CNN: New evidence suggests Jussie Smollett orchestrated attack (Check Threadmarks / Staff Posts) (UPDATE: Now a suspect)

jontin · Feb 18, 2019

Jiggy said:
Imagine fighting these dudes off single-handedly

Hey! That's an insensitive joke according to the last thread lol

these guys seem to have a healthy following on insta, I'm hoping they're good people and don't have their lives ruined by this whole debacle.

NinjaScooter · Feb 18, 2019

AcademicSaucer said:
Lol, why would he cast them as MAGA anti-black racists? LMAO

They were never going to be seen/caught, so it wouldn't have mattered what they looked like. It's not like if he hired white dudes things would be more believable at this point. They would have rolled on him just as easy. Nobody is taking a charge for this dude for $3500.

bill crystals said:
That makes no sense because he was starring on a hit TV show and was already incredibly famous. In before "I'VE never heard of him."

Unless you are Tom Cruise or Will Smith, you can always get more famous, and more rich. The celebrity/Hollywood lifestyle is fucking warped. Im not surprised someone would do this, if anything i'm surprised shit like this doesn't happen more often, or it probably does but those celebs/publicists are better at covering it up.

marrec · Feb 18, 2019

bill crystals said:
That makes no sense because he was starring on a hit TV show and was already incredibly famous. In before "I'VE never heard of him."

That's why it's pathological, dude had a nice career ahead of him and threw it all away cause it wasn't enough.

Ra · Feb 18, 2019

Biggest revelation for me? I guess I'm embarrassed to have assumed that lynching was long ago made a hate crime. Da fuck?

Powdered Egg · Feb 18, 2019

Jiggy said:
Imagine fighting these dudes off single-handedly

Lmao, I don't think Jussie would be alive if it were a real fight. All 3 can probably get in legal trouble once the hoax is exposed. Waste of police resources and two White dudes could have gotten arrested over it.

TheGhost · Feb 18, 2019

K.Jack said:
Biggest revelation for me? I guess I'm embarrassed to have assumed that lynching was long ago made a hate crime. Da fuck?

Yeah you would think that was something done decades ago but I guess I shouldn't be too surprised that it's 2019 and we still don't have common sense laws.

oneils · Feb 18, 2019

K.Jack said:
Biggest revelation for me? I guess I'm embarrassed to have assumed that lynching was long ago made a hate crime. Da fuck?

A lynching is an execution by mob. It is not necessarily an execution of black men by white men. A lynching is already illegal.

If white men lynched a black man because he was black, I believe, it would be both murder and a hate crime. im not a lawyer, though.

shintoki · Feb 18, 2019

Jiggy said:
Imagine fighting these dudes off single-handedly

When your attackers are Jojo and Kenshiro.

SlothmanAllen · Feb 18, 2019

Why the fuck would he do this? He must have some seriously fucked up mental issues to pay people to attack him for... reasons?

17 Seconds · Feb 18, 2019

entremet said:
Hopefully the brothers don't get charged. Seemed like some hardworking dudes trying to make it and struggling to do so.

and who here hasn't staged a hate crime for personal gain

Deleted member 9100 · Feb 18, 2019

The rumor now is that Jussie's motive was the death threat he received in the mail didn't get enough attention.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sou...aw2VIbtIJIHuZKMpDk_-qPvR&ust=1550626087363309

Japanmanx3 · Feb 18, 2019

Powdered Egg said:
Waste of police resources and two White dudes could have gotten arrested over it.

Lol whoa dere...

Phonzo · Feb 18, 2019

TAH3145 said:
The rumor now is that Jussie's motive was the death threat he received in the mail didn't get enough attention.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sou...aw2VIbtIJIHuZKMpDk_-qPvR&ust=1550626087363309

So this is how hes going to play it now huh. This is getting sadder and sadder

entremet · Feb 18, 2019

17 Seconds said:
and who here hasn't staged a hate crime for personal gain

Not excusing them, but apparently they were in massive debt and had cashflow issues. Jussie allegedly paid them 3700. They probably can't afford lawyers like Jussie. It just feels wrong. They made their choice, but it comes off as exploitative if true.

Wolfgunblood · Feb 18, 2019

Now I can start to rationalize this story to help diminish how upsetting it is.

