a Bloodborne 2 on the horizon. There are many major Sony first-party titles that have not gotten updates. Add in magnitudes more overhead to negotiate this type of thing with a third party and it's not too surprising to see why it doesn't happen.
There is little to no financial incentive to these patches and there isn't even a Bloodborne 2 on the horizon. There are many major Sony first-party titles that have not gotten updates. Add in magnitudes more overhead to negotiate this type of thing with a third party and it's not too surprising to see why it doesn't happen.
That's not a thing, there's multiple MP games which already have higher framerates vs last gen, most extreme example probably being Destiny 2, which has a 120FPS mode for The Crucible (PvP) whilst last gen is capped at 30. Sony don't do all that many PvP games, so we don't know if they'd be against, also I'm pretty sure their MP stuff are at 60FPS already.
