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Reboot your computer or alt+tab furiously, usually works for me when it happens
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Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age |OT| It Buys Itself
- Thread starter Dreamboum
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Reboot your computer or alt+tab furiously, usually works for me when it happens
Awesome, 100% run got even better.
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The zones that can be explored at the start of the game are very big but I wanted to know how far you could go...but you're pretty much confined to the desert.
The path to Ozmone Plains are blocked by trees (and werewolves)
Barheim passage is blocked by 2 Seeqs...for no reason lol
No ferry available to the north bank of the Estersand.
Mosphoran Highwaste is blocked by imperial soldiers :(
Even the path to the Sandsea is blocked !! What could they possibly survey ?
My only recourse left was to go through the Zertinan Caverns ! So I fled every encounter to find....sand blocking my way :(
Now I know for sure that the desert is the only area that you can explore at the beginning. Didn't think they'd go through the effort of blocking the way everywhere ! Still, what is already available is gigantic to begin with. Even snagged myself a Diamond Armlet !
After 6 hours of playtime I should maybe get that sunstone back to Old Dalan...
The path to Ozmone Plains are blocked by trees (and werewolves)
Barheim passage is blocked by 2 Seeqs...for no reason lol
No ferry available to the north bank of the Estersand.
Mosphoran Highwaste is blocked by imperial soldiers :(
Even the path to the Sandsea is blocked !! What could they possibly survey ?
My only recourse left was to go through the Zertinan Caverns ! So I fled every encounter to find....sand blocking my way :(
Now I know for sure that the desert is the only area that you can explore at the beginning. Didn't think they'd go through the effort of blocking the way everywhere ! Still, what is already available is gigantic to begin with. Even snagged myself a Diamond Armlet !
After 6 hours of playtime I should maybe get that sunstone back to Old Dalan...
I'll probably spend DAYS doing that. I hope Cheat Engine or some mods can figure out ways to change jobs.
I restarted the game in NG+ mode because I actually want to the play through the game one day. Putting it on essentially easy mode is my best recource in this instance.
So how much challenge is even left for me? I'd like it to challenge me at least a tiny bit. Maybe with weapon stats and the license board and gambits? Getting to overcome a few roadblocks would be nice.
So how much challenge is even left for me? I'd like it to challenge me at least a tiny bit. Maybe with weapon stats and the license board and gambits? Getting to overcome a few roadblocks would be nice.
Eh, I'm not going to stress about the jobs too much.
I was going to stress about completion, but coincidentally looking up that trophy guide earlier made me not stress about that either.
I'm stress free.
Well, that's a lie. I'm stressing about time that I don't have to play the game. :(
I was going to stress about completion, but coincidentally looking up that trophy guide earlier made me not stress about that either.
I'm stress free.
Well, that's a lie. I'm stressing about time that I don't have to play the game. :(
Not much, to be honest. You are level 90, that saves you 20-40 hours of grinding at least.
Man this game is harder than I remember. I've died a few times. I think my equipment is probably bad but how do you know what's worth buying?
Also remembering that the story didn't grip me the first time round and isn't gripping me now.
All the characters look the same to me, they don't have enough individual personality to make me really care about any of them, except maybe Balthier.
Also remembering that the story didn't grip me the first time round and isn't gripping me now.
All the characters look the same to me, they don't have enough individual personality to make me really care about any of them, except maybe Balthier.
Somebody please tell me there's a smoking deal on this game on some site somewhere. Really wanna grab it
Greenmangaming are running a deal for 25% IIRC. That's where I got my copy.
Found the Seitengrat on last playthrough and it was a wrap. I need to play through again with different jobs. I really messed it up the first go round.
I've been playing this for a second time (first was the vanilla PS2 edition), and I think I must be the only person who hates the Zodiac job system. It severely restricts player choice and I don't get how this is seen as a positive.
The is one of my favorite games ever so I'm definitely going to triple dip and get the PC version here soon. I'm at the end of the game on PS4 working towards the end game hunts, I'm about level 70 and it's about time to go put the wood to
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Great work on the OT, OP!
What's restrictive about it other than locking your characters into specific roles? In the vanilla version everyone started to be the exact same character about halfway through the game. Now you have set roles that add more structure, strategy, and nuance to the combat. But you're fully in control of how to develop your characters.
Gilgamesh's second fight
Great work on the OT, OP!
What's restrictive about it other than locking your characters into specific roles? In the vanilla version everyone started to be the exact same character about halfway through the game. Now you have set roles that add more structure, strategy, and nuance to the combat. But you're fully in control of how to develop your characters.
When I played vanilla FFXII on release, I used a guide to get the Zodiac spear, as well as a guide for grinding spots. Had so much fun grinding and doing hunts that I'm almost afraid to buy this now that it's out on PC, for fear of getting sucked in. :D
Plus I'm feeling cheap and I have a backlog... We'll see if that changes though.
Plus I'm feeling cheap and I have a backlog... We'll see if that changes though.
