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FIA Formula One 2019 |OT| Oil Mining vs. Energy Drinks vs. Big Tobacco, pick your poison
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But Ferrari one two constructors and one driver's championship right after that? So how did it fuck them?
I am glad I didnt buy the F1 package. There is no reason to watch the races anymore other than tradition. Hamilton is an absolute monster of a driver, but if you give him a car with no competition, then it will always be the same. Redbull is worst than last year, Williams is a joke, McLaren is a waste, and the rest are just there to create a sense of competition.
I know F1 has always have dominant cars and drivers, but there is nothing unpredictable like in the past, no Pastor Maldonado winning, or a Rookie Vettel, Hamilton winning.
I'll keep watching as always, but damn is becoming a borefest.
I know F1 has always have dominant cars and drivers, but there is nothing unpredictable like in the past, no Pastor Maldonado winning, or a Rookie Vettel, Hamilton winning.
I'll keep watching as always, but damn is becoming a borefest.
They literally fucked them in 2005 because their car was designed for quick stints since Schumacher can pump out quali laps lap after lap. The rule was so stupid it was abolished the very next year
Also by 2007 tyre wars was gone since bridgestone became the sole supplier of F1
As much as most of the things went right in Schumachers career, if everything ABSOLUTELY did he would be a double digit world champion. Fucking ridiculous
I'm a big Hamilton fan, and I've said this before, but it is a shame seeing him driving away at the front of a race. I think he's the best overtaker in F1 history, so I'd prefer it if they were closer and he was starting 4th or 5th. That's when he really shows he's a cut above the rest.
I think even with more comparable cars, Hamilton would still win. He has a tremendous talent, and having no teams to give him a real challenge will only make some people say he was not that great, but just had a better car.
Schumacher already experienced that, people saying he had no competition. Maybe he was just THAT much better than other people plus the combination of staff that willingly followed him on Ferrari.
I'd like to see Hamilton beat Vettel / Schumacher's record of 13 wins in a season and Vettel's 9 wins a row if he's going to dominate a season. But the long straights and slow corners in Baku makes me think Ferrari should be closer to them at that race.
We gonna pretend last race didn't happen?
Bahrain was amazing.
That would be even more boring. Even Alain Prost looked pretty bored when waving the flag. Hopefully more of a race in Baku.
If you're going to dominate you may as well do it completely like Vettel did in his Red Bull peak. I still think everyone is overreacting, China is usually dull if there isn't a safety car and Mercedes were well beaten in Bahrain until LeClerc had engine problems.
If you're going to dominate you may as well do it completely like Vettel did in his Red Bull peak. I still think everyone is overreacting, China is usually dull if there isn't a safety car and Mercedes were well beaten in Bahrain until LeClerc had engine problem
Im really hoping Bott
He looked bored cause his teams fucking car is shit, i cannot believe he was saying their engine is almost mercedes levels and he even said " nobody can deny that, thats a fact ".
Maybe a combination of both. It's true Renault has a major reliability problem and that is already becoming an image problem which is even a bigger problem if you're selling cars with the same name.
One thing I love about people that watch F1 (it's unclear whether to call some of them fans or not because all they seem to do is gripe about the sport) is that their views change by race. After Bahrain, 2019 was shaping up to be one of the best seasons ever. After China, this is shaping up to be one of the worst years of the turbo hybrid era.
And after each race, we always get folks saying this is the last race they're going to watch and they're done with F1. To which I say, good, see you later (you'll be back in two weeks of course).
This is an awesome sport that, by the way, has often been this way, by which I mean "boring" with not a whole lot of overtaking. Last year I watched through a bunch of races from the 90s, and a few years back rewatched every race from 2007 to today. Generally speaking, it's long been the case that a) there's not a whole lot of overtaking and b) there are OP drivers and teams that dominate which leads to "boring" championships. You don't have to go back too far before the start of this season to find multiple seasons where Brundle hopes out loud that new regulations will lead to a more competitive field.
I think these regulations are great. You know what's shit? Refuelling. You know what looks like absolute garbage? Grooved tires. You know who was a crap commentator? James Allen. 2000s races are about 10% less watchable because Allen won't stop saying the fast cars are "scything" through the pack. You know what looks awesome now? The cars, and the presentation. And this field of drivers is probably the most talented we've had in ages and ages. Go look at 2009 for instance to see a long list of scrubs that somehow were blessed enough to get a seat.
The only thing F1 needs more of is bad weather. I don't know how you get that aside from luck (there have been one or two seasons that have had a ton of rainy races and it was awesome -- wasn't 2009 one, and 2008 was also bad from memory, Spa being the stand-out). Last year wasn't rainy at all and this year's been bad so far. We need it to fucken bucket down at some of these circuits for some good times.
And after each race, we always get folks saying this is the last race they're going to watch and they're done with F1. To which I say, good, see you later (you'll be back in two weeks of course).
