Ghost of Tsushima Everything You Need to Know

Crossing Eden · May 15, 2020

Juan said:
Yep you're right, it's a different approach to emergent gameplay, one systemic and the other one physic focused, and it's true that both are available framework for Open World creation.

I hope we will see a game mixing both approach one day.

It's a hard task not only because of the development cost, (both devs needed more time than usual to get their ideas working), there's also the part where BOTW is incredibly stylized and thus a lot of the short hand is a lot more believable in that title. Compared to if you were to try to implement those features in a game like GoT or AC which are "realistic." And since the specifics of their design goals are quite different despite the same aim to create anecdote factories, the natural extremes are naturally quite different. The natural extreme of the current quality of AI behaviors in AC is a title like Watch Dogs Legion. Especially with better consoles on the way. Meanwhile BOTW2's devs will most likely double down and iterate on all of the physics and "chemistry" tech they came up with for the first game.

SecondNature · May 15, 2020

Callibretto said:
finally found that 2018 leaked info

I think this might be real after all, the thing about Samurai skill tree is unlocked from the start and you gradually learn Ghost skill tree seems fit with what SP say in this demo. also I think this leak is the first one mention anything about poison. and we see one of the charm can turn wind chime to release poison.

if the leak are real, then there are story mission where you will be required to be Samurai or Ghost. so for narrative purpose, I guess near the end of the game, you'll get more and more Ghost required mission than Samurai.

I am really interested in seeing the towns. Are they big? Surely not as big as Witcher, but it'd be nice to see a town that big.

I am hoping for castles, NPCs, busy streets/markets, but also vistas where you can explore caves, find chunky side-stories, etc.

Horizon's one main city was stunning, but disappointingly limited. It felt very small and disconnected from the world. Something I hope they improve big time for the sequel. Hopefully this game has a big town.

While I respect the grounded gameplay/story, it means we wont see anything somewhat supernatural like ghosts, creepy stories, etc. This limits the enemy variety. Wonder if there are animals to kill? Guessing enemies will be standard: Soldier, archer, heavy tanks, agility characters, alchemy characters.

I love the idea of exploring a scary Japanese castle or forest. Wish it was more like Game of Thrones where the game is grounded, but there's room for some "grounded" supernatural elements.

Crossing Eden · May 15, 2020

SecondNature said:
Wonder if there are animals to kill?

The player aggroed a bear that was attacking two soldiers/civilians in the demo. A nice bit of attention to detail is that animals have a specific paw shaped detection meter.

Juan · May 15, 2020

Crossing Eden said:
The natural extreme of the current quality of AI behaviors in AC

Such an interesting article to read, thank for sharing buddy!

ParsnipForest · May 15, 2020

The only bit that looked super jank to me was when he sniped the dude in the head by the gate. The enemy was basically side-on to the camera, he was shot in the side of the head, yet he snapped 45 degrees or whatever towards the player when he was shot. Stood out real bad in a game that looks so good otherwise.

dobahking91 · May 15, 2020

From Reddit something I didn't notice but at 17:20 the enemy with the "staff" weapon is parried with a slowed-time moment even happening, but takes a hit and is ready to continue fighting.

This reminds me of the fallen order's combat system.

Callibretto · May 15, 2020

dobahking91 said:
From Reddit something I didn't notice but at 17:20 the enemy with the "staff" weapon is parried with a slowed-time moment even happening, but takes a hit and is ready to continue fighting.

This reminds me of the fallen order's combat system.

You mean the first enemy? I don't think that's parry. Jin attack the first enemy with normal attack then parry the second

dobahking91 · May 15, 2020

Callibretto said:
You mean the first enemy? I don't think that's parry. Jin attack the first enemy with normal attack then parry the second

Yeah, the second one.
I think it depends on whether you break an enemy's posture.

Callibretto · May 15, 2020

dobahking91 said:
Yeah, the second one.
I think it depends on whether you break an enemy's posture.

That second guy could be dead and just don't know it yet lol. I think its kinda cool enemy stand around for a while before they drop dead. If you're quick enough, you can kill 2-3 enemy and they all drop at around the same time... after you've seathed your sword.

Loudninja · May 16, 2020

In the podcast it was mention by the devs that you can die very quickly. So yeah deflecting arrows, switching stances, and parrying while trying not to get hit too much will be exhilarating.

Mechaplum · May 16, 2020

ParsnipForest said:
The only bit that looked super jank to me was when he sniped the dude in the head by the gate. The enemy was basically side-on to the camera, he was shot in the side of the head, yet he snapped 45 degrees or whatever towards the player when he was shot. Stood out real bad in a game that looks so good otherwise.

I think that's the effect of using heavy arrows. The first shot he took with the half-bow didn't create this impact.

Chaystic · May 16, 2020

Loudninja said:
In the podcast it was mention by the devs that you can die very quickly. So yeah deflecting arrows, switching stances, and parrying while trying not to get hit too much will be exhilarating.

