Bungie is fucking trash.
Really, these guys have been at this shit for 30 hours+ in some cases. To just...open it...is like...what the fuck. I'd rather they just slip someone a hint on the side than for these guys to just get no reward for all this time. Then again, this sums up Destiny 2 - Forsaken pretty neatly.
Alternately, they could have made it not damn near impossible.
don't worry, he'll be sleeping on a pile of money tonight. he doesn't give a fuck about the fatigue. He'd be at this another 20 hours if money kept flowing in like this.Gladd needs to just get off and get some sleep now. Dude has been up for way too long and there's no point in continuing knowing that the forge is gonna open in an hour and a half.
I mean the streamers won even in losing. Tens of thousands of new follows, tens of thousands in donations.
It was fine for the Last Wish raid. I'm sure that was the idea. They just went overboard. If Level 6 had been the final level, we'd be in the Forge and all would be good. The fact that this has taken longer than any raid in destiny 2 ever did speaks to some serious missed expectations. Either we're collectively too dumb (possible) or Bungie did way too much trying to make sure it wasn't *too easy*. I'm also not a fan of this not being solo-able.I'm sorry, but this is how it should have been from the start. Let the people who don't want to solve puzzles play the forge. The puzzle can still be there for the people who love secrets and enjoy solving puzzles. Core content should never be gated behind activities like this.
It's really sad they buckled under pressure. The puzzle was going to get solved eventually and people were going to get their fourth forge.
I agree. Level 6 should have probably been the end.I don't think we're too dumb for the puzzle, honestly. From a cryptology/symbology standpoint, level 7 is an insult to this entire process. I'm sure to the puzzle-maker the connection is obvious as shit, but you don't go from having the entire process around these labs revolve around a very specific symbol pattern & cipher, and then at the last hint, go back to using symbols that aren't from this puzzle language. It makes no sense.
Spawning ammo boxes that we now need to pick up? Using elemental class symbols instead of symbols that people have been hitting for 6 levels of puzzles up to that point? C'mon now.
Out of curiosity, where were they whining? I've only been watching streams. While you've been hearing deafening whining, I haven't heard anything but the voices people working hard to figure this out or help pitch in ideas.Better this tbh, even I couldn't handle the deafening whining anymore
agree. It's been long, but also fun to see them get through each piece.Yeah. I agree. This is good for the community. Love it when everybody comes together and tries to figure things out. Who cares how long it takes. That's the beauty of it. Last 24 hours is the most active this game has been both streaming wise and everything. I'm not in a hurry to get and do things like most people. Things will always be there for you to do.
I'm sure the playtesters had no problem solving the puzzle with the solution in hand.Another thing in the long line of weird things that makes me wonder how much Bungie actually plays their own game.
It was fine for the Last Wish raid. I'm sure that was the idea. They just went overboard. If Level 6 had been the final level, we'd be in the Forge and all would be good. The fact that this has taken longer than any raid in destiny 2 ever did speaks to some serious missed expectations. Either we're collectively too dumb (possible) or Bungie did way too much trying to make sure it wasn't *too easy*. I'm also not a fan of this not being solo-able.
It's utterly bad design. I'm willing to call the entirety of Black Armory bad design (it kind of is already) if this final forge doesn't deliver after all of this nonsense.
It's utterly bad design. I'm willing to call the entirety of Black Armory bad design (it kind of is already) if this final forge doesn't deliver after all of this nonsense.
Yes, it'll still be available even after the Forge is opened, as originally intended. They even listed what the rewards for completing this are (Emblem & Ghost Shell), which makes the call to decouple even more appropriate - if people had gone through all this time & trouble and all they got were those two things, they'd be rightfully pissed.
Moreover, the sudden realization that not one, but 4 exotic weapons they were advertising to sell BA were locked behind the 4th forge make having this go up without a community gate the even bigger right call. I know Bungie is going to learn from this, but holy crap - i've been waiting for Izanami's Burden for a fucking month.
I absolutely agree that the puzzle has issues but feel a hint or nudge would have been a better way to go about it first.A puzzle taking this long to solve is not the fault of the player being "too dumb". This is entirely the fault of the developer who made such a bad puzzle in the first place. One that is padded by making the player spend 15 minutes just to get back to the point of solving the puzzle over and over again slowing the process of solving it even more than need be. There is such thing as a puzzle being poorly designed to the point it asks demands an unrealistic answer for the user to be able to solve.
It's utterly bad design. I'm willing to call the entirety of Black Armory bad design (it kind of is already) if this final forge doesn't deliver after all of this nonsense.
So probably rng fusion rifle exotic in last forge and mystery box for sniper
No1 fps on twitch currentlyYeah. I agree. This is good for the community. Love it when everybody comes together and tries to figure things out. Who cares how long it takes. That's the beauty of it. Last 24 hours is the most active this game has been both streaming wise and everything. I'm not in a hurry to get and do things like most people. Things will always be there for you to do.
Just buy D2 Forsaken. You've missed some Christmas sales but it's $40 USD normally and includes the year one season pass if you missed that stuff.Hey DestinyERA, long time no see.
I havent played Destiny 2 since the first expansions came out, but I was a die hard D1 player and played D2 religiously for awhile when it released.
Ive been out of the game for some time, but I want to get back in. However, I am not really sure where to start. What all would I need to purchase in order to get up to speed. And second, am I going to have to grind my way through all of that stuff to enjoy the current raids/strikes/events etc?
I credit them for trying something new, but I read elsewhere that it probably would have been better if they did it over the weekend and say "Friday, the puzzle unlocks - if not complete within' 24 hours, forge will be open to everyone" rather than this.I miss Outbreak Prime. It wasn't necessary, but fun and optional with a reward that felt worth the effort.
Just buy D2 Forsaken. You've missed some Christmas sales but it's $40 USD normally and includes the year one season pass if you missed that stuff.
Ignore the Annual Pass until you get to level 600, then if you're still having fun with the game buy it for more content. It's completely irrelevant before you complete the rest of Forsaken.
Forsaken comes with a level boost that lets you skip the year 1 dlc content if you want to and jump right in.
Other than that, normal destiny stuff - do the raids and look up secrets on Reddit if you want to experience everything.
Lazy devs amirite!!!HAHAHAHA. Seriously, playtest these puzzles for like 2 minutes and maybe this could have been avoided.
What makes me sad is that I've only gotten one BA weapon exotic - the RNG one.
cool thanks for the confirmation. I was just standing at the Lab like, "what do".Just got a popup for the Bergusia Forge
edit: Talk to Ada to start the questline
Many people including myself considered the "prize" to be the opportunity to be recognized (even immortalized) as the group that officially opened the final Forge.I'm aware, I just don't agree with the statement that "victory was snatched from them" - the puzzle isn't solved yet, victory still on that pedestal to be snatched while I can finally go play in the Bergusia Forge while I wait for it to get solved.
When it gets solved, I'll get two people and go do it myself to get that ghost and emblem.
Geomags just dropped. Gambit opponents are fucked. Just summoned a Primeval and didn't even need to kill the envoys to blow the Primeval up with double Geomag Chaos Reach Warlocks and a Hunter with Tether. Absolutely disgusting.
edit: even ADA-1's dialog and commentary rings hollow as fuck.