Zac Eubank (former showrunner of Geek & Sundry) is saying on Twitter that Chloe was in fact blacklisted.
And probably just the beginning of it too. Now that the story is out there and taking off, there will be more stories about him coming out.Quoting you because "somehow" people are missing this. There's your corroboration.
Exactly.Folks, if Chloe is going to release her proof she will do it with her lawyer, not to satisfy the court of Twitter opinion.
The only parties who should potentially get to see the evidence are any networks or organizations looking into the allegations. I think it's fair to say if action that's been taken is permanent and isn't undone that everything was in order.
If she claims to have evidence, she should present it. After the Takei thing, I'm a bit hesitant. Hardwick seems like a douche, but if you are admitting to having evidence it would be easy to prove. Most victims wish they had evidence.
Not to mention that she's probably already turned over what she has to relevant parties.. Not Twitter. She never said she was going to release it publicly, just telling people that she does have evidence. I'm sure she's approaching this as carefully as possible for obvious reasons.
Doesn't the Kanzinsky guy have his own Louis CK type moment from his past?I don't know what that is, but I'll take your word for it.
Edit - Somwhat unrealted, I've actually met Rob Kanzinsky and he's a stand up guy.
Exactly. Just throwing a bunch of this shit up on Twitter would only make the situation far worse.
Doesn't the Kanzinsky guy have his own Louis CK type moment from his past?
Doesn't the Kanzinsky guy have his own Louis CK type moment from his past?
I know you're banned and rightfully so but
1) Nobody gives a fuck how long you've been in the industry
2) You aren't the only person on this forum that works in the entertainment industry. But keep bringing it up, dude. Maybe if you tell everyone it will make you feel superior or something.
3) Experience doesn't matter don't victim blame. Industry guy here too, never heard anything bad about Hardwick either, but I believe her without question.
Yup. The proof is for legal use, not to vindicate her in the eyes of people "just asking questions" on social media. The number of people who know and work with him whose reactions were basically "...oh" should also be a clue here. Very few with real contact with the situation seem to be skeptical of Chloe's claims.
Exactly. Just throwing a bunch of this shit up on Twitter would only make the situation far worse.
Chloe: "Chris was an asshole"
People close to the story: "Agreed Chris was an asshole"
Random social media account: "But I ain't heard nothing tho??"
And it's also possible for people to be wrongly accused. I was on the other side of this once and thankfully had witnesses and proof that I was not in a specific place and time to have committed the accused acts. It's easy to make a claim.
You are absolutely right. She doesn't owe us proof. That will be for Hardwick to decide if he wants to litigate.It's not our place to demand receipts. She says she has proof, she's cleared it with her lawyer, and if it comes to it the lawsuit will happen. She doesn't owe Twitter or Era or anyone else on the internet more than that.
It is also easy to believe her, especially since there are others backing up what she said.And it's also possible for people to be wrongly accused. I was on the other side of this once and thankfully had witnesses and proof that I was not in a specific place and time to have committed the accused acts. It's easy to make a claim.
NVM deciding it's better to remove my post. I believe most accusations, I'm just hoping for more proof on this one.
You are absolutely right. She doesn't owe us proof. That will be for Hardwick to decide if he wants to litigate.
If she claims to have evidence, she should present it. After the Takei thing, I'm a bit hesitant. Hardwick seems like a douche, but if you are admitting to having evidence it would be easy to prove. Most victims wish they had evidence.
I'm only asking for proof because she herself said she has audio and video evidence. It's reasonable to request that before condemning someone.
Saying that you have audio and video evidence does not prove that the evidence exists
That is a radical change from earlier today:
So now you suddenly believe her and are not dismissive of the allegations? What caused this sudden change of heart?
The latter. Because editing a post right after people call him out on it isn't much self reflection.Maybe upon reflection he saw the error of his ways. Or maybe he just didn't want to be banned
I'm not saying she is right or wrong,I have said from the start that if she mentioned she has proof, then she could easily prove it. Hopefully that will be handled properly in court.That is a radical change from earlier today:
So now you suddenly believe her and are not dismissive of the allegations? What caused this sudden change of heart?
Oh, people have already been going after him. There are a lot of people out there who have had an intense hatred for Wil Wheaton and have been raging at him for two decades now. Never mind that he is a nerd who is vocal about his support of progressive issues like feminism, so that puts him firmly in the GamerGate/alt-right crosshairs. He'll catch shit no matter what he finally comes out and says, whether it's something bad that deserves him having it thrown his way or not.If need be the courts will decide.
On Twitter, Wil Wheaton will eventually say something, and then, half of Twitter will turn on Wil Wheaton.
I read his post as saying Hardwick was in the industry for 25 years without anything bad being said about him.
I literally know more than anyone on this here forum from personal experience than just from reading stories of people I don't know and have reason to lie just for internet fame.
He should have thought about that shit before doing it. Fuck him. Waste of skin.Seems like Chris wants to clear his name from sexual assualt. That's what he seems to be focused on.
Probably because emotional abuse is not illegal. Wondering where this will end up.
It's pretty telling of how people handle these situations when those who so quickly jump on the "believe every victim" and "I'm with #MeToo" train, such as Wil Wheaton and Felicia Day - with such fervor, deride anyone else instantly...except their friend who did these heinous things.
It's disappointing, honestly.
Personally, I think sending dick pics and texting lewd stuff at any age is a Louis C.K. moment, but that's just me. Anyway, you're not a kid at 22, you should have just about enough life experience and awareness of the world around you at that stage in your life to prevent you being a creep.Is sending dick pics and lewd texts at age 22 a Louis C.K. moment?
Personally, I think sending dick pics and texting lewd stuff at any age is a Louis C.K. moment.
The Phantom Thieves got to him.That is a radical change from earlier today:
So now you suddenly believe her and are not dismissive of the allegations? What caused this sudden change of heart?
Maybe upon reflection he saw the error of his ways. Or maybe he just didn't want to be banned
The latter. Because editing a post right after people call him out on it isn't much self reflection.
When your alternate view is harmful to women and minorities, you better believe there's no place here for that view. Nor should there be anywhere. Those aren't "alternate views", they're bad views.Yea, Resetera isn't a good place to foster that kind of self reflection lol.
You present an alternative view against the grain of a thread discussing a sensitive subject, you get a pretty swift banning. It really isn't worth it. Just post similar to the rest of the thread, or just keep quiet. It's a simple rule to live by here :)