White people do love that movie for some reason.
White people do love that movie for some reason.
so if pete and klob didnt run these voters would have voted for sanders instead of biden?
Usually it's the one with the fewer votes who's splitting the vote, but ok.I think the biggest news of the day is that Warren got 50 delegates. The Liz surge is real! Bernie should drop out and stop splitting the progressive vote.
Biden can beat TrumpThere is no way Biden wins against Trump.
Wasn't there a lesson learned with Hillary?
I was just refuting the idea of Biden's lack of money mattered at all. Those candidates spent money to campaign for the same centrist rethoric as Biden and ended endorsing him early enough in the race. Biden didn't really to spend money because there were like 4 other candidates doing so that ended converging into his campaign.
Warren solidified herself as the biggest joke of this primary season, but I guess we really shouldn't be surprised coming from someone who lied about their race, used to be a republican, voted to increase Trump's military budget, etc etc
She really sold her "soul" as a progressive, running away from M4A among other things, and for what? She was tied with new delegates with TULSI for most of the night. (1)
I'm talking about the "wave of young people and nonvoters" electoral theory that's been tested and failed 4 times in the past 5 years.I don't think you're right at all. But I hope you are.
"It'd be great if we could roll back a woman's right to her own body", "wouldn't it be swell if we could prevent non-white and/or poor people from immigrating here?", "it would be awesome if corporations got massive tax cuts and social safety nets got gutted simultaneously!"...
This is all trash that conservatives got hard over, but they seemed like pipe dreams... until they actually decided to come out and vote for people to implement it.
So I don't understand your comment about it being " Easier to believe in the thing that sounds good rather than acknowledge reality."... If there's a policy or structural change you think would benefit the community as a whole, vote for it! Support candidates that will implement it. The Right understands this but the moderate Left is busy wringing its hands over who the better foil to lose against Trump will be.
Bernie won't and shouldn't concede and Biden will not pick a progressive. He'll pick a establishment Moderate, maybe even someone of color, but someone still towing that centrist ideology.
It's pretty frustrating to watch people act like she didn't split the vote and they keep repeating the "Bernie has to earn her supporters" bullshit. Maybe we should take that same logic to the general and see what happens.Warren solidified herself as the biggest joke of this primary season, but I guess we really shouldn't be surprised coming from someone who lied about their race, used to be a republican, voted to increase Trump's military budget, etc etc
She really sold her "soul" as a progressive, running away from M4A among other things, and for what? She was tied with new delegates with TULSI for most of the night. (1)
Looks like it will soon be time for Bernie supporters to fall in line, as they so gleefully liked to tell supporters of other campaigns. Too bad the tidal wave of youth support was actually a squirt.
Wait for old people to die and all the racism and capitalism and corruption will be gone.
Oh shit there's still old people.
Where do all the old people keep coming from.
It's pretty frustrating to watch people act like she didn't split the vote and they keep repeating the "Bernie has to earn her supporters" bullshit. Maybe we should take that same logic to the general and see what happens.
I was just refuting the idea of Biden's lack of money mattered at all. Those candidates spent money to campaign for the same centrist rethoric as Biden and ended endorsing him early enough in the race. Biden didn't really to spend money because there were like 4 other candidates doing so that ended converging into his campaign.
I'm not doing it this time. I bent the knee in 2016 and the hubris of that campaign cost them the rust belt and the election. Liberals will scream about Russia and email scandal but the fact that she didn't bother to campaign in Michigan until the very end was very telling she expected a coronation.
Biden will continue to keep kids in cages and let people ration their insulin, because that's what he really stands for. Only this time it'll be ok because he won't be completely mask off so old people can feel good about themselves that they got rid of the loud man on Twitter.
Let's keep posting about what movies Pelosi watches though, thats integral to the Primaries!
Wait for old people to die and all the racism and capitalism and corruption will be gone.
Oh shit there's still old people.
Where do all the old people keep coming from.
Doesn't matter. I'm tired of people defending her.Bloomberg took more votes from Biden than Warren from Bernie and he still won.
Yep, Ivanka 2024.He doesn't need to though, he has plenty of kids who are eligible to run for president which will create the same effect.
It absolutely made a difference. Her dropping out and giving Bernie an endorsement would've most definitely improved his chances.Then what's your actual point? Her staying in made no real difference
Biden didn't spend money cause he was broke, had no fundraising and his campaign was considered dead.
Your premise is nonsencial. If Bernie can't beat a poorly run Biden+endorsements while Bloomberg is still siphoning off centrists votes then his campaign is bad.
Not entirely, but it's not the clean road we expected going into tonight.
It absolutely made a difference. Her dropping out and giving Bernie an endorsement would've most definitely improved his chances.
The amount of "moderates" on this site is only astounding if you paid no attention to the actual vote tonight and are still under the delusion that the left makes up a sizeable portion of the American electorate.The amount of moderates on this site is astounding. They'll go for the worst possible choice just because it's still marked as 'liberal'. Nah. It ain't liberal. They take the easy road out.
So Bernie can't beat a dead campaign with zero funds that is losing votes to Bloomberg but is the only candidate that can beat Trump. Makes sense.
doubt.Bet Warren drops tomorrow(Wednesday). Probably trying to work out a deal for endorsement with Bernie.
Not sure why she would do that considering Bernie is unlikely to win.Bet Warren drops tomorrow(Wednesday). Probably trying to work out a deal for endorsement with Bernie.
Not to mention her supporters may broke to BidenThe votes just don't reflect that it would have changed much of anything.
Either way it's a shitty move for her out of principle when she is supposedly supposed to be fighting for progressives.The votes just don't reflect that it would have changed much of anything.
You are also forgetting that he is not exactly a nobody, he was Obama's VP. He put the effort in the right place and then everything fell into place naturally.
If Bernie wanted more strategic endorsements maybe he shouldn't have fucking alienated 80% of the party
Disappointing but maybe not really surprising.... And I'll put it out there one of the biggest mistakes Sanders made... again, was campaigning against the Democratic Party while trying to win votes to be the leader of the Democratic Party.
It's interesting how so many went after Clinton for calling 50% of Trump voters deplorable, but think we're fighting the Democratic Party Establishment! is a great course of action.
Either way it's a shitty move for her out of principle when she is supposedly supposed to be fighting for progressives.
I fully expect her to endorse Biden.Bet Warren drops tomorrow(Wednesday). Probably trying to work out a deal for endorsement with Bernie.
Maybe 80% of the party should be more concerned about the American people than the sanctity of "the party".
The people who voted for Biden have a sincere belief that Biden has the best chance of beating Trump. I'm really not sure where this remark comes into play.