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God, am I ever sick of looking at Kid Buu/Cell teams (don't care all that much about Cell on his own, but combined with Kid Buu automatically makes me tune out that much more quickly when watching a match). Some of the dullest, most uninspired bandwagoning imaginable.
Really hoping that adding Zamasu and Vegito will mean at least somewhat more variety.
Really hoping that adding Zamasu and Vegito will mean at least somewhat more variety.
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https://www.openrec.tv/live/FNxDEPztR56
Vegito now.
His assist seems to be his jumping ki blast which is very similar to 21's.
Vegito now.
His assist seems to be his jumping ki blast which is very similar to 21's.
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Vegetto looks amazing! Good job getting me hyped. His normals look really good, in general he looks pretty good.
Shame they didn't show Zamasu, are they still tweaking the character with a week to go for release?
Edit: What the hell the sword is a normal?! I thought it was a special.
Shame they didn't show Zamasu, are they still tweaking the character with a week to go for release?
Edit: What the hell the sword is a normal?! I thought it was a special.
Damn his assist is not that good...
I want to replace trunks so bad.
Team is Gohan/ Trunks and Black
I want to replace trunks so bad.
Team is Gohan/ Trunks and Black
Will Coola be released after the super dragon ball heroes show this summer? If yes I'd be ready to bet he's going to get his golden form :D that'd be pretty cool.
Vegito seems pretty solid. Not having a 2L low is a little concerning at first glance, but it looks like he can chain from mediums to lights (Under Night rebeats?! :o), though I don't know the inputs, so it's hard to say, so don't quote me on this lol. Spirit Sword has silly range, stops superdashes, you can combo after it with superdash AND you can cancel it on block with his regular Ki Blast, so it seems pretty dang good lol. No traditional sliding knockdown, but at least he has them in the form of his aerial command grab (though it side switches everytime, so it's hard to say how good it'll be). His assist seems good too; not amazing like a beam or Vegeta assist, but good enough for midscreen harassment, and combo extensions (and it'll catch bad vanishes too.) Really looking forward to playing him next week; it's hard to say if he'll be part of the new meta, but he looks really fun to play lol.
Quoting you. Looking at it, isn't that a string that goes: 5L > 2M > 5M > 6M (if that's what the overhead looking thing is)?
Hmm, I assumed that punch to the ground is his 2L. It looks way too fast to be the universal 6M overhead and you can see him chaining that into I assuming sliding 2M after that initial string. I guess it's possible Vegito might not just follow the rules like everyone else, but it's hard to tell without knowing the inputs.
Yeah, and it's definitely not 6M now that I take a look again since it can be blocked crouching. It's a pretty weird 2L, but it's reasonable.
I've been confused on something for a while. I see a lot of people doing air combo strings with m.l.l. rather than l.m. I've heard it's supposed to do more damage or something. However, every time I experiment with it in the training room, my l.m air combos always seem to do slightly more damage in the end than m.l.l. combos. What is the actual optimal way to do this? Is it like character specific? The one I was testing this on most recently was SSB Vegeta.
It's character specific to a point (i.e., j.M, j.L only at the start for Bardock rather than two Ls, making sure the j.M hits twice), but that is the general idea.
j.M, j.L, j.L, j.2H --> Super Dash --> j.L, j.L, j.2H --> jump cancel --> j.L, j.L, j.L
Is how it would go for most characters who get a Smash w/sliding knockdown at the end of it, including Bluegeta. Makes more sense to sub the last j.L for something else with some characters (i.e., j.S --> 236M for Black in a corner, 214M anywhere for Bardock). For Trunks, he has the option of subbing the last j.L for j.S --> 214L --> j.L, j.L, j.L in a corner (or if you have the meter for it, j.S --> Vanish --> 214L --> j.L, j.L, j.L anywhere).
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Hmmm, thanks for this. I'll have to fool with it a bit more. But I swear my standard combos with SSB Vegeta were doing like 3 points less damage with the j.M, j.L, j.L method. Like just standard starting from c.M combos that just bring them back down and finish with super. Maybe it makes a bigger difference on larger combos or something? I'm bad with analyzing scaling math too much, so the stuff in the link doesn't make too much sense to me. My general rule is that more separate move hits = more scaling in most fighting games. Which is why I was confused on why adding an extra light would actually increase damage. It seems to actually be scaling it a bit more for me.
And yeah I get the stuff like with Bardock, who I use, because of his j.M being two hits and such. I just dunno why I'm getting less damage with SSB Vegeta.
Just j.L, j.M. So standard combo. c.L, c.M, s.M>jc>j.L, j.M, j.2H>super dash>j.L, j.M, j.2H>jc>j.L, j.L, j.L.....upon landing super. Sometimes switch out the last j.l with the standard kicks to vanish dunk YAAAAAAHHHH super. I always seem to get slightly more damage this way than if I put in j.M, j.L, j.L instead.
hm weird i get 3195 with the former and 3250 with the latter
im not trying to hound you or anything, was just curious since it shouldn't be possible for you to get more with the first starter...
to be clear im doing 2l 2m, 5m j.lm2h vs. 2l 2m 5m, j.mll2h, I think there's probably either an extra or lack of a button you might be missing?
basically, if you're going off the same starter (in this case 2l) earlier mediums should mean more damage in a combo
im not trying to hound you or anything, was just curious since it shouldn't be possible for you to get more with the first starter...
to be clear im doing 2l 2m, 5m j.lm2h vs. 2l 2m 5m, j.mll2h, I think there's probably either an extra or lack of a button you might be missing?
basically, if you're going off the same starter (in this case 2l) earlier mediums should mean more damage in a combo
Oh sweet, another thread. I didn't know you guys moved shop.
Anyway, looks like Vegito's 2H really is godlike.
Anyway, looks like Vegito's 2H really is godlike.
Meh combo but can be ended various ways
Does more than universal but uses assists so theyre equal
Yeah I don't know why you superdash right away, you can j.L to magic series first after the 16 assist for some extra damage.
Yeah I started doing that after i posted
Im trying to leg loop combo midscreen into sparking hold vanish 2H but cant seem to have the game register the inputs
I'm not sure if anyone already posted the Vegito Blue render, so here it is.
I need an avatar version of hi head
Im bad at this game but freaking love it, today bought Bardock and did 2 ranked match with him and he saved my points in the end.
Lol people will dip no matter what your color. I'm bright green and I get maybe two matches an hour. Everyone else either cancels or just sits there for the full thirty seconds. No idea why people queue up and walk away. So fucking annoying.
Then half the time when I win the first game they just bail.
GREAT!!!
The online community in this game continues to be garbage, but one thing that I will say is that, for whatever reason, I barely get any rage quits anymore. I think it's a combination with the people I get matched with (there has to be some skill based matchmaking at play here) and the fact that people are progressively playing more to improve than to superficially inflate their egos.