There are too many layers, I'm not sure which aspect to it bothers me the most to even know where to start.

El Bombastico · Feb 18, 2019

TAH3145 said:
The rumor now is that Jussie's motive was the death threat he received in the mail didn't get enough attention.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjxu5m60sbgAhXxYd8KHf3gCCwQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/02/18/jussie-smollet-motive-staged-attack/&psig=AOvVaw2VIbtIJIHuZKMpDk_-qPvR&ust=1550626087363309

Christ, this is just like the Law & Order episode...

Boiled Goose · Feb 18, 2019

Powdered Egg said:
Waste of police resources and two White dudes could have gotten arrested over it.

Umm. Wat.

Powdered Egg · Feb 18, 2019

Boiled Goose said:
Umm. Wat.

He blamed two white attackers. If this indeed a hoax, police could have arrested two innocent people.

Commedieu · Feb 18, 2019

Powdered Egg said:
He blamed two white attackers. If this indeed a hoax, police could have arrested two innocent people.

yep you're right.

And they'd be alive to prove it wasn't them, after getting their mcdonalds.

Unlike when the police execute black people all the time for fitting general descriptions, like having wide noses, which has a legacy since the inception of the police department.

So true though, they could have been inconvenienced for an hour, let go, and maybe sued.

Ra · Feb 18, 2019

Powdered Egg said:
He blamed two white attackers. If this indeed a hoax, police could have arrested two innocent people.

I promise you the police do not mobilize to raid the streets en masse, and harass every white dude who may have jumped a black guy, like they do in opposite situations.

I mean we can see that it obviously didn't happen here, when this incident seemed to have actually occurred.

Kin5290 · Feb 18, 2019

Powdered Egg said:
He blamed two white attackers. If this indeed a hoax, police could have arrested two innocent people.

Eh, the "white guy in a red truck" who allegedly shot into a packed car full of black girls and women and shot a little girl in the head out of apparently pure racist animus (who later turned out to be a white guy in a red truck who was trying to flee the scene of a gang shooting) turned out to be fine, and the cops were looking for him over murder, not assault.

Storm Chamber · Feb 18, 2019

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/02/18/jussie-smollet-motive-staged-attack/

The blockbuster revelation into at least part of Smollett's potential motive comes two days after CBS 2's Charlie De Mar reported Smollett and two brothers — Ola and Abel Osundairo — staged the attack on Jan. 29 in Streeterville.

De Mar spoke on the phone exclusively with the Osundairo brothers Monday afternoon. In a joint statement, they said: "We are not racist. We are not homophobic and we are not anti-Trump. We were born and raised in Chicago and are American citizens."

Smollett received a letter containing a white powder Jan. 22. The letter was mailed to Chicago's Cinespace Studios, where the show "Empire" is filmed. The letter prompted a HAZMAT response. CPD says the "white substance" was later determined to be aspirin.

Sorry if old but wow

TheIlliterati · Feb 18, 2019

shintoki said:
When your attackers are Jojo and Kenshiro.

What's amazing is they're both just 15 years old in anime years.

Detective Loki · Feb 18, 2019

Done goofed

Knew something was up

Amiablepercy · Feb 18, 2019

TAH3145 said:
The rumor now is that Jussie's motive was the death threat he received in the mail didn't get enough attention.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjxu5m60sbgAhXxYd8KHf3gCCwQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/02/18/jussie-smollet-motive-staged-attack/&psig=AOvVaw2VIbtIJIHuZKMpDk_-qPvR&ust=1550626087363309

I view this as irrelevant. The crime began when the hoax began. If this is a hoax I don't think the authorities or the public should show him any quarter.

SubvertedTrope · Feb 18, 2019

Amiablepercy said:
I view this as irrelevant. The crime began when the hoax began. If this is a hoax I don't think the authorities or the public should show him any quarter.

Actually the crime did not begin with the hoax, I'm pretty sure sending pretend anthrax is a federal crime.

Amiablepercy · Feb 18, 2019

SubvertedTrope said:
Actually the crime did not begin with the hoax, I'm pretty sure sending pretend anthrax is a federal crime.

Jussie's alleged Crimes. Obviously whoever sent anthrax should be dealt with by the police and prosecuted.

