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Braaier

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
13,237
I'm starting to kill all my former classmates in part 2. :(

Is there no way to recruit others in part 2?
 

Rainy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,770
Well chapter 16 of BE-E and I've A Ranked every support. Guess I'll just do random stuff now.
 

skLaFarebear

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,174
I'm starting to kill all my former classmates in part 2. :(

Is there no way to recruit others in part 2?


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Oct 27, 2017
3,382
I was a bit confused about the naming of Claude's unique class until I took a closer look at the dragon.

I'm starting to kill all my former classmates in part 2. :(

Is there no way to recruit others in part 2?

I think you have the option of recruiting certain ones if you kill them with Byleth? Not all of them, though, and I'm not really sure which ones.
 

Anteo

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,103
I want this now. Thank you. What classes should I hit on the way there? Still mage and just train flying on the side?


I did this all on hard but had ng+ for extra activity poi ts (which i guess balances out with the shorter BE-E route)
First you need to make sure to get the knwoledge orb because she has problems learning axes and lances. You want to get to wyver rider for sure at lvl 20 or as close as posible as that will set your str to 18(+3) which means she will have good/decent damage output without a magic weapon.
Example:


If you can also try to pick up 2 of the blow skills, fiendish and darting work well here, you will most likely need to unlock the budding talent for swords so she can fight efectively early in the game (moslty as a backup as she still wants to use axe/lance whenever she can for the points).

Add a good flyer batallion which adds physical attack but doenst substract magical and you are set! (I think cichol's batallion works like that) She can now kill with bolt axes or just use a regular axe to fight Peg Knights

It's easier with marianne as she has a better str growth and lances are required for wyver lord so she can fight with frozen lance early without having to do any detour.
 

henlo_birb

Member
Dec 15, 2017
1,885
I did this all on hard but had ng+ for extra activity poi ts (which i guess balances out with the shorter BE-E route)
First you need to make sure to get the knwoledge orb because she has problems learning axes and lances. You want to get to wyver rider for sure at lvl 20 or as close as posible as that will set your str to 18(+3) which means she will have good/decent damage output without a magic weapon.

If you can also try to pick up 2 of the blow skills, fiendish and darting work well here, but if you want darting you will need to unlock the budding talent for swords so she can fight efectively early in the game.

Add a good flyer batallion which adds physical attack but doenst substract magical and you are set! (I think cichol's batallion works like that)
Do you need STR at all if you are using magic weapons??
 

Anteo

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,103
Do you need STR at all if you are using magic weapons??

No but you can still kill mages with regular axes/lances instead of using your magic weapons, as they will most likely have shit defense. Also bolt axes are not that easy to come by before ch 15, but you can get a levin sword or 2 way earlier.

Plus your str growth doenst matter, wyver rider upgrades your str for you
 

Kewlmyc

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
26,775
Ill put it this way
I had my Lysithea and my Marianne as Wyvern lords.
Yes, both mages were fliers instead, and they amazing.

everyone gets a flying mount
Having Lysithea, the best magic user in the game, as a Wyvern Lord (who can't use magic) seems very strange.

I get they class is good, but holy crap.
 

Braaier

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
13,237
I was a bit confused about the naming of Claude's unique class until I took a closer look at the dragon.



I think you have the option of recruiting certain ones if you kill them with Byleth? Not all of them, though, and I'm not really sure which ones.
Oh damn. I just slaughtered everyone in the blue lions. WTF was their problem? The black eagles should be their enemy, not us.

But they came at me. And if you come at the king you best not miss.
 

Dee Dee

Member
Nov 2, 2017
1,868
This is my first Fire Emblem game, is there any chance they'd bring a versus mode? It would be awesome to play against other people.

They had something like that in Fates, where you would fight a random team from strangers. It was pretty fun, but can be frustrating too.
I mean, you're still just fighting overpowered AI units.
If you mean a real-time duel with someone, I personally think that sounds great in theory, but is potentially awful in practice, due to people rage-quitting or losing connection 40min in, taking forever to make their turn etc.
It could be fun, but knowing Nintendo, they probably see it as too much of a risk of player frustration.

I don't remember the details but there's basically only one per route.
Oh damn. I just slaughtered everyone in the blue lions. WTF was their problem? The black eagles should be their enemy, not us.

