I actually didn't know Sony wanted to shove Iron Man into Homecoming.It gives them a stake in the production of the movie, as well as expanded creative input rather than having to leverage their vision for the character with Sony's requests (remember, Sony was the one that pushed Iron Man to be such a big part of them). Up till now the movie has had every aspect of it subject to Sony's approval.
This would have also likely given them input on other aspects of the Spider-man franchise, including Venom and their efforts to franchise characters like Silver Sable and Kraven. Sony HAS been pushing for MCU integration of these characters, but hasn't wanted Disney to have any input whatsoever on their solo movies.
In other words, Disney is trying to be a bigger partner in Spider-Man as a franchise, instead of beating solely to Sony's drum. This is likely to stave off what is a very justified concern that Sony is trying to excessively franchise different aspects of it in a way that will be ultimately damaging to the character and brand. Which, given they've already done that, and that Tom Rothman did the same shit to X-Men at Fox before moving to Sony, is very very very likely.
This deal would have, more than likely, still overwhelmingly benefited Sony.
New meme?I am simply not a fan of anything S*ny does or their poor customer service or lack of integrity, and don't like to speak their name aloud. It's like if Voldemort was a company.
I am simply not a fan of anything S*ny does or their poor customer service or lack of integrity, and don't like to speak their name aloud. It's like if Voldemort was a company.
I don't think it's preposterous. So if a known member on Era starts tweeting out racist shit, he shouldn't be banned because it happened offsite? Lol what? He knew exactly what he was posting. What are you defending?Banning for stupidity off-site is preposterous, but take solace in knowing it'll be hard for anyone to take him seriously after this.
Screw that MCU baggage, looking forward to Spidey focusing on being Spidey without snap/post snap, Stark backed rubbish.Yes. The best Peter Parker actor, as well as seeing Spider-Man in Marvel films was good while it lasted. Now back to your regularly scheduled shitty live action Spider-Man films from Sony.
/sigh
They have the ability to make an okay spider-man movie when they don't have to kneecap the narrative, (though the TASM movies prove that isn't a guarantee).
They are 0-for-1 when trying to make a quality Spider-related movie with a compromised narrative (Making a Venom movie without Spider-Man in it)
Screw that MCU baggage, looking forward to Spidey focusing on being Spidey without snap/post snap, Stark backed, clingy rubbish.
I don't think it's preposterous. So if a known member on Era starts tweeting out racist shit, he shouldn't be banned because it happened offsite? Lol what? He knew exactly what he was posting. What are you defending?
I get that it would diminish it, since it was neatly tied together in the end, but I would love to see more Miles. Or at least more animated super hero films from the same team even if completely separate from the previous plot.
Your math is off.
I understand that Disney wants half the revenue, not half the profit.
Gotta give it to Disney because they don't even need bots, they have an army of nerds crying all over twitter for some capeshit.
Banning for stupidity off-site is preposterous, but take solace in knowing it'll be hard for anyone to take him seriously after this.
I am simply not a fan of anything S*ny does or their poor customer service or lack of integrity, and don't like to speak their name aloud. It's like if Voldemort was a company.
Maybe for blatant racism, but saying that XBS will be better than PS5 is not racism.I don't think it's preposterous. So if a known member on Era starts tweeting out racist shit, he shouldn't be banned because it happened offsite? Lol what? He knew exactly what he was posting. What are you defending?
Nooo! What the hell! is this really happening!?
I haven't read the whole thread, so apologies if I'm missing some details. But I can't believe Sony is allowed to keep making Spider-Man movies with this version of the character, starring Tom Holland, without Marvel. Feels like a big mistake in the deal making process on Marvel's part if Sony is really allowed to continue to use a character so integrated into the MCU without Marvel's involvement.
And I don't even want to think about the chance this leads into another Sony reboot. I'm hoping this is all just a misunderstanding 😓
... Sony currently shoulders ALL the costs for Spider-Man/verse movies. The change is splitting those costs 50/50 with Disney for exchange of a 50/50 share of the revenue which understandably Sony would be balk at but it would probably also mean Disney/Marvel being involved with those other Sony produced Marvel based movies and probably taking creative control over them like they did Spider-Man and possibly making the live action ones actually connected to the MCU.For the most part, I actually don't blame Sony for walking away from what Disney's asking for. Disney's far from worse for wear at this point in time (getting Fox / regaining film rights to more Marvel characters and having a killer box office year) and yet they asking Sony to shoulder half the cost of future production for not only proper Spider-Man films, but also films connected to the Spider-Man verse (and that's assuming Sony still has to market/release the films and Marvel Studios gets the 5% of the first-dollar gross as the former deal entails). I'd honestly call them out on being greedy in this context.
