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Is there any word on a mondo vinyl repress of the sketchbook, or dune 2 soundtrack vinyl release?
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Yes we do.
She's never born in the movie. She's inside the womb communicating to them from within. There's one vision of grown up Alia though.
Stunning fan made poster published today:
View: https://x.com/matthewceo/status/1759929977854718206?s=46&t=Z9DqSWZr7M0RkGt-vUPHLQ
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Oh, that's messed up. So it fits! I'm excited to see how the ending of the movie is handled then, considering her role in the book. No need for details though!
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I'm really curious about that ending.
New tv spot with a few new looks at the characters:
View: https://x.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1759950617009627428?s=20
View: https://x.com/variety/status/1759997554563973187?s=46&t=Z9DqSWZr7M0RkGt-vUPHLQ
New tv spot with a few new looks at the characters:
View: https://x.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1759950617009627428?s=20
View: https://x.com/variety/status/1759997554563973187?s=46&t=Z9DqSWZr7M0RkGt-vUPHLQ
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Great article by Entertainment Weekly. Quite a few tidbits in there.
View: https://x.com/ew/status/1759986486383128804?s=46&t=Z9DqSWZr7M0RkGt-vUPHLQ
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTuBf_MFjMc
View: https://youtu.be/XDLfH3LRR9A?si=qfjZZhVh2Q6T-OUN
View: https://x.com/ew/status/1759986486383128804?s=46&t=Z9DqSWZr7M0RkGt-vUPHLQ
The stars of 'Dune: Part Two' break down the sci-fi epic
'Dune: Part Two' stars Timothée Chalamet, Zendaya, Austin Butler, and Florence Pugh preview director Denis Villeneuve's highly anticipated sci-fi epic.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTuBf_MFjMc
View: https://youtu.be/XDLfH3LRR9A?si=qfjZZhVh2Q6T-OUN
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Dune: Part Two | Social Media Impressions #2
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More impressions are coming out now. I'll be updating as they come in.
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DUNE PART 2: Epic filmmaking on a scale that we haven’t seen since THE RETURN OF THE KING. I will be seeing this again, many times. I loved Timotheé Chalamet in this, as the reluctant messiah called to challenge the universe. What a movie. Tremendously great.
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If Dennis wasn't so adamant about doing Messiah, I would assume Paul dies at the end. Then there's no need for a sequel
That would make no sense whatsoever and goes against many of the themes of Dune. It would also make it a lot more generic and typical of this sort of messianic story, rather than going super hard and being DUNE.
Idk maybe Dennis wanted to take it in a different direction if he thought the themes might be too hard for casual audiences.
But since he wants to do Messiah the point is mute.
Have you ever heard Denis Villeneuve talk about about Dune in any of his interviews from the past 5 years? Lol. Dune is an obsession for him. Taking it in a different direction or thinking the themes are too hard would be a heresy to him. :)
View: https://x.com/mangiotto/status/1760147693479883109?s=46&t=gbYgL_rvpbF6qlAMTodElw
There would be riots in the streets
Book spoilers:
I assume they will show us the start of the Jihad/Holy War.
Hey guys,
I have seen the DUNC 2 at the Abu Dhabi Premiere 3 days ago. AMA.
Overall, I think the movie was fantastic, but I prefer the more slow burn visual approach of the first movie and world building. (BR 2049 Is my fav Dennis movie for reference). A lot needs to happen here and it does. I did like the ending a lot tho and Dennis stuck the landing.
While the action sequence were well paced and well shot, it almost felt like this had to be more action packed than perhaps Dennis is comfortable with. IMO of course, but I can see some people prefering this.
Acting wise - Timothy, Austin and Javiar Bardem were personal standouts for me. Others were great.
Craft was classic Dennis. Immaculate photography and production design.
I have seen the DUNC 2 at the Abu Dhabi Premiere 3 days ago. AMA.
Overall, I think the movie was fantastic, but I prefer the more slow burn visual approach of the first movie and world building. (BR 2049 Is my fav Dennis movie for reference). A lot needs to happen here and it does. I did like the ending a lot tho and Dennis stuck the landing.
While the action sequence were well paced and well shot, it almost felt like this had to be more action packed than perhaps Dennis is comfortable with. IMO of course, but I can see some people prefering this.
Acting wise - Timothy, Austin and Javiar Bardem were personal standouts for me. Others were great.
