I think the insurance only covers the cost to make the movie, I don't think it would cover marketing costs or the additional box office money the movie could make.
I think the fact Ezra is not that famous (aside from this) is probably why WB thinks they still have a chance. Just gotta ban them from interviews and market the film as Flashpoint starring the Batmen and Supergirl…oh and Flash is here too 😅Michael Jackson was a musical legend and quite literally the most well-known pop culture icon on the planet.
Ezra Miller is a mediocre actor playing a superhero very few people care about.
Sadly, thisHonestly I wouldn't until everyone is found safe and sound. Ezra is unhinged. Don't need anything to make them go off.
That seems like the responsible and reasonable thing to do, sure. Completely in line with what the crisis management people that were quoted on the OP too. /sUnless Ezra shoots someone with the firearms they've been carrying around, this movie is coming out in theaters. The movie is still OVER A YEAR away from releasing in theaters, that is a lot of time for a lot of shit to go on in the world.. and frankly with the way news gets burned through with the 24/7/365 newscyle, this will be a distant memory to most by the middle of July. Warner Bros will announce Ezra is no longer involved prior to the film releasing and Ezra won't be on the press tour.
Another reason they can't just can The Flash is that likely 3-5+ movies hinge on this movie existing.
So you're saying $200m budget hollywood movie studios can't deepfake them out while youtube creators can? 🤔
What makes it all the more difficult is that Ezra plays multiple characters that share the same screen. The first trailer has two different Barry Allens being introduced to Keaton's Batman at once.
This came out yesterday and I just saw it now:
Probably not related but this is what I have to say: Good. Get fucked. Big corporation needs to own up to their bulls and do what is right, I am not sorry for them and these characters deserve better caretakers. Let Amazon, Apple, Microsoft or Netflix have them, I don't care.
It didn't exactly hurt Michael Jackson's career and those accusations went to trial.
I imagine WB is waiting for Miller to be found and questions to be answered before deciding on how to proceed.
There's the strong possibility that Miller escalates between now and release. Then WB is in an even worse position.Era is vastly underestimating that general audiences give a shit about Ezra, and will go and see the movie anyways. Of course it'll make money. I honestly wouldn't doubt it if they go through with their marketing push and release the movie as planned. There's no legal, or moral obligation big enough for them to lose money over.
I don't care.You realize Discovery and Zaslav have only been in charge of this for two months? During that time the WarnerMedia CEO and WB film head are now gone.
Sadly, welcome to the real world. I know you want the scorched Earth approach, but there are a large number of people in this country that don't give a fuck about an attempted coup that happened just 18 months ago. You think the general public is going to give a fuck about some no name actor a year from now if inflation continues be an issue? Hell no.That seems like the responsible and reasonable thing to do, sure. Completely in line with what the crisis management people that were quoted on the OP too. /s
yeah, its not like they are going to stop."WB will wait it out"
Miller will likely have more shit on them by then.
Mostly I wonder what is going to happen to Miller in the longterm. They're just gonna keep hiding out I guess? How long can they do that, realistically? Are they just done with Hollywood?
Prison. And yes, they are done in Hollywood, hopefully no one gets hurt before they are put into custody, mostly their victims that might unfortunately be working as their cohorts at this point. The whole thing reeks like the whole sex traffic ring that Smallville's Allison Mack was involved, the leader of that thing will rot in prison. Hopefully Miller can be stopped before anyone is killed.Mostly I wonder what is going to happen to Miller in the longterm. They're just gonna keep hiding out I guess? How long can they do that, realistically? Are they just done with Hollywood?
And was actively trying to groom a 12-year-old with horses since last February:So wait, they are essentially missing with an 18 year old right now?! Wtf
I can somewhat understand WB and Ezra's agents and mangers staying silent and not being vocal about dropping them right now. Considering Ezra is HEAVILY armed and still has at least one of their victims with them. Waiting until everyone is known to be safe might be the safest approach right now.
But what message does it send putting out a movie that children will be fans of and want to see, where the star has news articles about grooming children?
$200 million or not. I don't see how WB can have a marketing campaign for a comic superhero movie where the lead, the star, has news stories about them grooming 12 year olds. What company will want to put out Happy Meal toys for this movie? Lego sets? Even if Ezra is not involved with promotion, what sort of questions will journalists ask the other actors?
Cancel it. Or cut Ezra out. Both are expensive dooms day scenarios but I don't think they have any good options to salvage it with Ezra in it.
Sorry about that. Edited my mistake.
You have no idea. Ezra is rightfully fucked with the general public, this isn't something about a "bubble". Keeping Amber Heard or having Johnny Depp at the height of when he was accused of being an wife beater is not the same thing of having a pedophile running a sex cult disguised as an witch coven fighting the KKK and the evil mainstream media. Whitney Suters is a close Ezra Miller friend that lives with them and it's spewing trumpist shit lke don't believe the media on a video they posted yesterday on Instagram that has been now taken down.
Ezra is done. And the right thing that Zaslav has to do here is stop being a cheap asshole and take the loss, order Muschetti to recast Miller and reshoot the Flash scenes the more efficient way possible. Releasing as it is and ignoring what is going on it's not an option.
