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I feel like Tifa had a similar line in the original though? I don't like it but it's not new
Like the other members of Avalanche she understands Jessie is just putting up an act, she is an actress. Hell, Wedge literally tells Cloud this.
Tbh, I didn't really immediately get jealousy outta that stuff in that graveyard, she was just scared shitless of the spooky mess.
Which is whole other can of worms I'm not particularly fond of. Either way, it's probably not a discussion getting into, I guess. Just ignore me lol
I'd much rather they skip the open world completely. Just keep being linear to really focus on the story telling. The SSD will no doubt help them to get rid of some of those slow moments where you constantly need to crawl under stuff.
Not that I remember and definitely not during the sewers part since there isn't really the same choice outcome like in the remake that gives a scene before the other wakes up.
The jealousy part isn't new though if that is what you mean. She getd mad at Shinra HQ when they are in prison.
Nah. They'll get to Nibelheim and then there will some complete nonsense pulled by Sephiroth so they have to beat apathy to summoning their Buster swords using the power of awakening. Honestly I expect a couple of chapters pulled out their arses (also a chapter dedicated to Yuffie probably around Gonganga)
Her family is almost assuredly dead, however like Biggs she could be alive. I hope so anyway, she is my favorite character in the game that isn't a core team member.
You know this could actually be a good change and I could see them thinking this way. Keep Jessie alive, but have her lose her family. Having her cope with the loss of that could be interesting, maybe that's why they introduced them.
That criticism probably applies to any other rpg that has world ending stakes (for example The Witcher 3 also has space-time shenanigans while you're solving low stakes problems for random folks, including more lighthearted stuff).
It's normal for a big game to have some range in its tone, that doesn't mean it's a bad thing. The only thing that matters is the pacing, and FF7R is well handled on that front IMO.
I think it could cause her to drop the act she is always putting up and finally become serious about things. Although I do enjoy her playful banter.
Okay so I realize some people didn't like the J E N O V A orchestration in the beginning but having that and then suddenly hearing the original version was probably one of my favourite moments.
I also want Red and Aerith to have buddy moments.
Ehhh Jessies crush is very real but her clingyness is an act. I think the fact is they just didn't care to write any kind of relationship between Tifa and Jessie so they ignored any idea of her being bothered by Jessie being so OTT with Cloud.
I agree and hope they continue with it for the rest. The moments between them was pretty well done. There should be scenes of them doing things together in part 2.
I also want Red and Aerith to have buddy moments.
I'm not a fan of thirsty Jessie but part of that is probably the script difference in Japanese as well. Too many tropes🤢
That was probably because they knew she was going to bite it and didn't put in the effort
That was probably because they knew she was going to bite it and didn't put in the effort
I sort of agree with you that she was inconsistent sometimes, but I was subscribed to her youtube channel before she even announced she was gonna be in the same so I was already familiar with her. Think it was just me hearing her normal voice beneath Aeriths on occasion than anything lol. I think she did a great job overall
Huh, I feel like I really remember a "so it's nothing more?" line from her, maybe it was actually from Aerith though
Also I'm saying it now. SE better make it four playable characters for part 2. We already had a 4th guest who assisted and really the only reason I can excuse three playable in Part 1 is because you almost never get a moment with all four party members playable.
VII has 9 party members and I don't want to be limited to three like the original. GIVE ME FOUR SE.
I want my dream team of Cloud, Aerith, Red and Cid.
VII has 9 party members and I don't want to be limited to three like the original. GIVE ME FOUR SE.
I want my dream team of Cloud, Aerith, Red and Cid.
The world doesn't end in FFVII or the compilation. There's something else at play here.
The world doesn't end in FFVII or the compilation. There's something else at play here.
Um, he's probably talking about the huge meteor he wants to summon? The end of the world they're wanted to avoid by killing the fate monsters?
It was one of those exciting moments, then fell flat to "wtf was that? Show me more!" and I got nothing.
If that was the case than why show the vision of Red 13 500 years in the future and why would that vision be concerning enough for Red to say this is our future if we don't defeat fate now, and give the party the agency to do it? The implication to me is that the excess use of liestream stop meteor is eventually unrecoverable for humanity or the plane't wellbeing
The world doesn't end in FFVII or the compilation. There's something else at play here.
Sephiroth is manipulating the team imo.
He's showing them visions of parts of what happened, like Midgar being destroyed, but not Holy saving the planet.
Same reason. Red is seeing the abandoned Midgar and thinks "Everyone died and we lost".
That's what I mean. That vision was enough to give the party the motivation to stop fate because it was a "bad ending". No need to throw in another random party
Hmm I see not everyone is much of a fan of the meta textual nature of the plot changes in remake. Personally I REALLY enjoyed it. I like the theme of defying fate and also the prospect of getting an alternate timeline, or even ways of exploring ways they may not be able to escape it if that's the case.
it may not be as easily digestible in a diegetic literal sense, but personally I'm fine with the game getting abstract. That's just me though.
it may not be as easily digestible in a diegetic literal sense, but personally I'm fine with the game getting abstract. That's just me though.
