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F4r0_Atak

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Oct 31, 2017
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Just learned about this yesterday. So let me get this straight... if I had 1k$ worth of stocks in GME before January 12 and sold them when they were at their peak on January 28, I could have made over 30k$ correct? Honestly, if it is, it could have really helped me (and my dad for that matter) given my current situation.
 

Silent

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
2,437
Just learned about this yesterday. So let me get this straight... if I had 1k$ worth of stocks in GME before January 12 and sold them when they were at their peak on January 28, I could have made over 30k$ correct? Honestly, if it is, it could have really helped me (and my dad for that matter) given my current situation.
You shouldn't think about the what if's, seriously. Nobody knew how big GME would blow up, and nobody knew exactly when it would have cratered. So, yes, if you bought before January 12 and sold in January 28, you would have made money. But a lot of people hold on past the peak hoping that the real peak is still ahead. There's no guarantee you would have the foresight or luck to pull out at the top.
 

japtor

Member
Jan 19, 2018
1,143
That's my take. The stock surging to 100x what it was months ago is a hell of a short squeeze!
Yeah, at this point anyone thinking that wasn't the squeeze is insane or just crazy greedy or super swept up in the questionable narrative*. Dang thing went from like sub $10 to near $500 in few weeks, seems like it was a pretty good squeeze.

*People would have to be delusional to think that big money wasn't massively profiting off of this too.
I see. I thought it was $115, but its below $100 right now, so its way below either number. Did it spike to $150 today? Or was that another day?
Yeah I saw $150 today...wish I set a sell for that but either didn't think it'd get there, or if it did, didn't want to sell if it was going to shoot higher.

Got in late/high and got out with a decent loss...on the plus side, capital losses! Which means I might be able to finally pull some money out of my (super old) Apple stock and cancel out the capital gains tax on that. That was semi why I was like yolo with getting in late, worst case a loss would've had it's own use for me.
Whats the opposite of to the moon/mars
I'll see you in hell!
 

test_account

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,645
My argument for the last few days is that people thinking of the short squeeze as a singular event like the end of musical chairs is fundamentally misguided. Since people can close out their risk along the way, it is more viewed as a general source of upwards price pressure, which happened and will continue to happen. I think it will net out negative with the pressure to fall to fundamentals.
If the price keeps going down, isnt it much more likely that the shorts will be cashed out (or what i shall call it), and therefor much harder to do a squeeze? I',m still holding my small investment just to see what happening.
 

Ringten

Member
Nov 15, 2017
6,196
Bought $100 of GME @300 and $100 of Nakd @2

At a loss of $70 each 😅

May as well hold and see what happens. Worst case I lose a few dollars more.

Learnt a lesson. Join the hype trains on resetera when it comes to games not shares 😂 jokes aside, I always wanted to start investing so I just see this as a way that made me start researching and in the future make smarter investments

Edit: also I wanted to close trade ages ago, but for the life of me could not find the option on the app of etoro. Thought they had disabled it. Could have made a very small loss if I had found it earlier, but only found the option to close on my laptop right now
 
Oct 25, 2017
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If the price keeps going down, isnt it much more likely that the shorts will be cashed out (or what i shall call it), and therefor much harder to do a squeeze? I',m still holding my small investment just to see what happening.

Squeeze is a bad term, or a good term that is giving people a bad mental image of the mechanics. It is just people forced to buy which is upwards price pressure. Thinking of it as a singular event where everybody has to buy at a specific moment in time and not any earlier is a misrepresentation (by my understanding).
 

SgtCobra

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Oct 25, 2017
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Glad I stepped out when I made some profit.
Hope people are able to recoup their investments though.
 

mikeys_legendary

The Fallen
Sep 26, 2018
3,009
Well, I am glad my cooler head prevailed and I chose not to buy GME. I really wanted to, but just couldn't fathom dropping ~$300 for one share.