Craft was classic Dennis. Immaculate photography and production design.
I have a few spoilery questions if that's okay (as someone who has read the book like 18 times lol):
1. Is it revealed that Jessica is the Baron's daughter?
2. Is Alia born during the movie?
3. Is there any time jump?
4. A lot of people talk about a "haunting" ending. Does it show the start of Paul's Holy War?
5. Does the story feel "complete" in the end, or does it clearly need a third movie?
6. Does Jessica get enough screentime? She's my favorite.
2. Is Alia born during the movie?
3. Is there any time jump?
4. A lot of people talk about a "haunting" ending. Does it show the start of Paul's Holy War?
5. Does the story feel "complete" in the end, or does it clearly need a third movie?
6. Does Jessica get enough screentime? She's my favorite.
Sorry for all the questions haha.
MAJOR SPOILERS / READ AT OWN DESCRITION
1. Yes. Jessica drinks the water of life/worm poison to discover this.
2. No. She talks to her mother through the womb but we see a vision of older Alia (Anya Taylor joy) thru Paul
3. No time jumps. But the pacing quickens to show the war expanding across Arrakis
4. Yes! Loved this as Dennis really leaned into the darker side of the books turning Paul into just as brutal messiah figure that the freman are blindly following. The defeated Sardukar bodies are burnt just like the Atreides bodies were in the first film.
5. Paul's revenge arc feels complete. But the holy war is setup as a cliffhanger so yes there will be a third movie hook.
6. Jessica gets a lot of screentime and Rebecca Ferguson is really good. Won't reveal more. :)
2. No. She talks to her mother through the womb but we see a vision of older Alia (Anya Taylor joy) thru Paul
3. No time jumps. But the pacing quickens to show the war expanding across Arrakis
4. Yes! Loved this as Dennis really leaned into the darker side of the books turning Paul into just as brutal messiah figure that the freman are blindly following. The defeated Sardukar bodies are burnt just like the Atreides bodies were in the first film.
5. Paul's revenge arc feels complete. But the holy war is setup as a cliffhanger so yes there will be a third movie hook.
6. Jessica gets a lot of screentime and Rebecca Ferguson is really good. Won't reveal more. :)
Thanks! Appreciate the answers. Makes me even more excited to see it :) Glad you liked it! I'll be really intrigued to see how well the movies play back-to-back.
I finally starting reading the first book a few days ago, wanting to devour it before seeing Part 2 soon. I just finished "Book 1", and I am absolutely loving it. I don't really know how to describe it but the prose is extremely dialogue and discussion heavy and I did not expect that. While I was reading the first few chapters I was like huh, this is like all dialogue and internal thought, but I loved it and continue to love it.
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I'm starting to get the hang of Dune: Imperium, the basics at least. I think I got all the symbols down in my head. Gonna try to complete the last tutorial today. And next week, after seeing Part Two, I'll try get into the Classic Dune board game in Tabletop Simulator. Will read up on the rules and watch some games being played on YouTube.
New tv spot with some new footage:
View: https://youtu.be/aFu4uKhR5IE?si=z5P42xmeWUlyQ2LU
New tv spot with some new footage:
View: https://youtu.be/aFu4uKhR5IE?si=z5P42xmeWUlyQ2LU
Reminder to self to reply to this post again, once Armond White's review is up...
"Villeneuve struggles with the material and fails to live up to the achievements of Michael Bay, who may be modern cinema's least "sensitive" auteur—never sadistic like Haneke or Tarantino and yet not pious for a second. As a millennial master, Bay's hype machine is a funhouse mirror."
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The review embargo is up!
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I like this description of the ending from Variety's review:
And another review confirmed Anya's role:
She's Alia. My favorite Dune character, so that's hype.
Dune: Part Two | Review Thread (RT: 98%) Entertainment
https://www.empireonline.com/movies/reviews/dune-part-two/ https://www.ign.com/articles/dune-part-two-review-timothee-chalamet-zendaya-denis-villeneuve https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-reviews/dune-part-two-review-timothee-chalamet-zendaya-1235830061/...
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I like this description of the ending from Variety's review:
And another review confirmed Anya's role:
She's Alia. My favorite Dune character, so that's hype.
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lets get the bad review out of the way
View: https://twitter.com/IndieWire/status/1760348729985421388
View: https://twitter.com/IndieWire/status/1760348729985421388
I was expecting good reviews. I was not expecting a high 90's on RT lmao. The wait for Sunday is excruciating.
