As long as Sakurai is in charge, Goku will never get in.
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He has changed his opinion on characters and stuff before but regardless I don't see a new Smash director or Nintendo fighting to get Goku in lol
It's a shame given that Goku's most recent story arc was basically Smash Bros.
Changed his mind, sure. But inserting a character into a game all about video games who isn't a video game characters is quite a leap. And no, Goku isn't a video game character. He's an anime character who gets put into a log of video games. Like we don't say Michael Jackson is a video game character because he's in Moonwalker.
Bandai sure in hell would. lol
Smash used to be all about Nintendo characters. Then they added Cloud, who is about as far from being a Nintendo character as you can get without delving into competitor's exclusives. Also, Goku isn't just in a lot of video games, he's been in them since like 2 years after his first appearance and his franchise was carried primarily by video games for a solid decade. I agree that if they ever decided to add non-game characters, Popeye should go first, but I'd say Goku should be second.
Snake came out before cloud and around the same time as MGS4, a PS3 exclusive, even had some music from that game. Smash is a celebration of Video games hense why they would use the popular or well known character to represent a series Cloud for FF and Ryu for SF.
So why did this thread turn into smash stuff for Goku?
I know that
we'd get luffy in that case
it's part of the cycle now I guess
I know Snake came first, I never said he didn't. I'm just saying that Smash used to be a celebration of Nintendo characters for the whole first 2 games, and that got gradually eroded to the point that even Cloud got in. Going from 'no non-Nintendo characters' to Cloud is a bigger jump than going from 'no non-videogame characters' to Goku.
Michael Jackson wasn't in a commercial with Mario advertising the SNES and in a boat load of games for three decades so miss me with that comparison.
Lotus asked me how long I planned on keeping my Avatar.
Does Buster Bunny have Goku's extensive video game history?
The reasons Goku should get a spot compile and I'm rarely making an argument because of one.
Goku has been in video games since before most of us were even born and is still relevant today.
Has a bigger history on Nintendo systems than most of the Smash roster.
Again, why would you not want to kamehameha Mario? This would be like deciding not to make Space Jam. This is like passing on The Rock for Fast Five.
Sure, you can continue business as usual, but why would you do that when you can be something special.
Because Goku isn't a video game character. He's an anime character who has been in a lot of games, more often based on the anime. You know another anime character who has been in video games long before Goku, Kenshiro from Fist of the North Star who just got a game released this year in March.
Also, "why would you not want to kamehameha Mario", we already have Mario that does a type a Kamehameha on top of Ryu, one of the original Kamehameha type fighters. And, " would be like deciding not to make Space Jam", given how Space Jam kinda sucks, that isn't helping your point.
Like I've said, if he doesn't get in, he doesn't get in and that's fine. Won't bitch at all.
But he's more than qualified. That's all I'm saying.
There's no hoop to jump through, just acknowledging the history perfectly laid out for all of us to look at and appreciate.
Okay? But is Kenshiro nearly as iconic as Goku or all that relevant today? No, so what's your point?
Even if you don't like Space Jam, it was still an iconic crossover.
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You know I'm still gonna remember these conversations when it happens right? Take note of the amount of obnoxious nose rubbing you're signing up for.
The vindication will be greater than anything you've ever seen. I'll make Apocalypse seem humble by comparison.
They ran out of those like two games ago. Every thing else is bottom of the barrel tier
Gotta look out for the dozen people that'll cream their pants over Geno and Bandana Dee.
We can set the world on fire, but let's dig into further obscurity for those fans.
Have you ever played a little game called Eternal Darkness?
They gave the WII FIT TRAINER a slot, come on.
So many more deserving characters to pick from.
(No, not Waluigi)
Kenshiro in many ways is more iconic than Goku since Fist of North Star is the grandfather of Shōnen. And Smash isn't just 'who relevant today'. I mean, any Smash fan knows that.
Space Jam isn't iconic. That's Who Frame Roger Rabbit. Space Jam wasn't even really a crossover since all it had was the Merry Melody characters. House of Mouse is more of a crossover.
And they would still be better than Goku.
Off the top of my head. Elma from Xenoblade Chronicles X, Rex or Prya (although I really want Mythra or Morag) from Xenoblade 2.
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Yeah sure, the people definitely want Kenshiro more than Goku. You got it.
That's really isn't the point since you were talking about 'iconic'. The point is that you can pick any anime character to be in Smash if they're been in a game according to you.
But since you want 'popular and recent', Luffy from One Piece. He has unique powers, different forms, the best selling manga in the world that's still ongoing, huge in Japan, and have several dozen games across Nintendo systems.
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I don't know who I was expecting.
But wow ...
Let's shit on Goku so Platinum fans can feel better about their game that bombed.
I'm not an Isaac fan, but at least this makes sense. Though it is more dudes with swords.
Wonderful 101 is wholly owned by Nintendo. And what does a game bombing have to do with quality?
It's not even that, it's about relevancy - His moveset made up of all the other Wonderful Ones just makes sense for something like Smash.
To be fair though, that game does deserve a second chance and Smash representation together with a Switch port would be perfect.
Very underrated.
Something from Advance Wars would be cool to see too.
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Stop cherrypicking everything I say.
"any anime character to be in Smash if they're been in a game according to you."
I did not say that. I even clarified on this exact page that's not what I meant.
Iconic in games, anime and manga.
Three decades of appearances in games.
More appearances on Nintendo systems than MOST of the Smash roster.
Literally animated with Mario in an SNES commercial.
Namco is developing Smash.
Individually, those reasons aren't worth much. Combined, that's deserving of a spot.
Again, if it doesn't happen, that's fair. Just saying, don't dismiss the possibility.
Do you give the slightest shit about Wonder Red?
What makes him "more deserving" besides that specific fanbase wanting validation?
You can't scoff at Wii Fit Trainer and then go, "but Yo Wonder Red Y'all".
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So Luffy outside an old commercial that was badly animated.
At least you know you're doing it now.
I love Arms, but I'm not expecting reps in the base game because it's so soon. Wouldn't complain if they made the cut. Note how Squid Kid wasn't Smash 4 DLC.
I don't know what the second game is.
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