But they came at me. And if you come at the king you best not miss.

There's one per route that you can ONLY recruit if they joined your house pre-skip already.
GD - Ashe
BL - Lorenz

There's conflicting info on whether it's possible to recruit them even if you never recruited them before time skip, but since it's contested, I'd say it's probably not possible. I personally didn't see anyone claim they could recruit them after time skip only.

Edit:
BE - Lysithea
Apparently this one you can actually recruit post-time skip without having her pre-time skip, can anyone confirm?

Concerning Blue Lions coming for Golden Deer: It's complicated.
Or not.
Dimitri is a savage basically.
 
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RecLib

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,365
Kind of crazy that annette doesn't have a talk option with gilbert in that early chapter 5 mission he comes along on.
 

Disclaimer

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,567
There's one per route that you can ONLY recruit if they joined your house pre-skip already.
GD - Ashe
BE - Lysithea
BL - Lorenz

There's conflicting info on whether it's possible to recruit them even if you never recruited them before time skip, but since it's contested, I'd say it's probably not possible. I personally didn't see anyone claim they could recruit them after time skip only.

On my BE E run, I recruited Lysithea and she remained in my army post-skip, without having to "defeat recruit" her.
 

Anteo

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,103
I wonder if Death Blow +6 str on attack also counts for the weight calculation. Maybe its worth to have it if you are using a heavy weapon (even if it deals magic damage)
 

Basileus777

Member
Oct 26, 2017
9,226
New Jersey
They had something like that in Fates, where you would fight a random team from strangers. It was pretty fun, but can be frustrating too.
I mean, you're still just fighting overpowered AI units.
If you mean a real-time duel with someone, I personally think that sounds great in theory, but is potentially awful in practice, due to people rage-quitting or losing connection 40min in, taking forever to make their turn etc.
It could be fun, but knowing Nintendo, they probably see it as too much of a risk of player frustration.




There's one per route that you can ONLY recruit if they joined your house pre-skip already.
GD - Ashe
BE - Lysithea
BL - Lorenz

There's conflicting info on whether it's possible to recruit them even if you never recruited them before time skip, but since it's contested, I'd say it's probably not possible. I personally didn't see anyone claim they could recruit them after time skip only.

Concerning Blue Lions coming for Golden Deer: It's complicated.
Or not.
Dimitri is a savage basically.
I don't understand this, if you recruited them pre-time skip you don't fight them. How could that be a requirement to recruit them post-time skip?
 

Disclaimer

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,567
Only one character leaves you in BE-E (you know the one). Every recruitable character sticks around.

Right. I brought that up because they weren't sure if you needed to recruit said units pre-skip to be able to spare/recruit them post-skip, and since she doesn't leave if recruited pre-skip... presumably you can in fact recruit her post-skip without having recruited her pre-skip, if people have done that.
 

Kinsei

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
20,593
They had something like that in Fates, where you would fight a random team from strangers. It was pretty fun, but can be frustrating too.
I mean, you're still just fighting overpowered AI units.
If you mean a real-time duel with someone, I personally think that sounds great in theory, but is potentially awful in practice, due to people rage-quitting or losing connection 40min in, taking forever to make their turn etc.
It could be fun, but knowing Nintendo, they probably see it as too much of a risk of player frustration.




There's one per route that you can ONLY recruit if they joined your house pre-skip already.
GD - Ashe
BE - Lysithea
BL - Lorenz

There's conflicting info on whether it's possible to recruit them even if you never recruited them before time skip, but since it's contested, I'd say it's probably not possible. I personally didn't see anyone claim they could recruit them after time skip only.

Concerning Blue Lions coming for Golden Deer: It's complicated.
Or not.
Dimitri is a savage basically.
That doesn;t really maek sense as Lysithea stays with you on BE, there's no need to rerecruit her.
 

NSESN

▲ Legend ▲
Member
Oct 25, 2017
25,349
Fliers are broken and I dunno why IS doesnt nerf them after they nerfed cavs in this game
Also buff armors, they are still bad
 
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ItchyTasty

Member
Feb 3, 2019
5,908
Annette with a Bolt Axe/her hero relic is crazy haha.

