There's no reach to be made when people are desperately spinning this as Sony being at fault when it's Disney that came in with an unreasonable proposition.Considering this is a gaming board, I can understrand why people would side with Sony on anything, even their terrible terrible movie division.
And saying people who have faith in Feige and his historical MCU success are "disney fanboys" is such an embarassing reach.
I asked what I was missing genuinely. Feel free to fill me in.
However, in February 2015, Sony Pictures and Marvel Studios announced that they would release a new Spider-Man film, with Kevin Feige and Pascal producing (the latter through her company Pascal Pictures).[93][94] The character would first appear in an earlier Marvel Cinematic Universe film,[93] later revealed to be Captain America: Civil War.[95] Marvel Studios would explore opportunities to integrate MCU characters into future Spider-Man films, which Sony Pictures would continue to finance, distribute, and have final creative control over.[93] Both studios have the ability to terminate the agreement at any point, and no money was exchanged with the deal. However, a small adjustment was made to a 2011 deal that gave Marvel full control of Spider-Man's merchandising rights, in exchange for a one-time payment of $175 million to Sony and paying up to $35 million for each future Spider-Man film rather than receiving their previous 5% of a Spider-Man film's revenue—Marvel could now reduce their $35 million payment if the co-produced film grossed more than $750 million.[96] Lone Star Funds also co-financed the film with Sony, via its LSC Film Corporation deal,[97] covering 25% of the $175 million budget,[98] while Columbia Pictures officially served as co-producer with Marvel Studios.[99] Sony also paid Marvel Studios an undisclosed producer fee.[100]
Yeah, Spider-Man 2 came out 15 years ago and imo that movie is overrated just based on the story alone.Literally every live-action Spider-Man movie that Sony has made since the original Spider-Man 2 has been straight up ass, so yeah, they do need Disney.
Naw, it's right out of the handbook of you don't counter offer against a terrible one.
Raimi was him and he won't be coming back, Spider-Verse was Miller and Lord they are too busy to touch this and Venom isn't good.The raimi films? Spider-verse? venom?
point is they don't need Disney to make good movies for spidey fans.
I don't see how that kills their current deal, if Sony is telling Disney that they would rather still be on the hook 100% cost wise, and keep the current deal in place. So this whole thing fell apart because neither side could agree on whether Sony should allow Disney to help financing the films in exchange for more control?
And Spider-Man 3 was bad as were ASM1 and ASM 2 and the box office results reflected it.
no, disney is.
Now, to be fair, Marvel Games have since stopped doing that; with Bill Rosemann pushing to get all those properties back in the rotation; and allegedly the instructions for the 'Fox ban' came from Pearlmutter himself who is now "just" Chairman of Marvel Entertainment and now spends most of his time arranging shit for Trump.A Shame too, because like before Marvel/Disney LOVES to stop making shit for a property they don't own the movie rights to, so the chances of us seeing another Spidey game? I'd wager next to null, just like they did with the X-Men when Fox had the rights, they don't want to create things that made help boost another studios movie/property.
People siding with the company that owns almost every big movie franchise? really?
Sony fucked up again (could add 32 more again's here to accurately portray their history in film. There were reasons they had no billion dollar films pre-2019 Marvel and had to be carried to it like children with help, but hey, their fans get to go back to those days)
With Amazing Spidey 2 being one of the worst recent superhero movies.
A new deal is absolutely going to happen. Marvel has much more to lose than Sony. Sony can make a crappy Spidey movie and it'll make profit. Even more so based on the work that Marvel put in. Marvel can't afford to have a shitty Sony Spidey movie. Especially with the same cast and crew. Causes major brand confusion and messes up Marvel's plans.Maaaaaan, Disney really fucked up.
I still hope this is all PR posturing andd we will get a new deal somewhere down the line.
Is this a joke post?! The first 3 spiderman movies set all sorts of records. What is happening in this thread?!
I'm just saying they spent 2 whole movies setting up Spider-Man as the heir apparent of the Avengers. Not to mention the fact that the last MCU movie ends with some pretty huge events that you can't just wave away in the MCU.
An Avenger gets outed on live TV and accused of murder and we are going to what.....just be like, nah fam that didn't happen....look Black Panther is here!
Yep. Feige has been running the most successful movie studio and franchise and has been able to keep the quality up while DC, Fox and Sony have been floundering.Considering this is a gaming board, I can understrand why people would side with Sony on anything, even their terrible terrible movie division.
And saying people who have faith in Feige and his historical MCU success are "disney fanboys" is such an embarassing reach.
There's no reach to be made when people are desperately spinning this as Sony being at fault when it's Disney that came in with an unreasonable proposition.
Got it. Thanks.Marvel Studios was the creative team behind the movies. Cast, Story, Production, Music. The deal was for Sony to step out of the way creatively and not get in the way and just sit back and collect money. In exchange, Marvel Studios could use Spidey in their own movies.
Time to see how much Spidey is really worthCould you freaking imagine in a bizarro world that Disney says "fuck it" and just outright buys Sony altogether just for this.
Yes, I'm siding with the company that displays competence versus the company that regularly displays incompetence.People siding with the company that owns almost every big movie franchise? really?
Ugh, well fine then. Gimme that Spidey vs Venom movie now Sony.
We seriously need to invent a term for the psychological phenomenon of believing there were no good or wildly successful Marvel movies before the MCU came along.
Have you ever negotiated anything in your life?There's no reach to be made when people are desperately spinning this as Sony being at fault when it's Disney that came in with an unreasonable proposition.