Spent around $100 on AMC and that's not doing too hot today but at least the theater near me will survive I hope.

The big shock was Doge for me. I kept selling 10% each time they were above $0.04 on Sunday night/Monday morning and I'm now in the green. I just can't bring myself to sell off what I have left.
 

Chopchop

Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,171
You shouldn't think about the what if's, seriously. Nobody knew how big GME would blow up, and nobody knew exactly when it would have cratered. So, yes, if you bought before January 12 and sold in January 28, you would have made money. But a lot of people hold on past the peak hoping that the real peak is still ahead. There's no guarantee you would have the foresight or luck to pull out at the top.
Yeah, this is very important to remember when doing anything with the stock market. There's always some what-if stuff like "if I sold earlier" or "if I knew this would happen I would have made a lot more money", when most likely there was no way you could have known those things at the time. It's important to not let those what-ifs eat you, because these situations happen all the time with any trade decisions you make.

If you learned something that will help your future investment decisions, that's great. But you can't know the future. You made whatever decisions made the most sense to you at the time, so it's important to just accept that instead of endlessly beating yourself up and second-guessing yourself.
 

Xenoblade 3

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,954
New York City
Bought $100 of GME @300 and $100 of Nakd @2

At a loss of $70 each 😅

May as well hold and see what happens. Worst case I lose a few dollars more.

Learnt a lesson. Join the hype trains on resetera when it comes to games not shares 😂 jokes aside, I always wanted to start investing so I just see this as a way that made me start researching and in the future make smarter investments
You shouldnt join those hype trains either 😭
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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True enough regarding casino and rules, but wasnt getting the GameStop stock upto $400+ also kinda "rigged" though? :) But in the end, it was a gamble either way, and people on both sides lost and won depending on their strategy (that Melvin hedge fund lost billions i think).

EDIT: I see now that this was already discussed/answered above :)

Yes, WSB profitted from how bullshit the whole system is. And that was kinda the point of this whole ordeal: use the system against the usual bullshitters. You can argue how they actually weren't successful enough, how most of the money was made by other hedge funds or how they just created another bubble that will inevitably affect a bunch of people. Maybe there's a bit of true in all of them with the fact qute amount of averages joes got their money off from Melvin. But this reality just shows how overly abstract and illogical the stock market is and far from being representative of the real economy ending in just some overcomplicated crooked casino for billionaires.

Things like HFT, Front running, etc... shows how crooked the system is. WSB just played by the same 'rules' until they were taken off the play field, by these same 'rules'.
 

Lobster Roll

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Sep 24, 2019
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Learnt a lesson. Join the hype trains on resetera when it comes to games not shares 😂 jokes aside, I always wanted to start investing so I just see this as a way that made me start researching and in the future make smarter investments
A good rule for stocks in general is that if you're learning about the information through the news or social media platforms, you're already too late. There are exceptions to the rule, obviously, but it's very old information by the time it hits those locations.
 

F4r0_Atak

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Oct 31, 2017
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You shouldn't think about the what if's, seriously. Nobody knew how big GME would blow up, and nobody knew exactly when it would have cratered. So, yes, if you bought before January 12 and sold in January 28, you would have made money. But a lot of people hold on past the peak hoping that the real peak is still ahead. There's no guarantee you would have the foresight or luck to pull out at the top.
Honestly... with a 3000% boost (on Jan. 28), it would have been enough for me. I am not in debt or anything, but having moved recently and being on a limited budget, there are so many things I still need to buy for my place. So I'm not picky. I would have taken what is given. I don't really care about its real peak/top. If I had made enough money to cover for what I needed to get and also help my dad, I would have been content with it. Whatever was left would have been put aside to be saved for a house or retirement. (I'm 30 btw)
 

dear speaker

Member
Apr 16, 2020
227
Makes sense. So the big supposed spike this week...reddit/the internet was just wrong about that? Whatever "squeeze" occurred happened last week?

