Just replace Videl with a strong point character like SSB Goku, SS Goku, Goku Black, Teen Gohan or dare I say.....Bardock. Frieza and Broly are perfect where they are placed on your team.
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Just replace Videl with a strong point character like SSB Goku, SS Goku, Goku Black, Teen Gohan or dare I say.....Bardock. Frieza and Broly are perfect where they are placed on your team.
I figured as much regarding Broly and Frieza's placement, since I quickly realised that a Broly comin in with some bars already available is quite efficient, and as for Frieza, yeah install lvl 3 is all I need to say lol
Yes I already tried but not online to replace Videl with SS Goku since I know how to play him and he's quite efficient, but would that team in that order allow me some assist combos? I tried a lot of stuff but I can't seem to find a good way to extend a combo with Broly or frieza's assist. I think probably for Frieza it's because of my timing, since it seems possible to relaunch someone with his assist, but for Broly, I can't find anything. I usually use his assist when the opponent gets up so I can rush him at the same time (this is not very efficient^^) I'll give a shot online to SS Goku as a point anyway, he's fun to play and I know stuff with him :) Might try SS vegeta too since apparently he got rebuffed ^^ but I have a hard time seeing him as a good point for me.
You might be able to use Frieza's assist with Broly after his air command grab. I use SSB Goku's assist with it which adds extra damage with a hard knockdown. You might be able to extend a Broly combo with a Frieza assist.
If this is possible I have very poor timing lol, I tried that but can't hit it. We're talking about Broly's J214 command grab right? Most of the time with a broly air combo, I do the S hit that grabs the opponent and crashes him down, then combo on the 214 command grab and end with his lvl 3.
But I'm wondering if I could do the frieza assist after the air S if I'm not high enought to have the animation and rebound you get when doing the airS from high enough ( which allows to chain with the air command grab and then lvl 3, or maybe even with frieza's assist? Mmmmh I don't think I tried all that lol)
Give it a shot. It should work, but I'm not sure where you would go from there. Maybe SD or vanish and go from there.
Videl assist is solid. Basically a slightly weaker Bardock's. Broly's and Frieza's are also very very good. You probably just have poor timing.
IMO Broly/Videl/Frieza is probably best order since Broly's presence in neutral is much more threatening than Videl's. Videl is better once you got them cornered.
I think Videl makes better use of other assists than Broly/Frieza's, but you can absolutely make them work.
Some simple examples using your team
IMO Broly/Videl/Frieza is probably best order since Broly's presence in neutral is much more threatening than Videl's. Videl is better once you got them cornered.
I think Videl makes better use of other assists than Broly/Frieza's, but you can absolutely make them work.
Some simple examples using your team
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Yep, I tried and it can work but mainly in the corner, and as far as i could find it doesnt lead to more damage than what Im used to do instead.
However I just realiszd the timing for the frieza assist when i finish an air combo with videl with 236 medium hit(sorry forgot the marking in this game^^), it allows me to pick back up in the air and send back down for a super with any of the other 2 :)
Brolys assist is a lost cause for combos extensions i think ^^ its okay hes so strong on everything else.
Anyway I tried kid goku, hes really fun but he wont bring me anything different as a point than videl. So Ill keep this team to try these assist extensions and worst case Ill replace videl with ss goku.
Also yeah Im gonna try a piccolo kid goku and yamcha team in casual, just because ^^
Actually, right now i couldnt tell you what videl's assist is ^^ when i switch her for broly i go into the stuff i know with him, and by reflex if i use an assist its frieza. Back to the training room :)
And yeah it was very poor timing on my oart, I actually didnt realise before you could start the assist before an animation and it would still work, and it seems to be necessary for frieza assist. Than you for the advices :)
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Here's another one.
Make sure you're using either Tatsunical's Discord, the various character Discords, and the character hashtags. You can probably find more optimized combos using these characters pretty easily.
I linked them all in my post here as well as other ways to improve:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/dragon-ball-fighterz-ot2-lets-rock-the-dragon.42836/post-18270551
Holy shit I can extend my combo AFTER Brolys lvl 3 with Videl's assist??? Lol Im such a scrub, thank you !