Sephiroth is also talking about the planet naturally ending / becoming something like the cosmic dust one day, but not him, because it's his plan to basically merge with the planet..
Although if he now already has these future seeing powers from just having floated in lifestream, I'm not sure how much powerful he needs to become. But in the original it was at God/planet range so maybe there's still room to grow.
Although if he now already has these future seeing powers from just having floated in lifestream, I'm not sure how much powerful he needs to become. But in the original it was at God/planet range so maybe there's still room to grow.
Here's an idea I had:
Sephiroth shows it to the party after they've defeated the whispers, no? Which means this is what they're headed toward in the current Remake timeline, not the one everyone had visions of before...
Considering the original FFVII has the Lifestream (which Aerith is part of) appear right before impact and stop Meteor, I suppose this might happen if Aerith survives in this timeline and doesn't become part of the Lifestream. Which I guess would end in Aerith still having to die to save the planet even if they can save her where she died in the original timeline.
Replaying on HM after having the ending sink in, and I honestly love the changes.
This is so much more interesting than a straight up remake, and they handled how they approached it really well.
I have no idea if they'll stick the landing, but this is even better than I'd hoped for. Such a great way to reinvigorate the story while staying respectful to the original.
This is so much more interesting than a straight up remake, and they handled how they approached it really well.
I have no idea if they'll stick the landing, but this is even better than I'd hoped for. Such a great way to reinvigorate the story while staying respectful to the original.
Tifa was jealous — watch the scene and when Aerith grabs Cloud's arm the camera briefly splices to Tifa with a surprised/annoyed look on her face.
I don't understand the criticism that Tifa was jealous; it doesn't diminish her. Strong women aren't unemotional women. And feeling something is not the same as making a big deal out of it.
I feel like it's another awkward case of posters having trash ideals of what good characters are like.
I just finished it and...are there going to be concurrent realities going on? One that follows the story as we know it and another were Zack and Cloud reach Midgar? Is Aerith still going to die? How did Jenova know it's fate? As Tifa said, "Well...now what?"
we don't know if zack surviving and the one we are playing it is the same, I think they are. There's nothing specifically that refutes Cloud not being brought and left in Midgar by Zck
I agree. I already know what happens in FFVII, I don't want to play that game again. I respect Square's ambition to tell the story differently and bring something radically new to the familiar.
I never played the original so I was a bit confused with the ending. Now that I've read about it, I'm super excited. I understand people being upset about this not being a proper remake, but I'm always happy to see them experiment with new stuff and ideas.
I mean, having a Final Fantasy VII where Aerith doesn't die, for example, would be amazing. How different would everything be if that didn't happen? And if they're doing the overlapping timelines, that's even more exciting to me.
I mean, having a Final Fantasy VII where Aerith doesn't die, for example, would be amazing. How different would everything be if that didn't happen? And if they're doing the overlapping timelines, that's even more exciting to me.
This is silly nonsense and seems very defensive over criticism towards a videogame character.
The issue isn't Tifa having a common human emotion. It's her prioritizing that emotion during an inaproppriate moment when her friends and home are at risk of being crushed. It was a poorly placed scene during a crisis. Even worse is they decide to have this chat while Aerith is STILL passed out lmao
Regarding Aerith I died laughing when she did that. She's always been more straight up about how she feels about stuff than Tifa, but that was such a chad power move that it was hilarious.
Tifa was like "wait da fuq" when that went down lol.
In the 23 years since I've played the game, I've never thought that. Midgar's abandoned and humanity moved on - you can heard children's laughter in the ending.
The real-life equivalent is Chernobyl; it being empty doesn't mean humanity is dead.
Hell house on hard was amazing. prolly best combat system in a jrpg for me.
drooling at the possible improvements for the next game... tag team moves maybe?
drooling at the possible improvements for the next game... tag team moves maybe?
The party might have stopped Sephiroth, but humanity still paid the ultimate price for abusing the planet as much as they did.
The ending was left ambiguous for a reason. They definitely wanted players to question whether or not Holy deemed humanity not worthy of keeping and the game makes it very clear that it could happen. The entire goal is to protect the planet.
Kitase also mentioned everyone dying at the end of VII and it seems consistent with him since he wanted to kill a lot of characters originally. It's possible the Remake will go with Holy wiped out humanity or they'll just leave it up to interpretation again.
as far as improvements go, tag team moves would be great yeah. Also being able to maybe set some behaviours for characters you're not controlling ? (Like auto using barrier for instance when it's down).
I feel also that stuff like deadly dodge could be part of the base moveset. It doesn't feel so necessary that I feel it's taking up a slot, but then not having it will sometimes feel weird
I feel also that stuff like deadly dodge could be part of the base moveset. It doesn't feel so necessary that I feel it's taking up a slot, but then not having it will sometimes feel weird
Being able to adjust ai behavior feels like a must, really hoping something like that makes its way into the sequel
To show us the depths of a man's despair through a stuffed toy.
Different stamp. One is a bloodhound (current timeline) and the other is a Boston terrier (alternate timeline).
Nomura would just try to kill himself with a Keyblade if they pulled this shit on him again lol.
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