Definitely a bit overwhelmed with the changes right now. It's going to take some getting used to.
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Delphi always looked like a great adventurer; I just went with Vice because I lacked the material and eldwater to bring Delphi to 70MC. I guess I don't have much of an excuse now that I've been gifted 600k eldwater.
It'll be interesting to see how the buffs shake out. I've only seen a handful of the actual numbers but a lot of the buffs were enormous. Like Geuden's S2 charges twice as fast and does more damage while the mods on his S1 nearly tripled.
Don't need to give Gala adventurers spirals when they can just patch Gala Mym to have like a 2k% mod on her S1.
Don't need to give Gala adventurers spirals when they can just patch Gala Mym to have like a 2k% mod on her S1.
I'm so fucking confused about everything :lol
Think I'll let the community figure things out for me
Think I'll let the community figure things out for me
I tried the fire agito boss and apparently I'm able to auto that one lol. Seemed like Jiang Ziya did most of the work.
So I assume beating standard once let's you craft one agito weapon, and then you're supposed to take that weapon and do expert in co op to get more?
Had taken a couple month break from the game and didn't realize all these changes were happening. I don't get why they changed the Epithet's to require beating on Solo. I'm not going to beat Master Kai on Solo, and I beat Expert of the Dark Guy in Co-op for the first time and don't see how I'll solo that. So losing out on the Epithet for beating all Agitos, even though I have.
Grats! I found out pretty much the same way when i decided to throw my shadow team at kai yan in auto for the fun of it and ended up actually winning lol.
And yeah pretty much. I think maxed out high dragon trial weapons are better up until you can upgrade your agito weapon but they take a lot of grinding, so being able to craft a strong 6* weapon after beating one fight is pretty neat and gives you a good step up to challenge more things. With the high dragon banes being active when using an agito now the high dragon trials are much less daunting
You unlock them on the Void weapons. Once unlocked they apply yo all variations of that weapon type and element
It's a lot to take in with the hero, weapon and wyrmprint changes but already feeling more invested, and the weapon UI is so much cleaner. Digging the visual update (would look nice on a Switch...) and battle royale mode is more fun than I first expected. Respect to the team for keeping things fresh in ways that aren't just power creep.
Where do I even start with this update? So much to take in. I'm excited, disappointed, and confused all at once. lol
It's a very self-contained mode thus far. I bet when they figure things out completely it'll give out more interesting rewards.
Reassigned all my prints for my shadow team, tested them out on eKai and beat him before the crushing cataclysm spree which is a first lol was not expecting that. Used the new solo clear reward to unlock the 3rd 5 star slot on all of my shadow agito weapons, I'm thinking 3 drive accelerators and then the 30% broken punisher on gleo will be fun 😂
Oh also I had a really weird bug last night after trying the new mode, I needed mats for the weapon abilities so I used 10 skip tickets on a void battle and I got the BR clear screen saying 1/16 with zero rewards so I tried it again and same thing. Had to auto play a battle before it went back to normal and tickets worked again
Oh also I had a really weird bug last night after trying the new mode, I needed mats for the weapon abilities so I used 10 skip tickets on a void battle and I got the BR clear screen saying 1/16 with zero rewards so I tried it again and same thing. Had to auto play a battle before it went back to normal and tickets worked again
Got first place in BR with Joe!
Less than 20 matches to unlock 1x Sunlight Stone with no Stamina cost seems pretty good. Coming in first vs last doesn't seem to change the Battle Points reward much so it's not very stressful. I'm liking the mode overall.
Ah, I was confused since they streamlined it to only the dragon bane weapons. SO HAPPY I dismantled/sold all of the ones I had made already.
Ok so having better luck understanding things. Followed a guide and beat Expert High Midgardsormr on my first try, on auto! Makes me happy, I'll see how it does on Master tomorrow. And I found guides that I can copy teams from for everything except High Zodiark, Peony was the only FE unit I didn't get and she's everywhere
Question: Once I make teams to destroy High Dragons, that'll let me make High Dragon weapons to take on Agito, right? Is there anything else I should be spending the resources on first, like the wyrmprint or the facilities? Or are weapons to take the next level of challenge the way to go?
Question: Once I make teams to destroy High Dragons, that'll let me make High Dragon weapons to take on Agito, right? Is there anything else I should be spending the resources on first, like the wyrmprint or the facilities? Or are weapons to take the next level of challenge the way to go?
If you are strong enough to take on expert dragon trials solo then you are likely strong enough to auto through most of the agito as well which will allow you to create 6* weapons and take on the dragons easier
Ha! Remember to update your helper settings! Pretty much everybody on my friends list is hitting as hard as a dry tissue.