I don't remember specifics off the top of my head but there are quest turn in items
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https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/191202-final-fantasy-xii-the-zodiac-age/75598817
The only things you absolutely should not sell are teleport stones and great serpentskin. Otherwise, it's only a matter of strategic selling if you care about it. For instance, for some of the most powerful equipment in the game, they share bazaar ingredients and you can cheat the system by selling the ingredients together and abuse the overlap. i.e. if one thing requires item A and item B, and another thing requires item B and item C, if you sold them all separately, you'd need two item Bs, but if you sold them together you'd only need one. But this isn't something you'd worry about until later in the game. I can't remember all of the ingredients this applies to, but gemsteel is one of them.
Yeah that doesn't work. Seems it wont except a %25 voucher. Only the 20 :(
Absolutely love FF12, it's easily my favorite FF. It's just such a happy game that's a joy to play. I'm going to buy this later on in the year when I get some time to play it.
I've never played the international version. I know they reworked summons but is magic still pointless after darkra or can it be a viable choice? Is 'range' still a pointless distinction due to how targeting and AOE works and bows are basically swords with a different animation?
I've never played the international version. I know they reworked summons but is magic still pointless after darkra or can it be a viable choice? Is 'range' still a pointless distinction due to how targeting and AOE works and bows are basically swords with a different animation?
Feels good picking this up day one for $30. Humble monthly discount plus rewards for past purchases feels good. I don't understand how they make money over there.
Have you tried using code JUSTFORYOU? That should be 23% off
Shades of Black on a character with high magic is extremely good.
I forgot that when you get the gambits from Penelo, you don't actually get to configure them until later. Was confused for a bit there, wondering if the game was bugged or something when the menu item didn't show.
Thanks! I had no idea about that bazaar trick, but yeah, that stuff is ways off.
Sure. Just trying to help people out by providing the (to my knowledge) current lowest price, which is $30.79 at GMG with code JUSTFORYOU.
On topic: I've currently on the fence, never played FFXII before. Is it worth the current going price of ~$30? Are its systems too complex for someone to just jump into and not follow a guide?
Yeah I meant to that guy not you, he seemed upset that he couldn't get a 25% compared to a 20 and I'm all about saving money but it's barely a difference at all in this case.
Haven't heard of that one. So far I've got Steal, Libra and First Aid and the latter two seem pretty useless.
Same. Spent a good 2 minutes in the menu wondering where the hell it was lmao
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I'd kiss Libra in the mouth if I could. Don't underestimate that one, lol
It's free and casts a random black magic spell. Random from the entire list of black magic spells, which means you can even cast the really powerful stuff early on, for free.
The other technicks that are extremely good are the break ones. Shear, addle, expose, wither, etc. They lower enemy stats and they stack. Absurdly good.
Still can't believe I'm finally playing a properly updated version of FFXII. Just picked it up on Steam and man the 60fps is just so good. That and being able to properly set my controls to inverted or non are amazing. Have it set to High at 60fps and not a single hiccup yet. I'm very impressed with this version so far. Spent so many hours on this game back when it came out but I couldn't go back to it recently due to the x-axis not being adjustable. Tried on the PS emulator and I couldn't get the performance how I wanted. This is a dream come true!
Yep, that's right. What some players did on the console version was to avoid assigning the party any jobs at all, wait until the point when the second jobs unlock, save the game and make a copy of the save file. Then you can dish out the primary and secondary jobs, and that way you've got a save file on hand to start from a blank slate in case you screw up. It didn't sound very fun to me, but some people opted for it.
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I'm not a fan either. I was very disappointed with the International version for the restrictions, especially since I don't feel like there's a wide enough variety of jobs to make up for the whiplash of going from the vanilla licence board to the job system. This version is a tad better because 2 jobs lets you get more diversity, but I really wish this had 2 licence boards to choose from, FFX-style (as a side note, no one ever complains FFX's Sphere Grid doesn't have enough strategy despite everyone being able to learn everything eventually in a similar fashion.)
The trophy is actually for collecting all magics. You don't actually need to be able to cast them with anybody.
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FF7 characters also ends up being the same with very few distinctions. Always felt to me like a shallow argument that somehow only managed to hit FF12.
They are largely situational (e.g. Bushi with mage armor can use Shades of Black effectively against groups/fliers).
Souleater is generally good if you want to have someone using axes/hammers since it will allow them to benefit from the weapons' high attack without the randomness, though it heals undead.
Wither/Addle/Expose/Shear are comically overpowered, but aren't available until very late.
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(playing ps4 version but feel it's appropriate here)
been awhile since i played this... is it possible to get by on only 3 characters properly leveled? about a quarter to halfway through the game and never got around to using anybody other than blathier, fran and vaan. i don't really feel like grinding the rest out
been awhile since i played this... is it possible to get by on only 3 characters properly leveled? about a quarter to halfway through the game and never got around to using anybody other than blathier, fran and vaan. i don't really feel like grinding the rest out
You can beat the game with only 3 people but in many situations having someone you can swap out makes a world of a difference.
It's not like I'm opposed in any way to job systems either. In fact, I loved X-2's and even FFV's systems because they didn't arbitrarily lock characters into jobs for the entire game. XII's just feels like a backwards step in that regard.
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the game def has the better intro out of all recent final fantasies, i was engaged. am not fully convinced yet, but it has me engaged at least. will have to play more than 7 hours. hopefully itll get better