Yes, this is another point some seem to forget. There is an element of public safety involved in this whole situation. Publicly firing someone who is running around waiving handguns at people doesn't seem like the smartest thing to do right now. Let them be detained, questioned, etc. before doing something that could further escalate the situation.I think this is a key point, things could go badly if WB actually do axe Ezra, the film etc. and that sets Ezra further off before the girl is safe and Ezra taken in by the authorties. The latter needs to happen before WB annouce what they are going to do. Maybe in the background they have some options planned like refilming some parts, new actor, CGI wizardry or scrapping it, we just don't know.
Not technically missing. There are reports on their current whereabouts. The "missing" part comes from the court not being able to serve the orders.So wait, they are essentially missing with an 18 year old right now?! Wtf
This is an unprecedented situation for a blockbuster of this type. I'd argue that "managing costs" with something so damning would be a disaster to Warner Bros. Discovery even worse than reshooting the whole thing from scratch, what regardless of what they claim in the leaks, I doubt it would be necessary.I agree with you, yeah, on most counts. Even on the right thing to do here. Except I don't think they'll do that. I think they're going to bet that it's better for them financially to release the movie. Even if the movie bombs from bad press they'd still minimize their loses with whatever ticket sales they do get. Maybe they'll delay it until Ezra is jailed or whatever, but there's no way they're going to bin the movie and lose 200m (which is what recasting and reshooting would amount to).
And here we go again, this time an NBC Reporter talking with the 12-year-old non-binary kid's parent that Ezra Miller was trying to groom by offering them horses to ride at their sex cult ring farm disguised as pseudo-progressive witchcraft coven at their Vermont farm, beyond new information about Gibson's / Tokata's grooming by their parents and other witnesses:
Still amazing that WB blacklisted Ray Fischer and is mum on this.
Yeah you are right. And I'm sure Ezra will have their own supporters.There are people who will go to watch it. Hell, there are people who will campaign for free for the movie online, saying "the movie is great", "don't believe fake news!". You don't know how deranged Snyder cultists can be.
This is some apologist non sense for a major big studio like Warner Bros. Discovery. I don't think what people are demanding on social media is unreasonable at all: take the loss and recast Ezra Miller. Done. Short and simple. Writing us an essay to tell us how poor Warner Bros. has nothing they can do but still enabling a child abuser is rich, to say the least.WB should have made the hard decisions earlier. Discovery and Zaslav took this over two months ago. Since then, the WarnerMedia CEO is gone, and so is the WB film chief, and they've delayed the movie release.
I doubt they'll shelve an essentially completed very expensive movie, and apparently reshooting with another actor is not a practical option. So they'll presumably cut Ezra from future projects, cut them from film marketing barring major changes and a big apology tour, and decide later this year whether to spend a lot on marketing like any typical superhero movie, or spend nothing and just quietly dump it to HBO Max.
WBD could put out a PR about this today, but let's be honest, short of shelving the movie now and taking a $100M+ write-off, that's just empty talk and those wanting the film canceled would say it's not enough anyway. And if does end up quietly dumped to HBO Max, the people who demand it be shelved today will always have the option of never watching it.
I don't think that person is being an apologist?This is some apologist non sense for a major big studio like Warner Bros. Discovery. I don't think what people are demanding on social media is unreasonable at all: take the loss and recast Ezra Miller. Done. Short and simple. Writing us an essay to tell us how poor Warner Bros. has nothing they can do but still enabling a child abuser is rich, to say the least.
Talking about their options is "apologist nonsense"? OK.This is some apologist non sense for a major big studio like Warner Bros. Discovery. I don't think what people are demanding on social media is unreasonable at all: take the loss and recast Ezra Miller. Done. Short and simple. Writing us an essay to tell us how poor Warner Bros. has nothing they can do but still enabling a child abuser is rich, to say the least.
I fully expect them to release it as normal because fuck doing the right thing when money's on the line, but the right thing to do is to reshoot the movie. This Ezra shit has gone from "they're a bit of a weirdo" to "they're a complete lunatic who probably needs to be arrested" in record time and it's not going away. Yeah it's going to be a financial fuckup considering how much work that is but with what's going on that should be what they do. But like I say, I expect them to fight against that scenario tooth and nail.
I don't think that person is being an apologist?
Reads to me like they're simply summarising what WB might be thinking.
Talking about their options is "apologist nonsense"? OK.
On the subject of nonsense, it has been posted repeatedly in this topic that reshooting with another actor is not only not possible, but it's also far far far from the "short and simple" solution you claim.
WBD could put out a PR about this today, but let's be honest, short of shelving the movie now and taking a $100M+ write-off, that's just empty talk and those wanting the film canceled would say it's not enough anyway. And if does end up quietly dumped to HBO Max, the people who demand it be shelved today will always have the option of never watching it.
I just wanted to point out that a year IS a long time. However, Ezra's odd and dangerous behavior has been getting worse and faster. Who knows what the hell they will have done a year from now, how many arrests, how many children we will have found to have been groomed by them.Unless Ezra shoots someone with the firearms they've been carrying around, this movie is coming out in theaters. The movie is still OVER A YEAR away from releasing in theaters, that is a lot of time for a lot of shit to go on in the world.. and frankly with the way news gets burned through with the 24/7/365 newscyle, this will be a distant memory to most by the middle of July. Warner Bros will announce Ezra is no longer involved prior to the film releasing and Ezra won't be on the press tour.