SubvertedTrope · Feb 18, 2019

Storm Chamber said:
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/02/18/jussie-smollet-motive-staged-attack/

Omg that letter is so ridiculous and unintentionally hilarious, it looks like a kindergarten class project.

kmfdmpig · Feb 18, 2019

TAH3145 said:
The rumor now is that Jussie's motive was the death threat he received in the mail didn't get enough attention.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjxu5m60sbgAhXxYd8KHf3gCCwQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/02/18/jussie-smollet-motive-staged-attack/&psig=AOvVaw2VIbtIJIHuZKMpDk_-qPvR&ust=1550626087363309

If the letter arrived on 1/22 in the afternoon and he hatched the plan, rehearsed it and staged the fake attack early in the morning on 1/29 then that's a lot to plan through and do in such a short period of time. Granted, it wasn't an Ocean's Eleven level plan that he hatched, but still, it seems like a very short period to go from receiving a threatening letter to staging a fake attack. Not sure I buy it, not that it exonerates him anyways.

hendersonhank · Feb 18, 2019

Particle Physicist said:
That is not correct. It wasn't an internet rumor. That was the reason given by the 'sources' that specifically mentioned why they think he did this.

Officially the police had denied everything other than they need to talk to him again due to the interview from the brothers.

What legitimate news outlets reported that he did it because he was getting fired?

Deleted member 9100 · Feb 18, 2019

kmfdmpig said:
If the letter arrived on 1/22 in the afternoon and he hatched the plan, rehearsed it and staged the fake attack early in the morning on 1/29 then that's a lot to plan through and do in such a short period of time. Granted, it wasn't an Ocean's Eleven level plan that he hatched, but still, it seems like a very short period to go from receiving a threatening letter to staging a fake attack. Not sure I buy it, not that it exonerates him anyways.

Well that may be why the plan was so terrible. But at this point, who knows. I'm sure more information will come out in the coming days.

Boiled Goose · Feb 18, 2019

Powdered Egg said:
He blamed two white attackers. If this indeed a hoax, police could have arrested two innocent people.

Yes. Innocent is the important qualifier. Not their race...

Powdered Egg · Feb 19, 2019

Boiled Goose said:
Yes. Innocent is the important qualifier. Not their race...

Lol ok I see where I goofed now.

Mulciber · Feb 19, 2019

K.Jack said:
Biggest revelation for me? I guess I'm embarrassed to have assumed that lynching was long ago made a hate crime. Da fuck?

TheGhost said:
Yeah you would think that was something done decades ago but I guess I shouldn't be too surprised that it's 2019 and we still don't have common sense laws.

I think it's mostly that everything that is involved in lynching legislation is already illegal. Or to put it another way, lynching is murder/violence, and that's illegal.

The sponsors of this new bill, the Justice for Victims of Lynching Act of 2018, have said this new legislation is mostly symbolic. It's to recognize that America has a horrific history with lynching. The bill has specific language in it addressing this history. It's not exclusively symbolic, though. One thing it will accomplish is to expand the federal maximum sentencing in the case of murder hate crimes with two or more perpetrators and set a 10 year minimum for "bodily harm."

Boiled Goose · Feb 19, 2019

Powdered Egg said:
Lol ok I see where I goofed now.

Perhaps time for some self reflection.

I KILL PXLS · Feb 19, 2019

My original comment in the original thread is extra funny in this new context.

This story is so cartoonish sounding that it almost sounds staged. Or like a scene from Empire. Even has a note with cut out letters. This shit is nuts and disturbing.

JustinP · Feb 19, 2019

El Bombastico said:
Christ, this is just like the Law & Order episode...

Ha, that's exactly what it reminds me of

BouncyFrag · Feb 19, 2019

The more we find out about this case, the louder this sounds in my mind.

Rocket Schnauzer · Feb 19, 2019

Particle Physicist · Feb 19, 2019

hendersonhank said:
What legitimate news outlets reported that he did it because he was getting fired?

The same ones that keep reporting these other rumored motives.

https://www.tvinsider.com/753061/jussie-smollett-fired-empire-staged-attack/amp/

https://deadline.com/2019/02/jussie...ect-chicago-police-cnn-empire-1202559032/amp/

http://amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/feb/14/jussie-smollett-staged-attack-persons-interest-was/

https://www.inquisitr.com/5297469/jussie-smollett-accused-staging-attacked-fired-empire/amp/

https://abc7.com/amp/police-new-evi...investigation-2-brothers-cooperating/5141900/

https://people.com/tv/fox-denies-jussie-smollett-written-off-empire-apparent-hate-crime/amp/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life...paid-stage-jussie-smollett-attack/2895099002/

Etc.

