I think they said it would be more work to cut Leviathan out completely since they've done so much work under the assumption that it's in the world.
Love the game, but I agree with this. The Echoes dungeon and Omega felt like they should have been the big endgame secret dungeon and boss in the original game, maybe opening up after all other side content is completed. I'm not salty about it or anything but I think it rounds out the base game very well, which was pretty anemic in interesting unlockable side content.
There had been a rumor that execs basically put a hard deadline on FFXV being released by the end of 2016, and so these side stories were cut to be released later. Don't know how accurate it is.
I am having deja vu. I don't remember "getting all the Eikons" ever being the goal. Clive had the ability to absorb Eikons, but didn't necessarily need all of them. The fact that he could do it at all was what Ultima needed from him, and the more Clive gathered the more confidence Ultima had that Clive was the vessel he'd been waiting for.
lol fair.
He doesn't usually straight lie IIRC, but he can have fun with his wording.
Ultima wants to absorb Clive inmediately after its reveal. I'm still replaying it so I don't remember the details of the end, but Ultima deems Clive strong enough when he beats Typhon.
Can you say more about this? Particularly Raise? I don't remember that ever being mentioned in the base game.
dafuq. I never got any inkling of this...and while it's true that the ass-end of the game got way convoluted for no reason at all, none of that was really explained at all.
I have to agree with you here. Not getting Leviathan always made the ending feel really weird to me. I wasn't even sure Clive was Mythos when I finished because he was still an incomplete vessel. Them not changing the final battle to at least include Leviathan's powers and a call out is also weird. The omission of Leviathan in the main game really was a detriment to the story overall.
In the end, he specifically says what he wants to achieve with Clive as a vessel and what the whole point of the crystals and such was; to raise the dead members of his civilization. The actual name of the spell "Raise" is used in the thousand tomes after beating the game. This was the only goal Ultima had in the entire game, I am confused as to what you thought was his motivation otherwise?
Frankly, I lost the plot for Ultima once he went into his whole 16 clones spiel.
I meant that you were incorrectly pointing out that the raise part is only mentioned in the ATL. He says what he wants to do but the detail that the spell is called raise is in the ATL. The general idea that he wants to raise his civilization is there plainly in the cut scene, as that is what the other person was asking about initially.
Ultima is fine in concept, it's his characterization that sinks it for me. Him and Barnabas are total snoozers
You have most it right tbh. He did have to leave behind his old body (the ifrit husk you see in the rift location) so that he can basically become immortal to carry out the plan over a very long period. But he needs a physical vessel to be able to cast the magic he needs which will require vast quantities of aether, and the vessel needs to be able to actually channel the enormous amount of aether.