But I can't help but laugh that TOM ROTHMAN of Fox Marvel fame is involved with talks (even given he's the studio head)
... Sony paid for ALL of the production cost before.
Do you think Disney was financing Venom??? What the heck?
... Sony currently shoulders ALL the costs for Spider-Man movies. The only change is splitting those costs with Disney for exchange of a 50/50 revenue share which understandably Sony would be balk at but it would probably also mean Disney/Marvel being involved with those other Sony produced Marvel based movies and probably taking creative control over them like they did Spider-Man and possibly making the live action ones actually connected to the MCU.
Gotta give it to Disney because they don't even need bots, they have an army of nerds crying all over twitter for some capeshit.
I am simply not a fan of anything S*ny does or their poor customer service or lack of integrity, and don't like to speak their name aloud. It's like if Voldemort was a company.
Off site stupidity should not be his saving grace here. The staff has banned multiple sources and sites and he should be one
It's inexcusable for a 41 year old man to behave like this and doesn't deserve to be part of this community 🤷♂️
No ones mad
I joined this site because I was told staff handled toxic clowns like this accordingly
Where in his post did you get the idea that he somehow stans for Sony?Gotta hand it to Sony, they made one Spider-Man movie that was actually good and it makes everyone think they're a plucky underdog and not a monolithic megacorp in their own right.
I mean is it stupid he's being emotional? Sure I guess but I also wouldn't consider a blanket tweet about defending Tim Rothman toxic.No ones mad
I joined this site because I was told staff handled toxic clowns like this accordingly
... Sony currently shoulders ALL the costs for Spider-Man movies. The only change is splitting those costs with Disney for exchange of a 50/50 revenue share which understandably Sony would be balk at but it would probably also mean Disney/Marvel being involved with those other Sony produced Marvel based movies and probably taking creative control over them like they did Spider-Man and possibly making the live action ones actually connected to the MCU.
It's right there on his Era profile.
Uhh, off-site stupidity does not (necessarily) equate to off-site racism. One does not require the same response/action as the other.I don't think it's preposterous. So if a known member on Era starts tweeting out racist shit, he shouldn't be banned because it happened offsite? Lol what? He knew exactly what he was posting. What are you defending?
imagining Marvel replacing Spidey with Gwenpool as the relatable teen hero and then being all "Ha ha, she's actually NOT Gwen Stacy so she's ours, dipshits" to Sony's lawyers
That's fair, but still no reason for some MCU fans to lose their mind over it.Well to be fair deadline's editors made it seem like a helpless done deal.
You are conflating stupid fanboyism with someone who had mental health issues. Like what are you even doing.
Sony is a conglomerate and each division is a separate companyWait, Marvel has the game rights? Hmmm
Disney tries to negotiate with Sony
Sony won't play ball
Marvel tries withholding Spider-Man rights as a chip, threatens the sequel as a multiplat/Xbox exclusive
Sony buys Insomniac so defang the threat
I don't actually think this was what happened
for realThat's fair, but still no reason for some MCU fans to lose their mind over it.
Tobey Spider Man comeback?????
Seriously though, did Disney have to fuck it up? They were doing so well.
With how much people seemingly love Raimi's Spider-Man films, I'm starting to get an itch to rewatch them for the first time since their theatrical releases.Lots of Spiderverse love but why is nobody going to bat for the actual best Spider-Man movie, Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 2.
Despite my gloating it's not impossible. There's always a deal to be done, just look at Spider-Man in the MCU in the first place.
It's just whether Igor and Fiege want to deal with Rothman taking them to the cleaners. It must be something to have a juggernaut like Disney over a barrel.
So Disney asked Sony to help co-finance future solo movies, right? They didn´t ask for any profits? So stupid on Sony's part. The MCU movies are guaranteed to make bank. Seems like Sony was willing to work with Marvel/Disney only as long as they didn't have to put a cent, didn't have to bother making the movies themselves while getting all the profits.
marvel gets 5% of the first dollar gross. they want a 50/50 cofinance. hmmm