Giant Bomb |OT7| King Of The Garbage Boys
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1. Jeff gets frustrated
2. It's Garfield - objectively rad
3. Pretty decent cross-talk in the episodes
4. They have done fun things to mix it up like the Garfield insults or Garfield fanfic
I liked the GB take on the Arenanet situation
arenanet overreacted
but at the same time so did the writer who overreacted to a person inquiring about a writing thing
and no she didn't deserve the harassment
arenanet overreacted
but at the same time so did the writer who overreacted to a person inquiring about a writing thing
and no she didn't deserve the harassment
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It's 2:15am and here I am laying in bed, watching this Sonic Adventure intro in HD and feeling nostalgic about dumb ass video game opening songs...
which also lead me to go and rewatch as well as clip this upf moment...
and of course, can't forget its appearance in Demo Derby too.
which also lead me to go and rewatch as well as clip this upf moment...
and of course, can't forget its appearance in Demo Derby too.
I guess that explains why I don't like it. Don't really enjoy either feature.
Wish I did, chill GB is my fave.
I still gotta listen to Waypoint's podcast on it cause I think Austin was going into some good things on Twitter about how even if you think she did something wrong, it's so limiting to think that the only possible response a company can have is firing
personally I think the dude's message to her was like... well intentioned and politely written but actually pretty insulting/patronizing even if he meant well; had he not immediately started by saying she was wrong and/or said what he did in a form of a question ("do you think that _ could be a good solution to this?") it might have gone over better, instead of it coming across like he was saying she didn't know the field she worked in (and was discussing) + hadn't considered such an obvious thing...
and so though she might have been harsh, it can be pretty hard to read good vs bad faith "politeness" since this sort of thing doesn't happen in a vacuum separate from others coming at her in actual bad faith
Someone needs to tell Brad about Warframe's crossplay thing that people talked about in the Tennocon or Warframe Switch thread.
I like Garfield fine, but I do think its a bit odd that its West's most consistent feature over things like Game Tapes and Demo Derby.
Still haven't had a chance to listen, but as someone who's been fond of ArenaNet for years, the firings have come very close to putting me off from ever considering another game from them. The calculus there was so blatantly incorrect and twisted, it's unbelievable.
Garfield is one of the biggest franchises in the world, it no doubts brings in the views like no other feature
A shame I can't see Garfield with Gerstmann live since I'm working, but I bet it will be a hilarious conclusion. Are we getting that Garfield/Mass Effect fanfic this time?
Its basically Breaking Jeff and im all for him playing shit games that he needs to finish.
it's been almost 9 months since the last demo derby. I wish they'd ship it out East, what a waste of a premise :(
they should've reprimanded her instead of firing her, but really she put herself in a hard place by attacking this person who was literally fond of her work.
its a shitty situation all around
its from Aaron Ehasz and he wrote some of the best episodes of Avatar.
Also his absence from Korra was obvious since that series was not as good.
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Demo Derby East would work well because you have Abby who's the youngest and then Vinny the patriarch and Dan and Alex as the middle ground.
And the four bouncing off each other talking about gaming history and the demo at hand.
from his first tweet:
"I dont believe the issue lies in the MMORPG genre itself (as your wording seemingly suggest). I believe the issue lies in the contraints of the Living Story's narrative design"
at a basic level, he's saying she's wrong to say MMOs have the problem she's describing, and that it's specific to GW2 (which then implies she doesn't understand MMOs in general, or that she's projecting stuff from GW2 on all MMOs, etc.); even if you don't want to look at the implications, I can't see a reading there that isn't him saying she's wrong
in general I feel like there's been a lot of talk about his polite tone and him being nice, when I think that matters fairly little compared to what he was actually conveying, and whether he needed to say it, and whether this feedback he was giving was at all valuable
cause at the end of the day he's suggesting an incredibly common and well known thing (uh, multiple choice dialogue) as if it's a unique insight he can offer, and making assumptions about their mentality for doing things? and that can only feel patronizing to me, cause of course they've thought through what he's saying already- just because they're not doing it in the game as is doesn't mean they've never thought about multiple choice dialogue to add more player agency before, which might be the oldest and most basic thing you can do with the concept of meaningful choice in games! particularly as his reasoning is that this would increase investment in roleplaying, as if that's the big issue... when hours before she'd already made tweets later in thread talking about how players already being invested and how that impacts what she's discussing
like I said, had he not come in like that or phrased it as a question (and so clearly wanting her take on it, rather than debating it) it wouldn't have seemed like he was making assumptions about their mentality, like he was implying anything about her knowledge, like he was presenting something they hadn't considered
and at the end of the day we just can't use outwardly polite phrasing as a sign of good faith anyway, right? it does seem like he meant well here! but you could throw a lot of that phrasing, and his response about "creating dialogue and discussion", in the mouth of someone shitty who's absolutely coming at this in bad faith and disingenuously trying to start something and acting shocked when no one's up for entertaining it, and it would outwardly seem just as polite and respectable then, so that alone cannot be a determining factor
(...also, I didn't even consider this till now, but what's that weird bit about achievements even about? I want to find a generous interpretation for it, but without context it just sounds sorta bitter about something in the game?)
I was looking at Xbox One's on the Facebook marketplace and I don't know why...
I already have a PS4 and Switch.
I already have a PS4 and Switch.
I'm also in favor of Demo Derby coming to the East. Dan was one of the original dudes who made the feature after all and the chemistry between him and Abby acting all zany and Vinny and Alex being the straight guys makes sense. Well if they bring Demo Derby at all period, I'd be happy.
Though not gonna lie, the Epilogue of the Shenmue ER was very Demo Derby-ish.
Though not gonna lie, the Epilogue of the Shenmue ER was very Demo Derby-ish.
let me think about it
oh it'll play for daddy
i feel like jeff hasn't streamed in forever
which makes sense, lotta STUFF GOIN' ON, but i felt like he had a good run of streaming from home going for a while and it is always cool to see some games bein played
i await more streams eagerly
which makes sense, lotta STUFF GOIN' ON, but i felt like he had a good run of streaming from home going for a while and it is always cool to see some games bein played
i await more streams eagerly
that's not saying she's wrong though
he's giving his opinion-"I don't believe the issue lies in the MMORPG genre itself(as you suggested)."
It's simple as that. It's as simple as not extrapolating more than needs to be extrapolated. There was evidence in the locked thread in gaming that he legit was a fan of her stuff. He simply offered his opinion right after she did an AMA on writing-the tweet she made was about the subject on hand, it wasn't a random tweet he responded to. He didn't come out swinging with 'NO YOU'RE WRONG IT'S NOT AN MMORPG ISSUE', he didn't say 'You're wrong and here's why', he didn't even say 'Let me tell you why it can be done'. It's literally 'I don't believe the issue lies in the mmorpg genre itself'.
That's all. It didn't deserve a response of calling him a rando asshat(When apparently he was partnered with arenanet) and to claim he was a sexist who was mansplaining. He probably feels like shit that this writer he likes isn't working on his favorite game right now.
Like I said, she didn't deserve to be fired. She didn't deserve the harassment. But she shouldn't have come out swinging at an innocuous conversation.