I wouldn't call a personal opinion about the artistic/technical choice of an another studio, an indisputable fact. Especially when the word subpar/mediocre is so redundant.
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[GamingBolt] Graphics Analysis - God of War: Arguably The Best Looking Game of All Time
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Nope, it is not the shakiness of the drone. You can see the textures swapping and morphing in and out.
Don't make certain statements when you do not have all information available and certainly don't argue with people have have the game and have played the game. You made several statements, you were so convinced even when evidence was provided you refuse to back down, instead you post presentation slides to prove you are right when those slides do not support you, remember the whole PBR and wood material nonsense you brought up earlier?
The drone lol
Just going old school Halo 3 has some of the best sky in game ever. They're not sky boxes at all and everything is a object in space flying around like the clouds and all the ships flying around.
Did you know you can fly from the ground and all the way up into space?! Not only does Halo 3 render radiosity in real time, which gives the sky a color from the angle and position of the sun, but also render out space at all times so stars always there too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaMB-BnntaQ
Did you know you can fly from the ground and all the way up into space?! Not only does Halo 3 render radiosity in real time, which gives the sky a color from the angle and position of the sun, but also render out space at all times so stars always there too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaMB-BnntaQ
All those shots are in-engine with full resolution cloud and high density than in game. (Its been months since i read the presentation so I can't confirm this statement). Hey those are nice clouds. TruSky is certainly a beast. DriveClub implementation of TruSky is certainly the BEST volumetric cloud in game. But then again, volumetric cloud doesn't immediately translate to best sky.
But again, the thing about real life sky is that vistas it create. HDZ and Drive club sky is dull because what makes a sky great is not just volumetric clouds. Its the atmospheric scattering and the variety of scenes it produces.
HDZ and Drive Club timelapse is literally almost the same barren small difference in cloud shape and animation.
Google "sky clouds sunset". You will never see anything like that in HDZ or DriveClub. Yet you will see that in Forza Horizon 3
You are glowing after volumetric clouds but i'm talking about a complete sky system.
Call me when a game looks anything like this or when HDZ can produce sky visuals that look like this. This is as realistic as it gets!
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You can literally pass this off as a photo without the watermark.
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All those shots are in-engine with full resolution cloud and high density than in game. (Its been months since i read the presentation so I can't confirm this statement). Hey those are nice clouds. TruSky is certainly a beast. DriveClub implementation of TruSky is certainly the BEST volumetric cloud in game. But then again, volumetric cloud doesn't immediately translate to best sky.
But again, the thing about real life sky is that vistas it create. HDZ and Drive club sky is dull because what makes a sky great is not just volumetric clouds. Its the atmospheric scattering and the variety of scenes it produces.
HDZ and Drive Club timelapse is literally almost the same barren small difference in cloud shape and animation.
Google "sky clouds sunset". You will never see anything like that in HDZ or DriveClub. Yet you will see that in Forza Horizon 3
You are glowing after volumetric clouds but i'm talking about a complete sky system.
Call me when a game looks anything like this or when HDZ can produce sky visuals that look like this. This is as realistic as it gets!
You can literally pass this off as a photo without the watermark.
No they are not in engine, no shot is full resolution because it was not running in realtime when the volumetric cloud where full resolution. They use 1/4 resolution cloud and use temporal reconstruction if I remember well.
And in HZD it is not because it it impossible to produce this sky sunset it is because HZD art direction hyperrealism and they limit themselves to certain lightning condition* where the game graphics shine you will never see mundane lightning in HZD and it is the reason of accelerated transition between day and night and vice versa...
* It was said directly by the GG team during a presentation... Again realistic art direction not equals better here the technology shows its limits... It is good for a car game but when would pay attention to the sky clouds break the illusion...
Watermark or not I will not think one instant this is reality... Not at all...
And the TruSky solution is not the best, he was not satisfy of the cloud when he decided to not use it because certain type of clouds were not rendered correctly or not at all...
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All those shots are in-engine with full resolution cloud and high density than in game. (Its been months since i read the presentation so I can't confirm this statement). Hey those are nice clouds. TruSky is certainly a beast. DriveClub implementation of TruSky is certainly the BEST volumetric cloud in game. But then again, volumetric cloud doesn't immediately translate to best sky.
But again, the thing about real life sky is that vistas it create. HDZ and Drive club sky is dull because what makes a sky great is not just volumetric clouds. Its the atmospheric scattering and the variety of scenes it produces.
HDZ and Drive Club timelapse is literally almost the same barren small difference in cloud shape and animation.
Google "sky clouds sunset". You will never see anything like that in HDZ or DriveClub. Yet you will see that in Forza Horizon 3
You are glowing after volumetric clouds but i'm talking about a complete sky system.
Call me when a game looks anything like this or when HDZ can produce sky visuals that look like this. This is as realistic as it gets!
You can literally pass this off as a photo without the watermark.
I already believed you didn't really have much of a clue what you were talking about based on posts throughout the thread, but now I'm starting to wonder if it's not just that you're necessarily ignorant and/or jaded (as evidenced from multiple posts), but instead simply trolling.
