They had to lay off many people before, but now it's confirmed that the company is done.
I wasn't a huge Drawn to Death fan, but I appreciated his doing something different, and I feel badly for his coworkers/friends at the company.
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David Jaffe's company Bartlet Jones is closing
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They had to lay off many people before, but now it's confirmed that the company is done.
I wasn't a huge Drawn to Death fan, but I appreciated his doing something different, and I feel badly for his coworkers/friends at the company.
Wishing all the best to David and all his coworkers.
I hope he manages to create a hit soon, he seems like a great guy.
I hope he manages to create a hit soon, he seems like a great guy.
I'm sorry for the people who lost their jobs. David Jaffe's time might be over, but his contribution should not be forgotten. Drawn to death was dull and basic as a master system arcade game tho.
I didn't care for drawn to death at all but come on is that really all you got for ppl unfortunately losing their positions
It's possible Jaffe hurt him.
https://pietriots.com/2012/02/07/breaking-news-david-jaffe-is-scum/#comment-3468
that comment said:
I'll not have you besmirch the Master System's good name by comparing it to Drawn to Death.
Bring him back to make Twisted Metal.
The IP has huge potential with the focus on online gaming and battle royal.
Just make it more like Twisted Metal 2, bring back classic stages and vehicles.
The IP has huge potential with the focus on online gaming and battle royal.
Just make it more like Twisted Metal 2, bring back classic stages and vehicles.
WTF is wrong with some of you people? People lost their jobs and all you're interested in is shitting on Jaffe. This isn't the place for cheap insults or rants from disgruntled ex-employees.
Hopefully everyone lands on their feet.
Artistically cool but a F2P shooter like this was the wrong move.
Go back to action adventure Jaffe.
Hope everyone lands on their feet.
Go back to action adventure Jaffe.
Hope everyone lands on their feet.
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The strange thing about the page is it omits God of War from his resume and includes Twisted Metal 3 and 4, which he wasn't involved in.
I don't even know who that guy is, but that article is really, really bad.
Poor guys.
Hope they land on their feet.
I hope Sony scoop Jaffe up again. I really want him to make another AAA action/adventure game.
Wish i was lucky enough to get that Kratos statue :(
Hope they land on their feet.
I hope Sony scoop Jaffe up again. I really want him to make another AAA action/adventure game.
Wish i was lucky enough to get that Kratos statue :(
No need for this, people lost their jobs. Show a little respect.
Perhaps it is time to discuss Jaffe and re-evaluate his achievements in the light of two mediocre games which took 10 years to build. If you want to wish good luck to the employees, you are free to do so. However, the loss of jobs isn't the force of nature, it is a clear consequence of the quality of their collective work which was absolutely terrible if we are talking about Drawn to Death.
If 20 construction workers build a house which collapses, you don't just say good luck to the people who build the house on other projects, it is perfectly reasonable to debate why and how it happened. Was it the architect? Were the workers unqualified for the job? Did they run out of resources for the bearing walls?
Huh, this thread made me realize that I'm blocked on twitter by Jaffe and I have never ever interacted with him. Weird.
Hopefully the people that worked there will transition to other places smoothly. Drawn to Death was really fun but it had balancing issues and the focus on the online multiplayer was quite a shame. I had a lot of fun playing through that one tutorial stage, I honestly think that if the game had a singleplayer 4-6 hour mode full of that insane over the top action and crass humor it would've been much more popular.
Not happening. Jaffe is done with AAA games.
If you want to have that discussion, make a thread. This isn't the fucking place for it.
Oh and comparing building a house to making a game is utterly absurd.
I'd love a Twisted Metal 2 remaster. A legitimate, true game made by someone who loves the franchise and where it came from. TM PS3 was a good game, but a bad Twisted Metal game.
Yeah but why did they decide to make something like Drawn to Death in the frist place? This had guaranteed failure written all over it from the very beginning.
Aw, that's too bad. I hope everyone lands on their feet and that Jaffe will go on to make something that connects with audiences again. Best luck to everyone affected by this.
I'm guessing this means we'll have an announcement for Drawn to Death shutting down real soon then?
It seems like Jaffe has had a knack for making games that no one but himself wants to play since he left Sony. Even the Twisted Metal revival that he worked on had little love for it.
It seems like Jaffe has had a knack for making games that no one but himself wants to play since he left Sony. Even the Twisted Metal revival that he worked on had little love for it.
How about you make a thread if you want to write your feels about employees losing jobs in the safe space, there is nothing in the thread which suggests that I shouldn't discuss why the studio failed.
Please tell me how there should be no accountability for game developers, I would like to hear other jobs where projects just lose multi-millions investments, but employees are never at fault.
It says a lot when Calling All Cars is Jaffe's best game since God of War. I dont hate Twisted Metal PS3 but the online was a mess.
Hes one of those devs whos most defining game is old as hell and all their future endeavors never reach that peak. Kind of like Warren Spector.
Hes one of those devs whos most defining game is old as hell and all their future endeavors never reach that peak. Kind of like Warren Spector.
I loved Drawn to Death and it is sad the majority of people expected the game to handhold them.
The game truly was a skill vs skill competition.
The game truly was a skill vs skill competition.
Wasn't there mention of conversations with Santa Monica before Barlog even came back with Jaffe?
They're wrapping up GoW, it'll be hitting cert in a couple of weeks presumably. Vacations, then it's time to start working on the first PS5 title, and they're going to really want to make sure they get two out next-gen, presumably one of them to be a new IP.
I think like anything, stars need to align just right, and it looks like it might.
Part of Jaffe's issue with AAA development was financial. He didn't feel like it was worth the social cost of not seeing his kids for the money he was making. Going solo can't have been making him that much more given the performance of those titles and the fate of those studios, and presumably given GoW was thirteen years ago, those children are now adults.
I could see him coming back, and I'd like to, but who knows.
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If the gameplay were tighter, I think it could have found a bigger niche in the market. It looked a lot different and fresh to me, a different take on arena shooters.
Let's see if any stories show up from ex-employees who have things to say about how David Jaffe ran the studio. They weren't particularly kind last time around.
Sucks when this kinda stuff happens.
But now is the time Sony, get Jaffe on a new Twisted Metal game asap.
But now is the time Sony, get Jaffe on a new Twisted Metal game asap.
He called Calling all cars! a mistake, his best work and the only thing I ever bought from them. :)
MP was ace.
MP was ace.