I mean, it's why Fox addressed it almost immediately and said he was not being written off the show. They wouldn't have done that if it was just random internet rumors.

Kreed · Feb 19, 2019

The Flop said:
https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/201...-at-jussie-smollett-with-spoof-movie-posters/

New posters put up by street artist mocking him.

Just from the alt-right slant of the art and mocking two Black films I knew it was that conservative artist troll before I clicked the link.

KCS said:
The Democract candidate behind the anti-lynching bill. The look on her face is priceless.

Of course Fox News asks this.

TAH3145 said:
The rumor now is that Jussie's motive was the death threat he received in the mail didn't get enough attention.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjxu5m60sbgAhXxYd8KHf3gCCwQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/02/18/jussie-smollet-motive-staged-attack/&psig=AOvVaw2VIbtIJIHuZKMpDk_-qPvR&ust=1550626087363309

The letter situation needs more clarification from these police insiders for their story to match up. So far, the insiders have only claimed the two brothers told them Smollett hired them for the attack and how much money they were paid for the attack. They don't say the brothers told them they were also in on the letters, but the police took magazines and stamps from the brothers' home likely as evidence for the letters. If the rumor you posted is true and the magazines/stamps were relevant evidence, then the brothers would have been hired twice.

Lemoncholy · Feb 19, 2019

Powdered Egg said:
He blamed two white attackers. If this indeed a hoax, police could have arrested two innocent people.

In the 16 minute Good Morning America interview, he says that he never claimed the attackers were white. He says that he only saw one man's face, and he had a full mask on, just a slit for eyes and not enough to determine race. Of course we do not know what he told the police earlier. I would guess it was widely reported that two white men were blamed due to assumptions based on the "MAGA country" statement.

Goodstyle · Feb 19, 2019

http://www.tmz.com/#!article/2019/02/19/jussie-smollett-empire-role-slashed-alleged-attack/

Jussie's no good very bad week continues with his role in Empire getting slashed down in the coming episodes.

TheGhost · Feb 19, 2019

Goodstyle said:
http://www.tmz.com/#!article/2019/02/19/jussie-smollett-empire-role-slashed-alleged-attack/

Jussie's no good very bad week continues with his role in Empire getting slashed down in the coming episodes.

Lee Daniels no longer considering him his son I guess.

Phonzo · Feb 19, 2019

TheGhost said:
Lee Daniels no longer considering him his son I guess.

Downgraded to step son

Watchtower · Feb 19, 2019

Jiggy said:
Imagine fighting these dudes off single-handedly

shintoki said:
When your attackers are Jojo and Kenshiro.

Carolina Reaper · Feb 19, 2019

Goodstyle said:
http://www.tmz.com/#!article/2019/02/19/jussie-smollett-empire-role-slashed-alleged-attack/

Jussie's no good very bad week continues with his role in Empire getting slashed down in the coming episodes.

So he IS being written out of the show.

jett · Feb 19, 2019

Goodstyle said:
http://www.tmz.com/#!article/2019/02/19/jussie-smollett-empire-role-slashed-alleged-attack/

Jussie's no good very bad week continues with his role in Empire getting slashed down in the coming episodes.

Fisty · Feb 19, 2019

Didn't want to risk a ban in the original thread for calling the initial report very suspicious, but yeah it didn't really add up. The fact a couple white dudes were walking around downtown Chicago at night with a bottle of bleach and a rope looking to commit a hate crime and recognized a guy from a TV show that they likely wouldnt be watching on principle just sounded... well... fishy lol

NookSports · Feb 19, 2019

Fisty said:
Didn't want to risk a ban in the original thread for calling the initial report very suspicious, but yeah it didn't really add up. The fact a couple white dudes were walking around downtown Chicago at night with a bottle of bleach and a rope looking to commit a hate crime and recognized a guy from a TV show that they likely wouldnt be watching on principle just sounded... well... fishy lol

It seemed strange, but there's been stalkers that have done weirder stuff

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