There are no chapter numbers. The Baron just left the room with Jessica and Piter. It's a reprint hardcover. Ace Hardcover Edition 1999 31st Printing
If you want the exact spot where the first movie ends with Paul walking off with the Fremen, thats at the chapter 53% through the book that starts with the princess Irulan quote "The Fremen were supreme in that quality the ancients called 'spannungsbogen'"
There will be a little overlap with the first movie in that chapter because Denis condensed a couple moments into that final scene of the first movie.
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They reprinted the sketchbook not long ago I thought so I feel like if they're releasing anything soon it'll be for Part 2.
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The soundtrack for Part Two is out in Australia. Comes out elsewhere tomorrow.
Dune: Part Two doing twice as good as Dune: Part One in pre-sales:
View: https://x.com/ErikDavis/status/1760706706395287889?s=20
A new faction teased for Dune: Spice Wars, coming Feb 29. Likely the Ixians:
View: https://x.com/DuneSpiceWars/status/1760695873342706145?s=20
And the Hamilton x Dune watch is up for pre-order:
www.hamiltonwatch.com
Dune: Part Two doing twice as good as Dune: Part One in pre-sales:
View: https://x.com/ErikDavis/status/1760706706395287889?s=20
A new faction teased for Dune: Spice Wars, coming Feb 29. Likely the Ixians:
View: https://x.com/DuneSpiceWars/status/1760695873342706145?s=20
And the Hamilton x Dune watch is up for pre-order:
Ventura XXL Bright Dune Limited Edition | H24614330
The Ventura XXL Bright Dune limited edition is inspired by the wrist device created by Hamilton for the film “Dune: Part Two”
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How is the sound design and OST? I really enjoyed that aspect in part 1 especially with scenes like the Salusa Secundus sardaukar intro and the quake of worm sign. Is part 2 just as rich?
Also how do they play
Stilgar's look of awe and Paul's uncomfortability at the end? Or perhaps, is the ending pretty similar to the book or is it extended past the confrontation with Feyd?
Sound Design and OST remain incredible. The craft is just so god damn good that there really isn't anything to complaint. The new romantic theme for Chani/Paul is the standout.
Being a bit more action heavy there are less sfx that do the 'world building' like the first one, but the best stuff from the first movie (worm signs) are still there.
Stilgar is sort of like 'comic relief' in parts with his awe and zeal for Paul as his prophet which surpirsingly worked and got a laugh from the audience. Dennis's films are often quite self serious so Javiar Bardem/Stilgar providing the laughs was kinda cute.
Paul is shown in a more sinister light in how he treats Chani, and prepares for the Holy War with the houses after defeating Feyd. This is the part everyone is hyping as the movie deliberately indulges in the darker themes of the book about people blindly following messiahs.
Being a bit more action heavy there are less sfx that do the 'world building' like the first one, but the best stuff from the first movie (worm signs) are still there.
Stilgar is sort of like 'comic relief' in parts with his awe and zeal for Paul as his prophet which surpirsingly worked and got a laugh from the audience. Dennis's films are often quite self serious so Javiar Bardem/Stilgar providing the laughs was kinda cute.
Paul is shown in a more sinister light in how he treats Chani, and prepares for the Holy War with the houses after defeating Feyd. This is the part everyone is hyping as the movie deliberately indulges in the darker themes of the book about people blindly following messiahs.
I rewatched Dune Pt1 on 4K UHD and I feel I NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS. The HDR in it is unbelievably good and better than what I've seen in any other film and most games. How is this possible?! Blade Runner 2049 looked really good in 4K but was still pretty much the same movie. Dune on the other, while it's disappointing that it's missing the IMAX ratio scenes, looks phenomenal. The contrast, lighting, everything. Even the subtle lensflares in Paul's visions look so different. Everything is elevated to a sense of hyper-reality with a real sense of glare, blinding brightness, or dimness and darkness as needed.
Never seen anything like this before. Am I high on spice????
Never seen anything like this before. Am I high on spice????
Roger Deakins, cinematographer on BR2049, doesn't really like HDR so it doesn't really use the higher brightness ceiling of HDR at all. It's basically SDR in an HDR container. It looks great, but it's not really using the full spectrum available to the medium. Dune was shot by Greig Fraser, so you're getting a pretty different approach that happily dips into big bold highlights.