Not to mention that all the Rally's stack and I made her my dancer, which made her a great support unit that can dish out the pain when needed. Just need to be careful where I position her.
 

Slim Action

Member
Jul 4, 2018
5,588
I finished BE-E on Hard/Classic without making anyone a flier. I also didn't have a dancer, since I chose Flayn and then she left. Oops?
 

Soulsis

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,570
Okay you guys, I just beat my first run-through with Blue Lions. Ending made me emotional, and I loved that storyline. Should my second play through be with Black Eagles or Golden Deer? Having gone through Dmitri's side of the story I'm curious if going with the house that was less involved in his story makes more sense than the obvious one. What do you recommend?
 

Kinsei

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
20,593
Okay you guys, I just beat my first run-through with Blue Lions. Ending made me emotional, and I loved that storyline. Should my second play through be with Black Eagles or Golden Deer? Having gone through Dmitri's side of the story I'm curious if going with the house that was less involved in his story makes more sense than the obvious one. What do you recommend?
GD, if only to space out it and the fourth route as they're the most similar routes.
 

ZaddyMattty

Member
Dec 4, 2017
738
New York City
They had something like that in Fates, where you would fight a random team from strangers. It was pretty fun, but can be frustrating too.
I mean, you're still just fighting overpowered AI units.
If you mean a real-time duel with someone, I personally think that sounds great in theory, but is potentially awful in practice, due to people rage-quitting or losing connection 40min in, taking forever to make their turn etc.
It could be fun, but knowing Nintendo, they probably see it as too much of a risk of player frustration.

What if they did local?
 

Disclaimer

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,567
Okay you guys, I just beat my first run-through with Blue Lions. Ending made me emotional, and I loved that storyline. Should my second play through be with Black Eagles or Golden Deer? Having gone through Dmitri's side of the story I'm curious if going with the house that was less involved in his story makes more sense than the obvious one. What do you recommend?

If you want the "other half" of the war story, BE E. If you want lore and answers, GD & BE C.
 

Tfritz

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,377
Okay you guys, I just beat my first run-through with Blue Lions. Ending made me emotional, and I loved that storyline. Should my second play through be with Black Eagles or Golden Deer? Having gone through Dmitri's side of the story I'm curious if going with the house that was less involved in his story makes more sense than the obvious one. What do you recommend?

The one that seemed less involved in the story actually ends up having the most background details. The obvious one actually splits into two routes, one of which contains Lots of Background Details, and one that explains basically nothing.
 

RecLib

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,365
I haven't played any of the BE routes, so I guess it's different there. I'll edit the original post. You can spare/recruit her somehow though, I thought? Anyone know how that works?

As far as I can tell sparing people is always just a matter of "make sure professor does the killing blow"

Edit: Sounds like I might have been wrong.
 
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ItchyTasty

Member
Feb 3, 2019
5,908
I haven't played any of the BE routes, so I guess it's different there. I'll edit the original post. You can spare/recruit her somehow though, I thought? Anyone know how that works?
From what I heard you can recruit her as Edelgard even if she wasn't recruited pre-timeskip. Though I don't know since she was already recruited in my run.
 

Dee Dee

Member
Nov 2, 2017
1,868
Okay, so no one can confirm that you can recruit her if you have NOT recruited her post-time skip then. :D

Edit: Don't look at me, I sure as hell won't recruit the chibi nuke any time I play this game.
 
Oct 27, 2017
3,382
They had something like that in Fates, where you would fight a random team from strangers. It was pretty fun, but can be frustrating too.
I mean, you're still just fighting overpowered AI units.
If you mean a real-time duel with someone, I personally think that sounds great in theory, but is potentially awful in practice, due to people rage-quitting or losing connection 40min in, taking forever to make their turn etc.
It could be fun, but knowing Nintendo, they probably see it as too much of a risk of player frustration.

Still would be time-consuming and potentially very not fun.

Shadow Dragon had something like that, didn't it? Can't speak to how fun it is because I never had anyone to play it with.
 

Dee Dee

Member
Nov 2, 2017
1,868
I think the potential problem playing against someone else is that you can basically infinitely turtle.
It needs a PUBG-esque ring of death to pit people against each other as turns pass.