This is an awesome sport that, by the way, has often been this way, by which I mean "boring" with not a whole lot of overtaking. Last year I watched through a bunch of races from the 90s, and a few years back rewatched every race from 2007 to today. Generally speaking, it's long been the case that a) there's not a whole lot of overtaking and b) there are OP drivers and teams that dominate which leads to "boring" championships. You don't have to go back too far before the start of this season to find multiple seasons where Brundle hopes out loud that new regulations will lead to a more competitive field.
I think these regulations are great. You know what's shit? Refuelling. You know what looks like absolute garbage? Grooved tires. You know who was a crap commentator? James Allen. 2000s races are about 10% less watchable because Allen won't stop saying the fast cars are "scything" through the pack. You know what looks awesome now? The cars, and the presentation. And this field of drivers is probably the most talented we've had in ages and ages. Go look at 2009 for instance to see a long list of scrubs that somehow were blessed enough to get a seat.
The only thing F1 needs more of is bad weather. I don't know how you get that aside from luck (there have been one or two seasons that have had a ton of rainy races and it was awesome -- wasn't 2009 one, and 2008 was also bad from memory, Spa being the stand-out). Last year wasn't rainy at all and this year's been bad so far. We need it to fucken bucket down at some of these circuits for some good times.
I'm not sure it's a good idea, because they often delay or stop the races altogether with rain, but it's quite easy. Do the races in countries where it rains a lot at the time of the race.
The knee-jerk reactions will never stop.
I remember seeing after Australia a tonne of "lol good job Ferrari gave Merceses easy title season over". After one race.
Really, and have you forgotten he matched Alonso in his rookie year?
Malaysia had a very similar opening complex and was also a better circuit overall.
China is an okay track, but it's poor in comparison.
The casual observer would really struggle to tell the difference between China and Malaysia's S1.
At least we have a race to point to next time someone asks why we don't have two mandatory pit stops.
We got to see some of the cars' pace too. RBR look like they're still a step behind Ferrari from the very weak first stint and Verstappen was only able to get ahead of Lec and fight Vettel thanks to the undercut. Gasly still way behind Verstappen, but also quite a bit faster than F1.5 when not stuck behind them.
We got to see some of the cars' pace too. RBR look like they're still a step behind Ferrari from the very weak first stint and Verstappen was only able to get ahead of Lec and fight Vettel thanks to the undercut. Gasly still way behind Verstappen, but also quite a bit faster than F1.5 when not stuck behind them.
Yeah was probably Malaysia. I was thinking Shanghai would be a far better circuit without the final corner and that's exactly what Malaysia is. Without the final corner VET, VES would have gone into t1 side by side.
Verstappen was not near Hamilton's level last season. The car didn't cause all those mistakes.
Glad I didn't stay up for that snoozefest.
Those rule changes can't come fast enough, this is the F1 I left years ago and came back to same mess...sigh. (it's always been like this I'm just bored with merc always being on top)
Those rule changes can't come fast enough, this is the F1 I left years ago and came back to same mess...sigh. (it's always been like this I'm just bored with merc always being on top)
I like Verstappen. But people really need to stop thinking Hamilton would get smashed by any of the new guys.
Hamilton is an exceptional driver. Like sure Max got the headlines with his Brazil 2016 drive. But Hamilton drove as well if not better that race in front.
Ehh... I've stopped watching live, and I've been an F1 fan for more than a quarter of a century.
Ferrari can't outdevelop Mercedes, so we're now looking at possibly their most dominant season ever.
Exactly. If the roles were reversed, I'd expect Mercedes to recover, but as is, I expect RBR to start gaining on Ferrari.
If a driver like Rosberg can beat Hamilton with the same equipment then Verstappen would give him a proper run for his money.
'Like Rosberg' as if Rosberg is suddenly not a great driver. If anything he has bested all his previous teammates.
Let's put it this way. Sure I think Verstappen would be able to beat Hamilton in a race when given the same equipment, probably even a couple races. But to beat him consistently over a season is a whole other ballpark.
Rosberg has gone on record saying the incredible mental toll it took on him to beat Hamilton. Litterally to the point of "I need to lose another kilogram on my legs so I can gain 3 hundreds of a second". And Rosberg himself is a very good driver. But that championship nearly destroyed him mentally, and then he still needed things like Malaysia to go his way.
A championship isn't just won on raw pace, but also consistency and mental fortitude. Verstappen has the potential 100%, so has LeClerc. But at the moment I don't think he's there yet. He's had a very good start of the year though and I hope he keeps this up.
Long Beach works with everything. I hate street circuits with a passion, but Long Beach is still one of my fav circuits in sim racing.
I would agree with you just looking at the scores, and I fully expect Merc to win this year, but I do think the 'cruise' is an overreaction. Of the 3 races, 1 was completely dominated by a Ferrari driver from practice until a few laps before the finish line. He broke down, yes, but it's too soon to say if that was a sign of things to come or just a fluke.
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