Truthfully I believe this to be the most oppressive FG I've ever played online out of MvCI, BBTAG, IJ2, MKx, SC6, and Smash. To be fair, I have minor online exp with SFV and Tekken7. I play MvC2 at Arcade (we have a local arcade with that game and it is to die for!). But I only play MvC2 casual level so for all I know it's much worse than here. Let's make that clear-- I'm just playing MvC2 against other noobs
I'm here for the dbfz characters. Wish there was an 1 vs 1 mode that would be much easier to play. They already have the mode. just make it online. Would be an unbalanced mess prob though I couldnt even imagine since my understanding of this game is like Demon rank tops right now lmao
But in the end, we just have to accept the game that ASW made for us. just go in the lab and practice different scenarios, mess around with different characters to increase your matchup knowledge, learn the combo system (just basic universal BnB should get you to my rank or higher), etc -- and we will take these basic concepts with us to our next game.
edit- BnB == bread and butter combo, universal BnB = see MaxDood dbfz video or something
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Personally, I'd say color square seems more indicative (though by no means 100% accurate) of what to expect from other players than ranked mode titles, the latter seeming to boil down more to how much time people are willing to invest playing in that mode than anything else. Then there's how many matches the player has fought and won relative to their rank. For something like SFV, ranked titles seem to carry more weight, and are both much harder to gain and far easier to lose.
To elaborate, I've seen players of Supreme Kai rank who've fought more than a thousand matches, yet they would be much higher if they won more of them. I've fought less than 200 ranked matches, yet managed to reach Demon and get the 530,000 BP trophy in spite of playing less there as a result of having won most of those.
To elaborate, I've seen players of Supreme Kai rank who've fought more than a thousand matches, yet they would be much higher if they won more of them. I've fought less than 200 ranked matches, yet managed to reach Demon and get the 530,000 BP trophy in spite of playing less there as a result of having won most of those.
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I agree that the square color means more since it directly comes from your win/loss ratio. Im much more apprehending of a player with 400 and 300 wins than a player with 4000 matches and 3000 wins. Same percentage of loss, but the first one plays much better most of the time (or is a rage quiter since there seems to still be no punishment for that?)
Supposedly rage quitters get lumped in with other ones after doing it enough, but I don't really remember. What I do recall is that they would have to do it before the K.O. is announced, as the results are registered with the network as soon as that happens.
Square color doesnt mean anything. We can all be Pink. Just RQ when you losing
I lost my red color due to losing to my same buddy in Ring. By the same token, just grind a buddy to get promoted. Combine that with RQ on your last character and you'll hit Pink. Sure your 'completion' rate will go bad if you quit too much. But maybe you can trick the system there by like hopping into a Ring match against a different color and just make sure not to quit after like 10 consecutive matches or something.
Now I'm not stupid. Some Pinks will totally murder you while some others you'll be like- yo this guy might not be legit and sure enough they RQ on their last
I lost my red color due to losing to my same buddy in Ring. By the same token, just grind a buddy to get promoted. Combine that with RQ on your last character and you'll hit Pink. Sure your 'completion' rate will go bad if you quit too much. But maybe you can trick the system there by like hopping into a Ring match against a different color and just make sure not to quit after like 10 consecutive matches or something.
Now I'm not stupid. Some Pinks will totally murder you while some others you'll be like- yo this guy might not be legit and sure enough they RQ on their last
In my case, I last played against a fellow pink square in casuals with a better ranked win record than I had, but still managed to beat him twice, having expected it to be much more difficult and had been prepared to lose. But yeah, like I mentioned, by no means a completely accurate representation of player ability.
You're probably no doubt just legit good with solid fundamentals. Need to make sure to try to catch up with you later tonight or so-- so I can put you on follow. Maybe I'll learn something to help me out
edit- I could meet in a lobby right now if you have time. I cant play. But at least I can get you on follow
Awesome! Maybe around 7pm CST? I think im home. Send me a PS message if you dont mind. I'll keep the PS message app open on my phone. Just say something like "k" and ill hop into like Canada East. No one is ever at Canada
I still need to play with him more before I know how I feel but-- hes gotten off to a good start. Really nice assist that feels very versatile while at the sametime- it's different from the others. I would've been fine with a plain beam assist but this works
Yeah that's what happens the few times it happens to me ^^
Also, I'm online trying to finally get my arena matches trophy to get the platinium, if anyone is here
Played around with Kid Goku for a bit. I can see him giving me fits online. He's got range, utility, damage and some decent mixups.
The new Arcade mode was a nice little surprise with how the randomizers work. Just wish we can fully customize the BMG for this mode.
The new Arcade mode was a nice little surprise with how the randomizers work. Just wish we can fully customize the BMG for this mode.
My experience is the opposite where dbfz was my first fighting game experience so I didn't realise there were things that I hated until I dipped my toes in other games. Tekken 7 is the game I've invested most time into and I love that most strings are about 4 hits long, so pressure is a completely different ball park to dbfz where you can legitimately be stuck defending for 30 seconds with very small windows of opportunity to take a turn.