You can be sure that most of the WSB veterans will already have cashed out massive profits to cover their positions. They may be degenerate gamblers, but they aren't complete idiots.
 

Le Dude

Member
May 16, 2018
4,709
USA
Dropped out at about a 10% loss. I was hoping it would hit $400 again after Thursday but it's been steadily going down.
 

fertygo

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,578
Bought $100 of GME @300 and $100 of Nakd @2

At a loss of $70 each 😅

May as well hold and see what happens. Worst case I lose a few dollars more.

Learnt a lesson. Join the hype trains on resetera when it comes to games not shares 😂 jokes aside, I always wanted to start investing so I just see this as a way that made me start researching and in the future make smarter investments
At very least this made me open trading account.. and its way easier than I would thought. made me regret not doing it sooner
 

HoodedSoldier

Member
Sep 29, 2018
2,268
Yeah, this is very important to remember when doing anything with the stock market. There's always some what-if stuff like "if I sold earlier" or "if I knew this would happen I would have made a lot more money", when most likely there was no way you could have known those things at the time. It's important to not let those what-ifs eat you, because these situations happen all the time with any trade decisions you make.

If you learned something that will help your future investment decisions, that's great. But you can't know the future. You made whatever decisions made the most sense to you at the time, so it's important to just accept that instead of endlessly beating yourself up and second-guessing yourself.
I like this. It's so easy to say "what if or I should of."
 

Zachary_Games

Member
Jul 31, 2020
2,979
This type of extreme stupidity doesn't happen often, and it took an insane bubble community to whip up a frenzy based on some perceived class warfare. Collateral requirements in trades also ended up saving a lot of retail investors a bunch of money by preventing first-time investors from piling into a no-fee app to buy into a fad stock after the pop.

Perception is reality. Many people still haven't recovered from 2008. From 2008-current, the US government has been a revolving door of Wall Street goons, what did you expect?

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I finally got around to watching Vlad's conversation with Elon on ClubHouse. My takeaway is his corporate lawyers must be going fucking nuts.

I sympathize with Vlad because I feel like he is a decent person. He wouldn't be shooting himself in the foot on national TV or volunteering talks on social media otherwise. However, he's making a big mistake IMO.

There needs to be an investigation into this fiasco. You are telling me the DTCC reduced their collateral requirements down from 3b to 1.4b just because they are nice guys? Get outta here. I need to see receipts. Then RH just decided to halt buys when they could have increased increased margin requirements to 100% instead? There are many, many questions that should be asked and answered. This whole thing stinks.

There needs to be an investigation for public closure and restoring confidence in the market. At the very least, an after action report must be produced to establish new best practices in the case of such a situation occurring again.
 

Ringten

Member
Nov 15, 2017
6,196
At very least this made me open trading account.. and its way easier than I would thought. made me regret not doing it sooner

I still find it very confusing to be honest! It is still impossible to find a close trade option on the etoro app. Etoro doesnt have all the stocks (could not find AMC). My own bank has its own platform, but that seems like totally different. Gotta figure it all out, but yep at least it made me open an account too.

Think gonna invest some in Rolls Royce haha... got a gut feeling they will rebound nicely in a few years
 
Oct 25, 2017
11,039
Damn, I'm sure some people lost a fuck ton of money.

I was on the verge of buying at 290. Was gonna spend like 1k on it and amc.

Glad I chickened out.
 

Chopchop

Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,171
Perception is reality. Many people still haven't recovered from 2008. From 2008-current, the US government has been a revolving door of Wall Street goons, what did you expect?

————————————————————

I finally got around to watching Vlad's conversation with Elon on ClubHouse. My takeaway is his corporate lawyers must be going fucking nuts.

I sympathize with Vlad because I feel like he is a decent person. He wouldn't be shooting himself in the foot on national TV or volunteering talks on social media otherwise. However, he's making a big mistake IMO.