Thanks for the reminder. Probably one of the last things I'd think about after all of these changes. lol
I had a few High Dragon Bane weapons, but when I go into the void section of crafting it says everything hasn't been obtained yet. Adding onto this, none of the weapons seem to carry the High Dragon Bane skill at all. I individually checked all of the swords for example, and none of them have it. Where do you get that skill now? I checked the weapon bonuses/abilities section at the bottom of the screen and it's not listed. :/
Get the Void Weapon to 6/8 unbinds then unlock the last ability on the list. You can long hold on the icons to double check their effect, since there is the HDT Bane and the Astral Bane right there next to each other in the abilities menu.
Wow, thanks. I didn't know the initial information screen doesn't list all possible skills on that weapon (after unbinding them). Long holding the icons definitely helps, but they really should fix that.
It's weird though. Like, I'm 100% sure I had several High Dragon Bane weapons crafted before the update, yet none of them are showing anymore. Unless they automatically disassembled them due to the weapon changes and gave me the mats back (in the massive influx of materials in my mailbox upon login).
Edit: Wait, long hold what icon? I'm in the void menu and I can't seem to check all of the future skills on the Inferno Apogee (for example). I long hold the weapon to check the stats and I can't seem to find any other skill information, other than the default (Flame) Skill Prep +50%.
In the void weapon go to functionality > upgrade and then you can press each icon to see the effect of each ability before you select it.
mhmm I'm still so overwhelmed by all the reset teams that I keep just playing the BR mode when I look at the game, lol; I gotta get farming for the first time in a while, assuming I can even figure out what to farm
I guess I should see if the Discord or even Reddit has some good print setups I can just blindly steal while I get used to everything, cause right now it's literally just too overwhelming for my brain? mainly I wish their UI for prints w/ ability text was less cramped as I finally figured out how to turn it to icons, which I desperately needed because how cramped the other view is was killing me... but I also actually do need to relearn what everything does now
similarly for weapons... I sure hope someone makes a tracking tool because seeing how weird the material costs are is discouraging me from making a spreadsheet again, and though I'd be interested in making my own tool I just don't think I have it in me to actually finish it with what my life's like rn
I've at least grabbed the HD bane + weapon upgrade nodes for weapon+element combo I actively use for those fights, that was easy and understandable enough to go for as a first step, it's just seeing the huge costs on everything else that's making it hard to think about what I should be making - especially when you can no longer see the additional costs in advance
also, as someone who did a ton of (tedious, time consuming, and very annoying!) dismantling as a rupies sink while collecting weapon skins, a lil pissed that a lot of the skins I liked were suddenly taken from me! it would be one thing if I just had to remake what I had (as is the case for some 5* weapons I'd dismantled), but a lot of them are now locked beyond not only making an expensive yet shitty 5* weapon but wastefully unbinding it multiple times because that's ironically how they've locked the previously very cheap to get 3* and 4* skins; I have already sent feedback on that and few other things (print slot unlock costs, for one - it feels way too harsh and will discourage stuff like going HD -> Agito?) so hopefully they be nice about it, idk
I guess I should see if the Discord or even Reddit has some good print setups I can just blindly steal while I get used to everything, cause right now it's literally just too overwhelming for my brain? mainly I wish their UI for prints w/ ability text was less cramped as I finally figured out how to turn it to icons, which I desperately needed because how cramped the other view is was killing me... but I also actually do need to relearn what everything does now
similarly for weapons... I sure hope someone makes a tracking tool because seeing how weird the material costs are is discouraging me from making a spreadsheet again, and though I'd be interested in making my own tool I just don't think I have it in me to actually finish it with what my life's like rn
I've at least grabbed the HD bane + weapon upgrade nodes for weapon+element combo I actively use for those fights, that was easy and understandable enough to go for as a first step, it's just seeing the huge costs on everything else that's making it hard to think about what I should be making - especially when you can no longer see the additional costs in advance
also, as someone who did a ton of (tedious, time consuming, and very annoying!) dismantling as a rupies sink while collecting weapon skins, a lil pissed that a lot of the skins I liked were suddenly taken from me! it would be one thing if I just had to remake what I had (as is the case for some 5* weapons I'd dismantled), but a lot of them are now locked beyond not only making an expensive yet shitty 5* weapon but wastefully unbinding it multiple times because that's ironically how they've locked the previously very cheap to get 3* and 4* skins; I have already sent feedback on that and few other things (print slot unlock costs, for one - it feels way too harsh and will discourage stuff like going HD -> Agito?) so hopefully they be nice about it, idk
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Doublebuffs feel great right now. Easy to slot in, say, Brothers in Arms and Felyne Hospitality right next to pure output prints like skill damage/crit chance. Pipple comps are shredding extra hard and Templar Hope is almost as much a thing in co-op as he was in solo thanks to his ridiculous buffs
Yep, if you unlocked it on a fire sword that means all fire swords will have it
Blue Hedgehog already explained the long hold icon thing (you do it when you're looking at all the ability icons - but also, it's just always the last one) but I wanna cover the other bit:
Regarding Goodwill Gestures for Changes Made to the Weapon and Crafting Systems said:
So basically they just entirely refunded the non-Chimera Voids, including the bane weapons. Given how they've basically combined every ability for that weapon+element under the bane one, I guess that was a reasonable way to approach it. And, well, I guess it lets you prioritize your banes differently if you no longer use the same characters for those fights.[/quote]
It's kinda funny how overshadowed Gala Zena was by everything else. There's been almost no mention of her here but for good reason since everyone seems to be totally preoccupied with all of these huge system changes that we were blindsided by.