A thing I've realised is that I don't like fighting game systems or mechanics that reward you for making the other person unable to play the game, ie dbfz at least in comparison to the other fighting games I've played, is extremely aggressive and all about pressure, which ultimately makes it a very boring and unfun experience when you're stuck in the corner with nothing really to do but hope you guess right and if not... well hope you're prepared to do it all again.
if it makes you feel any better, any combo that starts low (2M) scales really hard (does a lot of dmg). So if it's a guessing game then block low so they're combo will get scaled hard. But yeah usually you want to play lots of matches against the same opponent so you get a chance to learn their blockstrings. Then you'll just start automatically blocking their hits and do better in the matchup. I usually prefer to fight people on the FG Era discord so I know we can play lots of matches.
Didnt play Tekken 7 awhole lot. It looks like it could get annoying if you fight someone really good and they get a nice Juggle combo going on you and get you up against a wall for an extended combo. Checkout Soul calibur 6 it's also a 3d fighter and the combos are real short there. Even the pros have short combos from what I watched in tourneys
I got a bit sloppier at times than I would've liked, but I had fun. Thanks for the games.
I knew had recognized the name FSLink from earlier, no wonder I stood no chance against him. Hoping to actually earn this pink square of mine one day (though indeed, that was a perfect example of why said network colors don't mean all that much).
EDIT: Other than avoiding drops, I need far more work with landing cross-ups with consistency.
EDIT2: I've discussed what I need to work on enough here, so one thing I'd say you should keep in mind. Consider spending the cash more often when you have it and the opponent's health is low enough, there were definitely times when you could've taken out characters on my team following sliding knockdowns (sometimes with DHCs, other times solo).
I knew had recognized the name FSLink from earlier, no wonder I stood no chance against him. Hoping to actually earn this pink square of mine one day (though indeed, that was a perfect example of why said network colors don't mean all that much).
EDIT: Other than avoiding drops, I need far more work with landing cross-ups with consistency.
EDIT2: I've discussed what I need to work on enough here, so one thing I'd say you should keep in mind. Consider spending the cash more often when you have it and the opponent's health is low enough, there were definitely times when you could've taken out characters on my team following sliding knockdowns (sometimes with DHCs, other times solo).
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Anyone feel like doing some arena matches? Been a long time since I've actually played anyone from the thread and my bad habits have only gotten worse since the last time. That and I'm getting a bunch of really bad connection matches tonight and want to find out if it's everyone else that's the problem or if it's me...
Yeah FSLink does that to everyone though. The other day he told me he beat KnowKami in a match. It's great to play against him though
That makes it a bit less disheartening, then.
I haven't paid much mind to Trunks after starting out with him in S1, may cycle him in on occasion again (in spite of not being wild about his Lv. 3 limitations).
What I don't get is how come modders can do these things seemingly so easy, yet we can't get them from ArkSys?
God SSJ4 looks as terrible in this game as it does in GT.
What? Why would they throw SSJ4 as a random skin on SSJ1 Goku? These people didn't design a whole brand new character.
I'm unfamiliar with GT, but don't they use pretty much the same moves? They could change the level 3 animation but have it still function the same too.
Regardless, the point of my post was costumes. Plenty of other characters have alternate outfits that modders included, why can't ArkSys?
Oh I'm with you a hundred percent on wanting costumes. I'd happily pay too (much to the chagrin of many vocal gamers). They even did it with Videl, built in with a shortcut, so I dunno why they can't do more. They don't seem to be a dev that does that sort of thing, though.
For all my distaste of SSJ4, the form has a lot of unique moves. See Kid's level 3 for example. It'd be a missed opportunity to just make it a skin.
Not that we don't have enough Gokus already lol
Give me Badman Vegeta or give me death.
They did with Noel in BlazBlue: Chrono Phantasma/Chrono Phantasma Extend and Elphelt in Guilty Gear Xrd -REVELATOR-/Rev2. It's not that they don't do it so much as they tend not to make it a priority.
Ahh true, so yeah it'd be better to save SSJ4 Goku as a unique character (I don't mind all the Gokus lol, he is the main character after all). But yeah, you get what I mean. Give me Vegeta with the pink vacation shirt damnit, or even Blue Evolution Vegeta which is just a darker blue!
Yeah I didn't necessarily mean they NEVER never do it, just, like you said, not a priority.
Which I think is a damn shame.
Casual Piccolo!
Cop Krillin!
Farmer Goku!
Gimme those silly Halloween or Christmas chibi costumes but in the actual game!
I'll take it all!
Only if they give Bluegeta the self explosion move! He was my favorite part of ToP. ;_;
I'd like Buu Saga Vegeta's and Trunks Cell Games attire, but I can see ArcSys making Majin Vegeta a separate character. They can do DBS Trunks with no issue imo.
like, I'd legit play 5 bucks for a costume, same as a new char, because I only really play as 4-5 chars. Rather than buying season pass charcs I won't ever play, I'd rather see my mains in something different.