There needs to be an investigation into this fiasco. You are telling me the DTCC reduced their collateral requirements down from 3b to 1.4b just because they are nice guys? Get outta here. I need to see receipts. Then RH just decided to halt buys when they could have increased increased margin requirements to 100% instead? There are many, many questions that should be asked and answered. This whole thing stinks.

There needs to be an investigation for public closure and restoring confidence in the market. At the very least, an after action report must be produced to establish new best practices in the case of such a situation occurring again.
It does stink. It's not just what you mentioned, but there's also the sizable number of condescending "why don't you all just run along now and go back to doing whatever poor things you poors usually do" statements from the rich. They have to be pissed at what "the poors" are doing to say things like that, or else they wouldn't say anything at all.

Personally I'm fine with mostly holding for the rest of the week to see if this thing really is dead, but it does seem like the hype has died significantly over just two days of decline and a distinct lack of fluctuation/volume (what's up with that?). I've sold enough to be a bit ahead regardless, and I don't stand to lose much more than what I would lose if I sold right now anyway, so I might as well wait and see if anything happens at the end of this week.
 

stoke1863

Member
Oct 29, 2017
383
im hoping people take this as a lesson learnt.

Ive been here before with BS oil stocks, i got made redundant at my old job and used £1000 of my redundancy pay on oil stocks. 11 years late you know how much my investment is worth now?

79p...

ive held them stocks as a lesson for the future to not buy in on hype in things i dont understand. So yes when i heard about GME is was already $200 aand decided it was too late already,

The only thing i do now is boring boomer stuff. Index tracker or ETF, i have one for my current savings and one for retirement (vanguard).

£100 a month to my current and £50 to my retirerment one.

best thing is you just set it up and leave it to grow. Yeah you wont get rich quick, but its something.

time in the market is better than timing the market they say. Let the guys on Wall Street do the day trading. They feed on the average person and there lack of knowlegde, your very unlikely to beat them at trading.
 

Shifty Capone

Member
Oct 27, 2017
620
Los Angeles
Back above $100. I hope it balloons just once to somewhere above $300 due to a squeeze and retail gets out. I don't want to see all these people who YOLOd life savings into a gamble. Everytime I saw people say they did that I just cringe.

I love seeing more people getting into the market, it's a great way to make long term money, especially if you're smart about it. I was hopeful that people would make just a little bit if money and start down the path of researching how the market normally works. All these retail "investors" losing thousands is overall bad for the market as a whole I think. More people reading means more opportunities for everyone!
 

japtor

Member
Jan 19, 2018
1,143
The big shock was Doge for me. I kept selling 10% each time they were above $0.04 on Sunday night/Monday morning and I'm now in the green. I just can't bring myself to sell off what I have left.
Crypto is crazy enough you might as well hold onto it unless you need the money. If anything the brand could keep some value as a meme and recognizable name as one of the earlier cryptos.

Semi related side note, Mark Cuban did an AMA on WSB:

Some solid advice there if you look through his answers (albeit probably not in the context of GME right now like some posters there want to believe, barring a miracle at this point).
I learned some expensive lessons when i first started trading stocks. It was painful. But i tried to learn what i got right and wrong. Right now, right here. The game is changing. The hard part is ask yourself if what you believed in has actually changed.

BTC HODLers are a great example to follow. Many bought at the highs in 2017 and watched it fall by 2/3 or more. But they held on because they believed in the asset.

The same applies to stocks. When I buy a stock I make sure i know why Im buying it. Then I HODL until till I learn that something has changed. THe price may go up or down, but if i still believe in the logic that made me buy the asset, I dont sell. If something changed that I didnt expect , then I look at selling.
This is pretty much how I've invested and it's worked out well, although in the case of picking individual stocks keep in mind it's still essentially a bet on the company. Easier/safer thing is to get some ETFs to spread out your risk.
Think gonna invest some in Rolls Royce haha... got a gut feeling they will rebound nicely in a few years
...I think I inadvertently did that during my buying spree recently. I put a little into BMW, which owns Rolls Royce.
 

