sucks that he forgot the word uppity is racist. anyway, the rainforest situation is truly bleak.
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Eddie Huang annouces that he will go vegan on Instagram to save the Amazon
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Lowering demand for beef = no longer needing to plant excess amounts of soy to feed said cattle.
He's an international celebrity chef and influencer. He's the opposite of your point.
"palm oil in your favorite vegan burger"
neither beyond or impossible use this, nor is it a common ingredient in any vegan burger
neither beyond or impossible use this, nor is it a common ingredient in any vegan burger
Even though it wouldn't help the amazon in this scenario, quitting beef in general is still a good move for the planet.
Several studies have found that 30% of farmable land on the planet is dedicated to growing feed crops for livestock. The largest share of that by far going to beef cattle. Beef cattle farming is so inefficient it's crazy.
also pinning palm oil on vegans is getting real tired. the bulk of the palm oil produced isn't going to vegan marketed products, its even becoming less common in vegan products due to activism/awareness. meat eaters consume the most of it.
good for him, hope he can stick with it because it always looks kinda bad when a celeb goes vegan then quietly drops off
Good for him to use his influence to hopefully get others to change. For me, a heart condition forced me to abandon most meat (only spare amounts of chicken and mostly fish are allowed). I'm coping but it sucks. Five guys is opening near my workplace and it's gonna be a struggle not to go in there one day lol.
Not blaming you for them, to be clear, but these tweets don't understand basic economics or how interconnected the global economy is. If US beef demand plummeted, US beef producers would have to turn to exporting. Exporting to some of the same markets as Brazilian beef. That would end up decreasing Brazilian production.
Huang's gesture is a good one. One person won't have an impact, but hopefully a celeb chef trend that leads to even a 1% reduction would.
Unless totalitarian socialist governments take over the world and ban beef production or make it unattainable for the vast majority of people, our best realistic hope is for fake meats to get good enough to destroy most demand for the real thing. Beyond Meat has made me pretty hopeful, and the products are only going to get better.
Celebrity chef. There's many popular people you haven't heard of. Doesn't make them any less influential.
Maybe stop telling people off for wanting to make a difference but instead say "This is a great move and will help a bit, but here's some things you should know and here are other ways to make an impact... it would also be great if you considered also cutting this out, or adding pressure to have it banned."
I swear people getting angry and basically saying "Fuck your stupid uneducated asses" at others wanting to do what little they can about the environment is just gross.
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Plus if they weren't growing palm they'd be growing some other crop with worse yields. Replacing palm oil with other oils generally means more land use is required, so we should be supporting sustainable palm oil.
This is a lot of steps from US consumers eat less beef to Bolsonaro stops clearing the Amazon. You could do this for any number of things. It takes a long time for a consumer choice to go through the world economy and make material changes in the world, and at that point it might be too late. Markets are not instantly self correcting.
That's why I included the second tweet. I'm not telling people to keep eating beef. I'm trying to keep people's perspective in check.
Unfortunately the repeal of the Country of Origin Labeling act mucks the waters up;
Beef that's raised in Mexico or Brazil can be processed in the US and then labeled a product of the US.
Still, from what I found only about 5% of our imported beef comes from Brazil, and in 2017 was decreased due to health concerns.
I understand you weren't trying to be like that (hence I only quoted the tweets and not the rest of your post) but especially the last tweet is so confrontational. This sort of hostile reaction is just so typical of the dipolar opinions on the internet - no room for discussion, only polarised reactions.
Welcome to the club Eddie. I don't think you'll be with us very long but I've been surprised before. Also this forum is the fucking worst when it comes to anything vegan related lol.
There's still problems with this line of thinking. First of all, going vegan is a privilege many people can not afford.
How about we understand that the products we consume do not magically materialize on the supermarket shelves...
While are right about the first part, attacking vegans over stuff like soy is incredibly stupid for reasony already mentioned in this thread.
Yeah, it's not perfect, but it's hell of a lot better.
Lab meat requires no animal exploitation, so many vegans would have no problems with it.
Just because you weren't looking or it wasn't as bad, doesn't mean it wasn't happening.
It has been on fire for a long time, the fires this year are being reported as being upto around twice as bad as the same time last year though indicating a particularly bad year and escalation.
The majority of the land cleared is used for livestock (mostly beef) related elements including growing crops to feed livestock around the world. Brazil is I believe the number one beef exporter on the planet.
These are just facts, do with them what you want, there are plenty of things I do that I know aren't good but I do them anyway, just don't pretend there aren't consequences to our choices.
Well ambassador of vegans you may want to check with your peeps cause a 5sec Google search has more than a few vegans saying the opposite.
The cynical "you've saved us" messages are pretty awful tbh. Using a platform to make a statement like this will inspire others, and the more people take this step the more likely change will occur. This is a VERY good thing that this person did.
Yes, we do need more people to go vegan.
If someone invents a machine that runs on snark, I'm sure you and others in this thread will be of great help in fighting climate change and environmental destruction. Until that day happens, what exactly are you doing?
Hint: You don't feed cattle soy beans.
It's ok to eat beef in moderation as long as it's produced locally and in a sustainable manner.
Instantly, no. But they can be extremely fast. For example, check out this article on Brazilian soybean production: https://www.reuters.com/article/bra...to-china-fall-13-in-2019-report-idUSL5N22R87Y
Brazil's soybean production increased extremely quickly as China decreased imports from the US, and then dropped quickly as well when Chinese swine fever hit. Point is, changes in demand are transmitted through the system quickly. If US consumers stopped eating beef overnight, the Amazon would start recovering quickly. The faster people switch to beef alternatives, the better off we'll be.
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That's not true.
All meat demand cannot be met via local or sustainable means. The met industry exists because it HAS to exist to to meet the demand.
All demand for meat contributes to the meat industry's existence.
You can't exist outside of this if you choose to eat meat.
Of course, choosing to eat less and only using sustainable/local sources is much better... but there isn't room for everyone to do this.
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