Love the sound of this.

lost7 · May 16, 2020

I really liked how the water stance looked distinctly different to the stone stance in terms of the sword strikes. Here's hoping there's 4 of these!

I assume the stone stance is more suited against heavy armored enemies while the water stance is better against archers/light armor. Any guess on what other stances there might be?

Callibretto · May 16, 2020

Jin carry 2 sword as samurai, think we'll see him wielding 2 sword as one of the style?

He also carry 3 sword as ghost. And voiced by Zoro. They better have 3 sword style in there. Lol

Loudninja · May 16, 2020

Callibretto said:
Jin carry 2 sword as samurai, think we'll see him wielding 2 sword as one of the style?

He also carry 3 sword as ghost. And voiced by Zoro. They better have 3 sword style in there. Lol

I see a charm in the video call Charm of Dual Destruction but they did not select it.

LifeBrandRobot · May 16, 2020

lost7 said:
I really liked how the water stance looked distinctly different to the stone stance in terms of the sword strikes. Here's hoping there's 4 of these!

I assume the stone stance is more suited against heavy armored enemies while the water stance is better against archers/light armor. Any guess on what other stances there might be?

Imma go out on a limb here and guess fire stance and wind stance lol.

Slaythe · May 16, 2020

Do we know if we can change Jin's hair and beard style / shave ?

He seems to have different facial hair on the cover of the game for some reason.

darkwing · May 16, 2020

LifeBrandRobot said:
Imma go out on a limb here and guess fire stance and wind stance lol.

there is water too

Apathy · May 16, 2020

Watching the combat segment, felt the deflecting the arrows parts were odd. Like the arrow was fired, looked like it already reached Jin and should have done damage, then he deflected them. Like a huge forgiveness gap

Callibretto · May 16, 2020

Apathy said:
Watching the combat segment, felt the deflecting the arrows parts were odd. Like the arrow was fired, looked like it already reached Jin and should have done damage, then he deflected them. Like a huge forgiveness gap

Do you think that's timing or just holding the block button?

lost7 · May 16, 2020

Apathy said:
Watching the combat segment, felt the deflecting the arrows parts were odd. Like the arrow was fired, looked like it already reached Jin and should have done damage, then he deflected them. Like a huge forgiveness gap

Yeah I noticed that. I'm hoping it's based on difficulty and that on hard the gap is much smaller.

Pegasos123 · May 16, 2020

Is it possible to disable those glowing bamboo bushes and noise UI elements?

BoJack · May 16, 2020

dobahking91 said:
From Reddit something I didn't notice but at 17:20 the enemy with the "staff" weapon is parried with a slowed-time moment even happening, but takes a hit and is ready to continue fighting.

This reminds me of the fallen order's combat system.

Am I the only one who can't choose between the normal version and the black and white version for the first playthrough?

forgiventhrice · May 16, 2020

Impressed by what they showed on Thursday. Deluxe version preordered

Loudninja · May 16, 2020

A few cool random things
1.The way the text get blown away by the wind after a objective is complete is a really nice touch
2.When you initiate a dual it goes into widescreen.

They doing so much cool stuff with this game.

BoJack said:
Am I the only one who can't choose between the normal version and the black and white version for the first playthrough?

I got to see all those environments in color first.

Deleted member 5725 · May 16, 2020

Loudninja said:
In the podcast it was mention by the devs that you can die very quickly. So yeah deflecting arrows, switching stances, and parrying while trying not to get hit too much will be exhilarating.

Dodging arrows is going to be hectic

Simo · May 16, 2020

So just looking at the clip and we get another look at some of the controls with the D-Pad being used to switch between long range uses be it throwables, the short or long bow. Holding the corresponding button on the D-Pad lets you then choose different options for "ammo" on the face buttons, ala Left on the D-Pad and then Triangle for Firecrackers or Up on the pad and then Triangle for fire arrows or Circle for regular etc.

I'm assuming then that perhaps we're swiping left or right on the Touch Pad to summon our horse or use the guiding wind.

Loudninja · May 16, 2020

I updated the Op to make things more clear.

I think each armor comes with restrictions as well as benefits, in the samurai I think Jin can crouch or most likely cannot used the grappling hook,or jump off his horse like the Ghost as well. We seen in the E3 demo he can use the grappling hook and crouch in his rain gear.

As pointed out by Jor it seems you have different objectives as Ghost and the Samurai. With the samurai his task was using he bow and killing the general, with the Ghost he just had to destroy the ship itself.

goons14 · May 16, 2020

The twitch stream was pretty poor in visual quality. But doing my 4K rewatch I saw Jin paying respect after he defeated enemy.

I thought that was a nice touch

Simo · May 17, 2020

Apparently the game has 2 music composers doing the soundtrack.

FantasticMrFoxdie · May 17, 2020

BoJack said:
Am I the only one who can't choose between the normal version and the black and white version for the first playthrough?

I'm pretty torn on this.