RiZ IV

Member
Oct 27, 2017
803
I'm still in the green even if it drops further, so I'm not too worried. Expecting at least some sort of bump today so I'll probably sell at least some then.

Curious for what you do following Motley Fool? My wife will have her masters here soon and our income will be over double what it is now, then we will be paying off our house and cars and everything ASAP. After that we will be saving up to build a house and I'm thinking in the meantime I should be dropping those funds into some safe investments for some return.

Nothing fancy on my part. I basically just look at their recommended stocks and and buy some of those. Nothing big either. Just a couple hundred a month if that. I put in about 4k across 22 stocks so far and have had a ~600 return over the past 5 months (which is when I started). Motley's strategy is long term though. They advice holding on to these for 5+ years.

I had lost a lot of money in 08 when the markets collapsed and had vowed never to trade stocks again. I recently started again when a friend of mine told me about his success with MFool. So far I'm really happy with it. They offer simple to follow advice, which is great for people who are completely financially illiterate like me.

I should also note that I also have a 401k which is much much larger. That has given excellent returns for 12+ years now. So if your company offers a 401k, I advise you take advantage of that.
 

Silent

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
2,437
Honestly... with a 3000% boost (on Jan. 28), it would have been enough for me. I am not in debt or anything, but having moved recently and being on a limited budget, there are so many things I still need to buy for my place. So I'm not picky. I would have taken what is given. I don't really care about its real peak/top. If I had made enough money to cover for what I needed to get and also help my dad, I would have been content with it. Whatever was left would have been put aside to be saved for a house or retirement. (I'm 30 btw)
What makes you think you wouldn't have sold sometime before January 28? You could have sold earlier when it was $200. Then it would have shot up to $460 and you would be lamenting about the potential money had you waited an extra day or two. I definitely feel what you're saying, but hindsight is 20/20.
 

Ex Lion Tamer

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,194
What makes you think you wouldn't have sold sometime before January 28? You could have sold earlier when it was $200. Then it would have shot up to $460 and you would be lamenting about the potential money had you waited an extra day or two. I definitely feel what you're saying, but hindsight is 20/20.

This. Very very few people will have timed it perfectly, and even those who did got a bit lucky anyways because no one really knows what will happen. Not worth wondering about.
 

test_account

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,645
Yeah I saw $150 today...wish I set a sell for that but either didn't think it'd get there, or if it did, didn't want to sell if it was going to shoot higher.

Got in late/high and got out with a decent loss...on the plus side, capital losses! Which means I might be able to finally pull some money out of my (super old) Apple stock and cancel out the capital gains tax on that. That was semi why I was like yolo with getting in late, worst case a loss would've had it's own use for me.
Understood. Yeah, it can be hard to know exactly when to sell, indeed :)

Good that there was a plus side at least :) I also did some late buys, and those are down like 70% now, but i did make some shorter trades in the last few days that ended in a profit, so even if my last trades go down to like -95% or so, i still wont lose that much overall.


Squeeze is a bad term, or a good term that is giving people a bad mental image of the mechanics. It is just people forced to buy which is upwards price pressure. Thinking of it as a singular event where everybody has to buy at a specific moment in time and not any earlier is a misrepresentation (by my understanding).
Understood, but isnt it kinda true that everyone have to buy and sell at a specific moment in time to be able to make a big profit in cases like this? Like there has to be a factor that leads to the upward price pressure, as you mention. If the hedge funds dont have such big amount of shorts left, its also less price pressure overall, and then that specific moment in time has passed.

