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DEATH STRANDING - Spoiler Thread
- Thread starter vestan
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I don't see how this should be relevant. If he didn't like the game that much and has explained why, who cares if he plays mostly on PC tbh. I can make the opposite and disregard all the opinions from posters with DS /PS avatars as they are also biased.
I mean, the important thing here is that none of the "leaked" reviews tackles the main fear I (and lots of players) have with this game: too much walking and not enough interesting gameplay activities.
What proof do we have that the guy posting these screens isn't just lifting them from another leaker?
I'll wait to see the overall reviews and how they tend to describe the whole experience tbh. I can't judge the whole game from just one (non confirmed) person like that supposed early review of GOW that gave it 7 and the person bashed the game that much and look how things turned to be.
I forgot who it was (it's not an official reviewer though), but his God of War 2018 review score 8.5 out of 10 I think...?
And yeah, the final MC score for that game is way much better.
IIIRC the person didn't even finish the game (something like the reviewer confirming only 1 weapon and other details that were wrong), if you're talking about the review that I remember (from a really small niche website, rushed review from an early copy). I don't know how much I can trust this DS leaker of course, and obviously opinions will differ between reviewers. But I don't think we should start disregarding opinions either, as you've said we will see in a few weeks.
Was it a 8.5? I forgot tbh. I remember that he bashed gameplay and especially the story that he thought was so shallow. Some could differ in opinions about gameplay but everyone agrees GOW story was its strongest point though.
I recall the 8.5 guy was the one gave his leaked videos with watermark after some, even Cory himself, doubted him.
I think it's called WTFGaming or WTFGamer?
Anyway, he's not an official reviewer and the game got MC & OC scores it deserves, in my humble opinion.
It seems a Discord admin has deleted all the leak messages from the 2 confirmed leakers, so maybe Sony pushed them to delete all the leaked content.
Overall, they seem to imply that the game has not many narrative surprises and is quite straitghforward, that the cutscenes/music tracks are geat and that some plot points are unresolved.
Overall, they seem to imply that the game has not many narrative surprises and is quite straitghforward, that the cutscenes/music tracks are geat and that some plot points are unresolved.
The person who gave the info and screenshots asked the admin to delete his stuff.
Yep, both of them. I don't know if Sony has noticed it and requested a takedown, or if the 2 users decided to prevent any action from Sony doing it in advance. Or maybe simply they were being bombarbed with messaged and got fed up.
From Discord:
"im going to bed. the story up to chapter 4, Higgs is painted as the villian, Amelia wants you to connect the world so you travel node to node activating them. Great Music, awesome cutscenes, story interesting. Gameplay boring. If something gonna hold it it'll be everything else outside of gameplay"
From the same user:
" i apogize to everyone, it wasn't to spread "oh this game is bad" if i like the game i will post it, but so far I just dont know what they were thinking with this gameplay and trying to pass it off as a new genre to excuse it "
" i really did want to like this game. They could have trimmed a ton of fat "
"im going to bed. the story up to chapter 4, Higgs is painted as the villian, Amelia wants you to connect the world so you travel node to node activating them. Great Music, awesome cutscenes, story interesting. Gameplay boring. If something gonna hold it it'll be everything else outside of gameplay"
From the same user:
" i apogize to everyone, it wasn't to spread "oh this game is bad" if i like the game i will post it, but so far I just dont know what they were thinking with this gameplay and trying to pass it off as a new genre to excuse it "
" i really did want to like this game. They could have trimmed a ton of fat "
From 4chan:
First impressions from an Arabic media/journalist
1- The game feels alot like PT
2- The game is amazing but not for everyone
3- After a few hours the game changes dramatically
4- The cutscenes are as long as the ones in MGS4
This shit is all over the place, I guess we just have to wait until November 1st.
First impressions from an Arabic media/journalist
1- The game feels alot like PT
2- The game is amazing but not for everyone
3- After a few hours the game changes dramatically
4- The cutscenes are as long as the ones in MGS4
This shit is all over the place, I guess we just have to wait until November 1st.
This plus Ryckerts cryptic impressions have me skeptical if I'll enjoy the game at all.
I just can't believe Kojima would put a game with bad gameplay of all things. So much is riding on this game for him and his team.
i know this one he is not a journalist at all what he right on this twitter was
First impressions for the Game (he was referring to what was written here)
only 3 Arab journalist have the game 2 of the on MC and OC
Sony must be sweating right now. I wonder how much cash they spent in the game.
Okay, thank you.
Okay, thank you.
In my case, I will need to wait until 8th because there's no way I'm trusting professional critics at this point.
From the 3-4 leakes in Discord, all of them are unhappy with the gameplay and all of them are happy with the music/cutscenes, so I can see a trend from the little info we have. One of the leakers said tha the plot has some unresolved lines and that there's a lack of big surprises , but this is only 1 user at the moment.
Considering how many hours of cutscenes there are (about 10 if leakers are accurate), all the big name actors and the open world focus, it wouldn't surprise me if Kojima burned all the money and didn't have time/resources to polish the gameplay and make it interesting.
And with this I'll disregard everything he says, it's clear the narrative he's trying to push.
Enlighten us why you don't trust critics but random people on the internet? And hopefully this is for every game.
Gameplay is why I play Kojima games...worried about these impressions, hope this aint a good story tied up in boring gameplay. I'll just YouTube it if that's the case.
Hope it turns out good, but If these hot takes aren't legit they certainly did research into how to make it believable.
Hope it turns out good, but If these hot takes aren't legit they certainly did research into how to make it believable.
Oh look another one of those "Kojima games are actually bad, but get good reviews because the media is full of Kojima fanboys. People who hate his games are the real unbiased gamers who tell the truth!"
If I had a dime every time I see a post like that I would be very rich.
I don't trust most critics because I've read too many reviews, too many lies in those reviews and too many shallow reviews that are clearly rushed to be ready for day one. It's not that I trust the random Discord posters more than any review, is that this it the only info we have right now and it matches what I felt watching the long gameplay session. Until I play the game I won't know how I feel about it obviously.
So far we have some people who is unsure about the game, some people that seems to be leaning towards negativity and some people towards positivity. All of them have no idea about how the full experience is, while some random guys on Discord have already played some chapters and can serve to dissipate some doubts. No more no less.
Obviously I respect more that opinion than some fanboy who thinks that the game will be the best thing ever and tries to convince all the people that Kojima can't do wrong, sadly the discord is filled with people with this mindset that are already disregarding opinions as "they won't count for the Metacritic score" which is the saddest thing ever.
I have a hard time believing the gameplay is bad. I mean this guy did MGS V, which is amazing in therms of gameplay.
What I think it's happening is that people aren't enjoying the gameplay because it's not focused on shooting things and more on managing stuff like balance, cargo weight, planning trips, etc.
What I think it's happening is that people aren't enjoying the gameplay because it's not focused on shooting things and more on managing stuff like balance, cargo weight, planning trips, etc.
I'm not sure what reviews you're reading that are lying about their feelings, are you confusing people who like things that you don't like as lying? Taking the words of people here or discord but not reviewers doesn't really make sense since they are all opinions.
This is my take too. It's literally a AAA courier/walking simulator and seems some people went in expecting there to be aspects to a strong combat focus when that was never promised or even hinted towards. Even when we did see combat, it didn't look particularly impressive, that should have been enough to let everyone know where the focus was.
It's a courier sim, literally the first of its kind. It's a brand new genre, so Kojima wasn't lying. Some just weren't paying attention and expected the game to be something it never claimed to ever be.
Isn't this game going to be by default much more interesting when millions of people are playing it (online features)?