Now that the main cast has been whittled down I guess the plan from here on out might be Euden's siblings getting Gala versions with Gala Notte popping up early next year.
(To think it's been two years but our pint-sized faerie has finally evolved from playable April Fools' joke to likely Gala candidate. lol)
Sorry to hear about all the work you put into collecting weapon skins only for that effort to vanish overnight. A while back I mistakenly crafted a 6.2 flame dagger from scratch instead of enhancing the 6.1 I already had (which I then later enhanced to get some use out of it), and after the update they didn't give me the materials back from the dupe 6.2 dagger (not even as a weapon copy). Feels bad, man. :/
Now that the main cast has been whittled down I guess the plan from here on out might be Euden's siblings getting Gala versions with Gala Notte popping up early next year.
(To think it's been two years but our pint-sized faerie has finally evolved from playable April Fools' joke to likely Gala candidate. lol)
I'm right there with you. Soooo overwhelmed. Two years of familiarity turned on its head, just like that. :/
Sorry to hear about all the work you put into collecting weapon skins only for that effort to vanish overnight. A while back I mistakenly crafted a 6.2 flame dagger from scratch instead of enhancing the 6.1 I already had (which I then later enhanced to get some use out of it), and after the update they didn't give me the materials back from the dupe 6.2 dagger (not even as a weapon copy). Feels bad, man. :/
Gala Leonidas is definitely next. We already saw his new look in the story preview. He has a little golden thingy on his brow, it seems like maybe he becomes King of Alberia? He probably goes and kicks Emile to the curb and takes over.
Then Gala Chelle with a manacaster. She's the source of the guns in the first place and she's talking about using something for the first time so she probably busts out a gun and starts blasting.
Then human-sized Gala Notte. With Meene coming up and that new story character you can see has fairy wings it seems like fairies can be normal sized if they want to. Maybe Notte doesn't know how? She probably figures it all out in the fairy-related story chapter.
Then Gala Chelle with a manacaster. She's the source of the guns in the first place and she's talking about using something for the first time so she probably busts out a gun and starts blasting.
Then human-sized Gala Notte. With Meene coming up and that new story character you can see has fairy wings it seems like fairies can be normal sized if they want to. Maybe Notte doesn't know how? She probably figures it all out in the fairy-related story chapter.
I thought so. I was wondering if I could see the actual ability somewhere on the Team screen, but I guess not.
Oh, hmm. That does remind me - I mentioned it before, but I had made my first chimeratech weapons, the fire sword and dagger, direct to tier 2 without thinking about it. Before this change, thinking it'd at least let me keep it documented for my collection/skins/whatever, I did end up making a new MUB T1->0UB T2 of each hoping it would be refunded - maybe just combined in the sword's case, but maybe totally refunded in the dagger's case as the dagger was actually MUB. Ended up with 5/8 sword, which might be combining, but IIRC the original was already T2 1UB? And I didn't get a second copy of the dagger.
Hard to tell if they refunded any materials when they refunded so much. I'm skimming through the video I took of me scrolling through the gift list (in case I needed to review it like this) and I don't seem to see any chimera materials, but... hmm.
5/8 unbinds would correspond to the old T2 1UB. Refining a weapon is the same as increasing its tier in the old version, except you don't need to do any unbinds before you can refine. All my Chimeratech weapons were 0UB T2s (so the minimum to unlock Agito) and they're sitting at 4/8 unbinds with the refine already done.
Thanks!
It's really strange how you need to craft the weapon first to see what skills are attached to upgrading that weapon. Like, how is anyone supposed to know how to get the HDT Bane ability when there's nothing in-game that tells you?
Thanks, that explains it!
Edit: One more thing. For weapon bonus. Is it the 0.5% of the HP/Strengthfor the weapon you unlock it on that's applied to ALL weapons of that type? I'm curious as to whether there's any point in max'ing out the HP/Strength of the void weapons or not, since I'll be using Chimera/Agito weapons on my main.
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Yeah, you need to unbind each weapon six times (out of eight total) to be able to unlock the bane skills for every individual weapon/type .