I hope they have/add a NG+

endlessflood · May 17, 2020

RedSwirl said:
Don't get me wrong: it's still a step forward, when all the samurai games we've gotten from Japan have been closer to like, Samurai 7 or Gintama or Inuyasha -- basically anime. Just getting a non-fantasy historical Japan game is a new thing. I know a handful of niche Japanese games like that exist, but I don't think any were released in western countries.

The Way Of The Samurai games are the only ones that really come to mind for me.

Slaythe · May 17, 2020

Do we know if we can change hair and facial hair ?

Thank you.

Loudninja · May 17, 2020

Slaythe said:
Do we know if we can change hair and facial hair ?

Thank you.

I have no idea. I guess they would have mention it if you could.

ket · May 17, 2020

does jin's ally, masako, look different in the latest gameplay?

e3 2018:

State of Play 2020:

Crossing Eden · May 17, 2020

ket said:
does jin's ally, masako, look different in the latest gameplay?

e3 2018:

State of Play 2020:

Two different characters.

ket · May 17, 2020

Crossing Eden said:
Two different characters.

the voice actress sounds the same

2020 story trailer (1:50)

E3 2018 trailer (4:10)

edit: they even appear to have the same bow and arrow quiver too

wubalubadubdub · May 17, 2020

Random Character said:
Bruh if Ghost of Tsushima and The Last of Us Part II looking this amazing on the PS4 I can only imagine what Sucker Punch and Naughty Dog are going to pull off creating games from the ground up on the PS5.

lol, I love Barry and can't wait for the next season.

cantbebothered · May 17, 2020

ket said:
the voice actress sounds the same

2020 story trailer (1:50)

E3 2018 trailer (4:10)

edit: they even appear to have the same bow and arrow quiver too

they sound different to me.
the e3 sounds older

ket · May 17, 2020

cantbebothered said:
they sound different to me.
the e3 sounds older

maybe they're sisters or cousins or something?

Domcorleone · May 17, 2020

Simo said:
Apparently the game has 2 music composers doing the soundtrack.

The music in the game is absolutely fantastic and is probably the best music ive heard in a videogame yet. Its 50% of the reason why im so hyped.

FF Seraphim · May 17, 2020

I do not think this has been posted yet but it is an interesting technical reaction from DF on Ghost:

JuanLatino · May 18, 2020

Do you think there will be a major town in this game (i am not sure if there were any during that timeline in Tsushima Island)

one of the main reasons why i wanted to have a Assassins Creed Game in Japan was to see the beautiful architectures and towns of feudal Japan.

Loudninja · May 18, 2020

JuanLatino said:
Do you think there will be a major town in this game (i am not sure if there were any during that timeline in Tsushima Island)

one of the main reasons why i wanted to have a Assassins Creed Game in Japan was to see the beautiful architectures and towns of feudal Japan.

The rumor info mention 2 towns

Random Character · May 18, 2020

woahitsshant said:
lol, I love Barry and can't wait for the next season.

Yup it's one of my favorite shows.

JuanLatino · May 18, 2020

Loudninja said:
The rumor info mention 2 towns

Oh my...please be true 👀

The Gentleman · May 18, 2020

Had a look at the geography of Tsushima and see it's made up of a few smaller islands too. Will there be boat traversal in GoT?

Loudninja · May 18, 2020

The Gentleman said:
Had a look at the geography of Tsushima and see it's made up of a few smaller islands too. Will there be boat traversal in GoT?

Hmm thats a good question I wonder as well. I see all type of ships and such in the distance wonder can you go aboard those.

thezboson · May 18, 2020

Am I the only one worried they are going to make this similar to inFamous? Like, "liberate three (nearly identical) camps to progress/unlock missions." I have tried to play inFamous 2 and Second Son but I can't get far before I stop playing. You repeat the same boring "activities" over and over, it gets tedious even if I try to only do what is required to progress the story.

The premise of GoT is fantastic, but too many things are identical between the two for me not to worry.

Loudninja · May 18, 2020

thezboson said:
Am I the only one worried they are going to make this similar to inFamous? Like, "liberate three (nearly identical) camps to progress/unlock missions." I have tried to play inFamous 2 and Second Son but I can't get far before I stop playing. You repeat the same boring "activities" over and over, it gets tedious even if I try to only do what is required to progress the story.

The premise of GoT is fantastic, but too many things are identical between the two for me not to worry.

Nope not worry

From E3 2018

Masako and her story are one of many side characters and quests that form the fabric of Ghost of Tsushima. These characters will play important parts in Jin's main storyline, but most of them will also have side quests and stories for you to explore. In fact, the demo you just watched is part of Masako's storyline, a side adventure off the game's main path.

"We want to make sure that everyone knows that what you're seeing in this demo is a sidequest – it's not part of the main throughline for Jin. It was important for us to have this first experience of gameplay for viewers to be through the lens of what a sidequest is, to show the depth of the game and how seriously we are taking the open world experience."

Mud, Blood, and Steel: Ghost of Tsushima Gameplay Debut

Sucker Punch gives us an early first look at katana gameplay for their upcoming open-world action adventure set in 13th-century Japan.

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