A stock can always increase quite a bit in price at a later stage though (if that is what you mean?), but "too the moon" prices for the GameSpot stock might be over. I'm curious to see how thing unfold with the whole GameStop stock in the next few days and weeks, even if the price goes up or down :)


Yes, WSB profitted from how bullshit the whole system is. And that was kinda the point of this whole ordeal: use the system against the usual bullshitters. You can argue how they actually weren't successful enough, how most of the money was made by other hedge funds or how they just created another bubble that will inevitably affect a bunch of people. Maybe there's a bit of true in all of them with the fact qute amount of averages joes got their money off from Melvin. But this reality just shows how overly abstract and illogical the stock market is and far from being representative of the real economy ending in just some overcomplicated crooked casino for billionaires.

Things like HFT, Front running, etc... shows how crooked the system is. WSB just played by the same 'rules' until they were taken off the play field, by these same 'rules'.
Yeah, what happened to GameStop shows that the stock market can be kinda crazy, indeed. Its a very rare situation though, but its still crazy what happened, i definitely argree to that. I dont exactly think that stock market in general is more of a casino for billionaires though. Its true that billionaires can make a lot of money on the stock market for sure, and perhaps use some tactics that are generally criticized, indeed, but i think it also possible for smaller investors to make some money too (but people can lose money too of course, just like anyone in the stock market). Unless i misunderstand i read too much into it when you say "casino for billionaires", so please correct me if i misunderstood :)

When it comes to thestock marked in general though, maybe the stock market rules could be improved overall regardless. I'm wondering if there will be some new regulations now based on what happened to GameStop.

EDIT: I added some text.
 
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Chopchop

Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,171
im hoping people take this as a lesson learnt.

Ive been here before with BS oil stocks, i got made redundant at my old job and used £1000 of my redundancy pay on oil stocks. 11 years late you know how much my investment is worth now?

79p...

ive held them stocks as a lesson for the future to not buy in on hype in things i dont understand. So yes when i heard about GME is was already $200 aand decided it was too late already,

The only thing i do now is boring boomer stuff. Index tracker or ETF, i have one for my current savings and one for retirement (vanguard).

£100 a month to my current and £50 to my retirerment one.

best thing is you just set it up and leave it to grow. Yeah you wont get rich quick, but its something.

time in the market is better than timing the market they say. Let the guys on Wall Street do the day trading. They feed on the average person and there lack of knowlegde, your very unlikely to beat them at trading.
Right. Normal investing is nothing like what GME is. Normal investing is not about looking for a miracle story of a stock that will bounce back, or suddenly shoot into the stratosphere. It's about putting your money into something that has solid value, isn't expected to disasterously fuck up, and will likely grow more than it loses in the long run. That means parking most of your money into big, boring-as-fuck stocks like huge corporations or banks, or things such as index funds, because you're mostly just trying to beat the interest rate on your bank's savings account. You can have assign some portion of your savings to higher risk stuff in exchange for a higher chance of growth, but GME is wayyyyy far into the deep end in terms of risk, and you shouldn't play into it with anything you're not prepared to lose.

So for everyone who's decided to play it safe and steer clear of meme stocks, that doesn't mean looking for the next story to bet on. You're supposed to be looking for something else that will most likely slowly gain more than it loses over time. You're supposed to look for slow and steady, instead of trying to predict what will be the next lightning in a bottle.
 

Le Dude

Member
May 16, 2018
4,709
USA
Of course it's up $40 after I dip out, lol.

Nothing fancy on my part. I basically just look at their recommended stocks and and buy some of those. Nothing big either. Just a couple hundred a month if that. I put in about 4k across 22 stocks so far and have had a ~600 return over the past 5 months (which is when I started). Motley's strategy is long term though. They advice holding on to these for 5+ years.

I had lost a lot of money in 08 when the markets collapsed and had vowed never to trade stocks again. I recently started again when a friend of mine told me about his success with MFool. So far I'm really happy with it. They offer simple to follow advice, which is great for people who are completely financially illiterate like me.

I should also note that I also have a 401k which is much much larger. That has given excellent returns for 12+ years now. So if your company offers a 401k, I advise you take advantage of that.
Yeah I have a 403b maxed out and a Roth IRA. Thanks for all the info!