Gameinformer: Every Pokémon in your party gets equal experience automatically as you progress through the game. (No more Exp. Share)
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There aren't any Machop to catch near Whitney. You have to trade for one in Goldenrod.
The "other RPGs do this" defense falls flat when you consider that, you know, most other RPGs actually have selectable difficulty options.
This is terrible news. Why are you happy they are removing an option? Before exp share was a choice, not anymore.
Will the game be balanced around this? Because past Pokémon games were balanced around the idea that you need to keep all of your Pokémon at about even level (and they were still easy). Now that it appears you have no option to turn EXP Share off I hope enemy Pokémon are higher level overall.
Oh right. Sorry, brain fart.
So they make the matter of beating her even easier by basically handing you a Pokémon super effective against her who gets extra EXP.
compare this to some of the bosses in NES Dragon Warrior. Pokemon isn't hard.
I love how fans focus on the 'negatives'. I bet the thread on their being 18 gyms doesn't get as many replies as this one.
? how is that bad?
She exists to make people learn to use accuracy moves or try other Pokémon instead of just the starter. Of course, they have the option of grinding a bit and that's fine, but it's a good design to have her to teach players of other possible team strategies. When I was a kid almost everyone gave tips to each other to use stuff like sand attack or a rock Pokémon, that's good design to me.
I don't like it too, if you want my opinion. But this is way more concerning for the series future. lol
It's also a dumb argument because, you know, not all RPGs are the same. Just because one game does something doesn't mean that every game needs to do it too. I hate how that argument gets so much traction on Era. It's almost as if people boil games down to nothing but a checklist. It's so sad.
And other difficulty modifiers, speed settings, encounter rate settings... Any of those would be an enourmous QoL change for the franchise, and it looks like we're getting less options instead.
Not to mention that battle made her more way more memorable than any other Gym leader in Johto that's not named Clair.
If Catch Exp. is still a thing then you're basically punishing players who honouring of their way to catch new Pokemon by making their teams over-levelled and the game much easier.
Fuck yes you hate having this be an option as it was the entire 3ds generation and want it forced on everyone?
I'm not saying it's not bad. I'm saying it's not exceptionally difficult. That's what the in game quest is supposed to be. It introduces the player to the staples and mechanics of the series before you go deeper, and get into the real worthwhile stuff, where team building matters more. It's a precursor to the true meat of the game, the raising, catching, and interacting with other players.
Are your Pokemon going to be over-leveled by this like they were the last 2 generations when using EXP Share? Exp Share completely ruined any semblance of balance in those games. I really hope they balanced this appropriately. I don't need a party of 6 Pokemon out-leveling everything in the game because they all get a ton of experience for the same Pokemon fight. Either trainer levels are gonna have to be competitive or exp dolled out is less, which would make the games progression slower.
Right. Even if Game Freak had data that suggested 99.9% of people played with Exp Share on, there is still no reason not to include a toggle. It literally makes no sense to remove the option.
Literally nobody is arguing Pokemon is hard, they are arguing this takes away the player's ability to impose any kind of challenge.
The option should exist but it shouldn't be locked.
With how misinformed some of these posts are, you'd really think so.
Yep. Hate how common this is in this site. Not every game is the same. People just casually ignoring that other RPGs have usually parties with specific characters and not a roster of hundreds and that most Pokémon can oneshot others based on type advantage already.
Yes. lol No one ever remembers the XY gym battles, yet everyone remembers Whitney. She's a fun challenge and a good way to teach players some new stuff.
At this point, the player character might as well have a level or rank. That way, catching Pokemon (and beating gyms and evolving Pokemon etc etc) levels YOU up. I've thought for years that giving the actual player character a rank or level would allow for more interesting and open design throughout the game. It'd enable level scaling and shit like that, too.
Seeing as we don't know if we can turn it off or if they will balance the game around it, don't you think your 'concern' is a little premature?
Also how can you not like more content (the 18 gyms)?
I hate how true that is. Video game discussion has become so frustrating because people are so robotic in their evaluation these days.
Hard to celebrate new content if the EXP system fundamentally takes out what so many of us enjoy about the series.
Hopefully it's an option but it doesn't sound like it.
They really should have a hard mode. Would be dope. Or at least make the main game super easy with end-game content being ridiculously hard.
The games with encounter settings are pretty minimal as it is.
The games already make several moves utterly pointless because Sou le battles are already a fraction as is. Brute Foce was pretty much the name of the game, and hasnt really changed for the main game as is.
The games already make several moves utterly pointless because Sou le battles are already a fraction as is. Brute Foce was pretty much the name of the game, and hasnt really changed for the main game as is.
If the game is the easiest thing ever, 18 gyms doesn't mean much.
they've only shown willingness to make challenge customizable in ONE title in this entire franchise, and even then it was a token effort locked behind a ridiculously esoteric method
this was never gonna be a thing they'd prioritize
Is eighteen gyms distributed between both games. Also is not officially confirmed yet considering that article is full of gramatic errors.
The balance is awful in SM. And I liked that game, but I don't trust them in this aspect.
And I would like 18 gyms if they were all in one game. Don't like the idea of version exclusive gyms. I'm also pretty down on the whole league stuff since they announced there's no Elite 4, one of my favorite aspects of the games. So it actually feels I'm getting less interesting trainer bosses than before.
Having the option like in gen 7 (exp all, exp share, off) was the preferred way of doing it, because you can both set how "difficult"/grindy you wanted the leveling experience to be, and you can level EVs much more specifically.
I'm an exp All man all the way, but at first blush, this strikes me as a loss of utility.
I'm an exp All man all the way, but at first blush, this strikes me as a loss of utility.
We have multiple generations of games where they didn't balance around the exp share. That's plenty to presume that They won't this time either.
It was optional in literally every 3DS game. There is no reason to change it.
Game Freak and game balance is like oil and water. I don't have any faith that they won't fuck this up and have you overleveled for certain challenges.
Grinding?
Pokemon has always been easy so your comment doesn't mean much.
How many of those games have had exp share as compulsory?
Read my posts in this thread if you think I need to grind in Pokemon. I never grind and play the games just fine. I enjoy the team management and EXP distribution elements.
You're misunderstanding the poster you quoted big time. The poster isn't asking about difficulty options, they're asking for the fact that toggling the Exp Share should have remained an option for players to choose as opposed to being the default.
there's no reason to keep it, either, as being able to turn it off didn't really address any of the issues people had with XY's difficulty, and Sun and Moon rebalanced opponents levels and EXP gain compared to its predecessor.
Shared party EXP and bench EXP is becoming more and more standard to RPGs. That game everyone likes to say is better than Pokémon, Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth, gives EXP to your three active members and everyone sitting on your reserves. To the best of my knowledge, they don't allow you to turn that off either.
you all wanted Pokémon to modernize. This is what that looks like.