Thing with Dune though, is the whole look is largely restrained and measured a lot of the time, which probably makes the highlights stand out more when they do. Like Fraser isn't afraid to have entire scenes play out well under exposed like the Gom Jabbar scene or the worm confrontation towards the end. Your eyes are forced to adjust to these incredibly dim scenes, and then moments later you'll be bombarded with the piercing lights of the Bene Gesserit spacecraft taking off. It is quite dazzling. And the decision to have the whole film processed onto a 35mm negative provides some grainy tactility to the whole look that ties things together. It looks both incredibly sharp/modern and also timeless/antiquated, just like the world of Dune! It's really one of my favourite 4k discs for these reasons.
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The soundtrack is out where I'm at. Should be out at midnight wherever you are!
View: https://open.spotify.com/album/1PeYjDmxcRNvxLd5mGHuCC?si=CrEOG-WHR7amA7nlvvtMLA
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Really? Was this done in post-production for the film in general, or only for the home video release? That's a really strange choice to take a digitally shot film and put it on 35mm before mastering again.
Please tell me that song from the third trailer is in this 🙏
It was done for the film in general, yeah. It's definitely a strange choice - the only other example of this as far as I know is The Batman, also shot by Fraser. These days we're starting to get a lot of cinematographers who want the ease and control that digital photography provides but want to avoid the overly clinical and sterile feel it can sometimes have, and there are a few ways to go about achieving this. Sometimes it's as simple as using less precise lenses with some more character (Moonlight, for example).
For Knives Out, Steve Yedlin + team opted to artificially recreate all the characteristics of film using meticulous post-processing effects, while Fraser opted to just scan the whole final edit of Dune onto 35mm and then back out. Both are quite effective I think.
How would that work for the IMAX scenes though? If it's been passed through 35mm wouldn't that be a downgrade?
Yes, well sort of, it's a fascinating one - this is why I've been sceptical about the push for Dune Part 2 to be shown in true 15/70mm IMAX film like it's Oppenheimer.
Like mostly every other film not directed by Nolan, Dune Part 1, when screened at IMAX, was only ever shown on 4K Laser digital. This was fine because the film was shot digitally (seems like it was shot natively at 4.5K), scanned on 35mm, then mastered in 4K. So it wouldn't seem like there'd be much value in screening it beyond 4K Laser digital.
Dune Part 2, however, coming off the success of Oppenheimer, is being screened on 15/70mm IMAX, which seems like it could be a bit of a gimmick, given it was still shot digitally. Although it was shot at 6.5K this time, so there's a bit more resolution to be mined there. Beyond that, it seems like it's not super clear as to whether they did the scanning to film again this time? Perhaps instead of scanning to 35mm, it was scanned to 1570mm IMAX instead (given they had to do this anyway), then scanned back to 4K for the digital master, although then, because of how clean and fine IMAX film is, you're not getting the same grainy tactility that was the whole point last time.
So I'm not sure what to make of it. I don't know if the 15/70mm will actually resolve more detail than the 4K digital transfer, and I'm not sure if it'll maintain the grainy characteristics of the first film. Regardless of any of this, I doubt it'll ever look quite as sharp as a film truly shot and presented in 15/70mm IMAX, but what do I know! I'm actually seeing the film on 4K Laser digital IMAX first, then a couple weeks later will catch it again on 15/70mm, so hopefully I'll get some clearer answers then!
I believe that's an "epic trailer" version of A Time of Quiet Between the Storms.
Don't think it's in the soundtrack.
That's fascinating. Thanks for all the details. Glad to see someone has been following the production in terms of the photography and mastering. It's also a reminder to me that Dune Pt1 was never actually ever screened in 15/70mm IMAX. I myself have only seen it in the 1.9:1 ratio IMAX Laser presentation as those are the only IMAX screens here.
Given how they've been pushing that more of Pt2 is in "IMAX format" and how it was shot in 6.5K instead, maybe their post-production will have been different too. Will be fascinating to hear about it after the fact.
People say it's one of the best blockbusters since Mad Max Fury Road that will win a lot of Oscars (I guess you can put Top Gun Maverick on this). I can't wait to see it!
Also question Denis Villeneuve says there are scripts for Dune 3. So Dune Part 2 does not finish Paul's story?
Also question Denis Villeneuve says there are scripts for Dune 3. So Dune Part 2 does not finish Paul's story?