Bloomberg: "Game developers, speaking anonymously... said that Nintendo has asked them to make their games 4K ready"
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It's just very hard for me to believe Nintendo is embracing DLSS this early. Would love to be wrong though but... still seems like Nvidia would want a nice chunk of change for that.
Plus a major reason Nvidia is pushing DLSS is so they can use your GPU for features like ray tracing.
DLSS needs a major player like Nintendo to embrace it. It'll never take off like it should otherwise. Only like 5 games support it on PC as of now.
DLSS is still a feature that features in the high-end GPUs (20 and 30 series), so it's not mainstream for NVIDIA yet. Getting Nintendo on board early with a Switch Pro could help provide extra reasons for devs to embrace the technology, which in turn helps NVIDIA push their DLSS-enabled GPUs more. I think NVIDIA has some reasons to want the tech inside of the Switch Pro.
For all intents and purposes let's say it is 4K capable, Imagine a console with Mario, Zelda, Pokemon AND COD Assassins creed etc. Gangbusters.
Agreed, I feel like if they ever do a Tegra equivalent with tensor cores, it would be for the Switch 2 and not a refresh.
Oh yeah, if that's actually what's going on here, this could be a big win for DLSS adoption in general.
Better textures and filtering would still mean more information for the upscaler to work with.
I'd like to be wrong, but even with the die shrink the tensor cores take up a good amount of die space. Feel like that stuff is more likely for Switch 2. The shield also just got an update that improves that AI upscaling and adds supports for a lot more resolutions and configurations that might be necessary for gaming. Seems a little too coincidental.
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There's already a Tegra SoC with Tensor cores. It's the Tegra Xavier. I doubt the Tegra Xavier will be used for the "Nintendo Switch Pro", but a Tegra SoC with Tensor cores already exists.
interesting... considering most Switch titles don't hold 1080p consistently right now. to get any real benefit from 4k they need a serious boost to the GPU and possibly DLSS.
I would have expected a mild increase in processing across the board so that it can hit 1080p with fewer trade offs from a graphics perspective. Never thought they would target 4k so soon.
I would have expected a mild increase in processing across the board so that it can hit 1080p with fewer trade offs from a graphics perspective. Never thought they would target 4k so soon.
It'll be interesting to see if it'll be a Switch Pro with a 1080p screen and 4k tv output ....or a Switch 4k TV only device.
TV only might more sense in regards to creating a separate strand/ mainstream pricing.
TV only might more sense in regards to creating a separate strand/ mainstream pricing.
Hmm if it's meant to be be a docked only system, I can see it, but I wouldn't be interested.
I'll be surprised if they can actually make a portable switch system run at 4K, unless it is using some form of DLSS or maybe the dock has some extra power in it that can enable it?
Really I'm fine with 720p portable switch, 1080p max. I'd more just want a boosted switch that can handle the Xenoblades at a higher res portable.
I'll be surprised if they can actually make a portable switch system run at 4K, unless it is using some form of DLSS or maybe the dock has some extra power in it that can enable it?
Really I'm fine with 720p portable switch, 1080p max. I'd more just want a boosted switch that can handle the Xenoblades at a higher res portable.
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Updated joycons have been rumored as part of this hardware, so I think it's doubtful it's a TV only device.
Haha. This made me laugh. I'll just wait for Switch 2 Lite Pro in 2025.
There isn't one, which is the point of this article. The implication is that there'll soon be a point where the native res is not 1080p, or DLSS is involved.
Maybe the RTX 3090 is that big bc it's actually the new Switch Pro dock that externally enhances it
Curious to see what specs this thing has. If it can even match the GPU power of current gen undocked I will be happy.
I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but I highly doubt it since the RTX 3090 outputs around 350 W of power. And the Nintendo Switch in docked mode outputs around 30 W of power.
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In principle, I think Nintendo and Nvidia could probably put together a chip that boosts games that run at 1080p on the current Switch to 4K on a Pro by adding a bunch more CUDA cores. I don't know how the numbers work out, but considering that the Switch currently completely lacks Tensor cores, it might not even be that much more expensive to just hit native 4k than to use DLSS.
Switch is selling way too many units for there to be switch 2. I expect a pro model for the hard core gamers.
Didn't hear that one. Hopefully that means analog triggers. I would take a proper dpad too but that goes against the Switch's principles.
Yeah, at the time I was always like 'why change things when the Wii is doing so well', or 'Save HD for the Wii 2' but now I think it would have been a good idea, especially when games later on like Skyward Sword would have benefitted so much from it.
I was just thinking, what if nintendo want to release a switch dock model that is the equivalent of a series s and the current switch remains the same? This will keep costs low, as a more powerful handheld and dock will drive the price up to £500 if they want to keep the current switch price of £280, which I am sure they do. It could then be sold for £400.
A patent just came out for new joy-cons that are self contained and don't slot on to anything. A TV only device would likely still come with a form of joy-con over a pro-controller imo (to allow for two player out of the box).
The one on PC no longer needs to be trained game-specific wise. That's what was changed in DLSS 2.0.
It's always been possible for the revision to be DLSS capable, but that would require either adding Tensor cores to the X1 or switching to a newer GPU architecture, both of which seemed pretty unlikely given Nintendo's history.
I'm not sure if that would work since the tablet, not the dock, is responsible for increasing the resolution when in docked mode.
Not possible, the USB port on the Switch doesn't have enough bandwidth for external components like that. An updated dock doesn't need anything more to it than thunderbolt, the Switch is what needs updating.
I am so fucking ready for this. Even if most games are hitting 1440p or thereabouts, it'd be a massive boost over the current hardware and stuff like Breath of the Wild and Super Mario Odyssey will clean up real nice.
Edit: God damn, I bit the bait here. My memory isn't what it used to be. Chuckled when I remembered the context though.
I get what you mean as Nintendo aren't usually the ones to adopt new technologies like this, but DLSS is pretty much Nintendo's only real chance at grasping great looking 4K games on a handheld console.
Oh thanks for the information! Seems to give more credence to a DLSS Switch.
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Im sorry to evertone but... Im so out of this things nowadays. Whats DLSS, and why is so important for a Nintendo console.
I already have a Switch, would be beneficial to buy this new one if this come with DLSS? Thank you in advance!
I already have a Switch, would be beneficial to buy this new one if this come with DLSS? Thank you in advance!
Maybe this is why Bethesda is sitting on the DOOM: Eternal Switch port. They're waiting for that 60 FPS greatness on the Switch Pro.