I get that you don't have the game and don't really have a great understanding of rendering and graphics etc, but how can you, with a straight face look at videos, images etc as posted prior, or GIFs like these and claim "HDZ and Drive club sky is dull...HDZ and Drive Club timelapse is literally almost the same barren small difference in cloud shape and animation.".
And I'd argue many of the cloud shots I posted earlier already look more realistic than some of the examples you've posted.
As per your Google image search request, some real world examples of sunsets in Colarado (where Horizon is based) versus the game. Comparing to random sunsets from around the world with completely different climates, ecologies, extremes of weather etc, would be as stupid as your prior post comparing completely different wood and metal types.
It's obviously still impossible to compare because similar to real life, skies in Horizon (and DRIVECLUB) are uniquely generated.
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What I hope SMS improve upon most in the sequel is the cinematography. Key dramatic moments were let down by some drab photography. The killing of the deer and
are two notable moments.
Edit: You know what's interesting? The deer scene was actually downgraded in that sense. Compare the deer scene in the game to the deer scene at E3.
I guess using the same location in the full game wasn't feasible. Bummer.
Kratos revealing he's a god in that poorly lit cave
Edit: You know what's interesting? The deer scene was actually downgraded in that sense. Compare the deer scene in the game to the deer scene at E3.
I guess using the same location in the full game wasn't feasible. Bummer.
I thought it was downgraded too, but the thing is they just used a different setting that makes the lighting brighter, and the wind doesn't blow as hard as it did in the E3 presentation.
I like the more subtle effect on the deer in the E3 presentation though. Not sure why they felt the need to brighten up the blue effects. Probably to make it seem less lifelike so no one felt that the scene feels cruel?
Kratos have the best character model I've ever seen in a video game
I agree, his muscles'anatomy show a great fidelity, plus the fact the animations are powered by the pose space deformation technology...only used in movies.
I just knew this as a fact from the first minute of the game
Proved to be wrong!
Subpar and mediocre!
For anyone joining us here, just let it again be clear that the person so vigorously claiming GOW has mediocre graphics tech has not played the game.
Of her hands? I actually had one saved on my phone lol
In terms of ranking I've got
1.ULL/UC4
2. GOW and HZD. Can't really say which looks overall better.
Of her hands? I actually had one saved on my phone lol
In terms of ranking I've got
1.ULL/UC4
2. GOW and HZD. Can't really say which looks overall better.
Amazing details !
I agree, GTS and DC are amazing too, some tiny details are incredible...
Clearly the best looking skybox in game and by far waaaaaay better than GOW. Not even close. Also the #2 looking water in game behind sea of theives. Completely blowing GOW out of the water.
Nope, it is not the shakiness of the drone. You can see the textures swapping and morphing in and out.
It is the shakiness. As you can clearly see below.
unless you believe mountains can shake and sway like that. Also clouds dissipates and appear aswell in RL so idk what you are talking about. the shaking of the drone mode plus the 10-24x speed up simply makes things look off.
The blending between potentially hundreds of thousands of 12k pictures look stunning. but obviously at 10-24x speed up, things become noticeable.
Yes DC skybox is WAŸYYYY better than GOW. That gap is also not close.
Shakiness has nothing to do with textures swapping in and out and the morphing effect it produces when it transitions between the textures. The cloudscape in FH3 is good looking because they literally captured high resolution pictures and video of real clouds and put them in a the game (oversimplification of course) this is a technique that is very prevalent in many games because it is cheap in terms of performance and produces a very good result when done properly, downside is when closely observed, you can see the seams and it appears 2 dimensional.
The first one is a real cloud for comparison.
As you can see above, one of them looks like a slideshow with the cross-fade, morphing effect and texture swapping that is clearly visible. I'm done carrying on this conversation because it is pointless.
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I can't imagine GOW's additional technical challenges as a character heavy 3rd person action game with no camera cuts and a focus on hand to hand combat would have left much room for a deep dive into skybox visual development.
Dwelling on skies just seems pretty moot in the grand scheme of things, especially when the go to comparisons tend to be racing games. Still complex in their own right, but there is arguably a greater breadth of visual challenges to tackle in a game like GOW.
Dwelling on skies just seems pretty moot in the grand scheme of things, especially when the go to comparisons tend to be racing games. Still complex in their own right, but there is arguably a greater breadth of visual challenges to tackle in a game like GOW.
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There's more to a skybox than simply cloud rendering. this is what you don't understand. atmospheric scattering, and more. All that adds together to crazy amazing sky vistas. Nothing that you will see in HDZ or DC.
But it doesn't matter as i have said before. The claims by multiple people in this thread that GOW has the "best skybox" is completely flawed.
HDZ, DC, AC and other games have way better skybox than it. And ofcourse topping off with the best skybox in a game ever being forza horizon 3.
You outright said that God of War lacked SSS, stop lying. Your goal post shifting is something else.
You can report a user if you click on the top right icon with the exclamation mark beside the post. There's some speculation that this user is an alt account, though I don't know if that's provable.
EDIT: Account was created on April 16th 2018 and literally has only posted in this thread aside from the Ryse v God of War thread and in the Detroit thread , for whatever that is worth. It's possible he's genuine.
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