Honestly doesn't bode well for Suicide Squad or Gotham Knights.
I don't think people care for stat-chasing in their Superhero games.
I don't think people care for stat-chasing in their Superhero games.
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Gotta say... the Avengers game died pretty fast.
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I'm just saying it seems silly to make definitive statements based on a beta experience, since games *always* change between beta and full release.
I'm not saying you should magically start liking the game or anything, it's of course totally fine that it's not for you. I'm just leery of anyone using stuff from betas as evidence, that's all lol
Well they delayed their big chance to get people back on board (the next gen port) to who the fuck knows next year. They could have salvaged the game.
Everything about this game to me screams "could be a great game....in like a year or two." Like there's just enough going right in there that when it clicks together it really fucking clicks together, but there's so much keeping it from doing it consistently, the first being the shit-ton of bugs and stability and porting issues, the second being the sheer lack of endgame content that really needs to be kicked in sooner rather than later. I can see this potentially rebounding when the next-gen versions come out, the question is whether or not it's going to make it.
For better and for worse Suicide Squad and Gotham Knights look like significantly smaller and more refined experiences compared to Avengers. For better because Avengers seems to have clearly been outdone by its own ambition while SS and GK look more reliably functioning and safe and achieving in what they're intended to do. For worse because if Avengers does manage to fix itself and get rolling then it's got a whole lot more going for it long-term (at least compared to GK, since we know nothing about SS).
For better and for worse Suicide Squad and Gotham Knights look like significantly smaller and more refined experiences compared to Avengers. For better because Avengers seems to have clearly been outdone by its own ambition while SS and GK look more reliably functioning and safe and achieving in what they're intended to do. For worse because if Avengers does manage to fix itself and get rolling then it's got a whole lot more going for it long-term (at least compared to GK, since we know nothing about SS).
I think this game needed to be a singleplayer 20-30 hour cinematic story. Semi-open world. That being said. I have not played it. I just know that I love the spiderman game. It did story perfectly.
As someone who likes it, it is still a technical mess and essentially still in beta. It's being fixed and things like prices/matchmaking are in fact being addressed but they really shouldn't have been problems to begin with. And now given the pandemic circumstances, fixes will take longer. The campaign is def worth 20 bucks. Once inevitable fire sales happen, might be worth a grab for marvel heads bc the combat is really fun.
But this really needs more end game content, rerolls and stability. Kate got delayed so they can clean up the mess -- which says everything. It's also quite telling that Ghosts of Tsushima got an ADD-ON MODE that does what Avengers set out do but MUCH better and with loot, to boot.
Here's hoping for a 2.0 relaunch in 6 months. It's not ready for primetime. I want it to be fixed because it's fun.
Have a feeling this will be f2p in a year tbh.
But this really needs more end game content, rerolls and stability. Kate got delayed so they can clean up the mess -- which says everything. It's also quite telling that Ghosts of Tsushima got an ADD-ON MODE that does what Avengers set out do but MUCH better and with loot, to boot.
Here's hoping for a 2.0 relaunch in 6 months. It's not ready for primetime. I want it to be fixed because it's fun.
Have a feeling this will be f2p in a year tbh.
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Amazingly fun combat, with lots of bugs and a lot of recycled content. I personally adored the campaign (minus the crashes) and wish the coop content matched the quality of some of the single player missions (that last level was LIT fam. I hope they do stuff like that for "raids"). The matchmaking not working well at all when they actually had an audience was the nail on the coffin. I still enjoy playing it but I'm basically forced to play it single player at this point, which sucks because I hate playing with the 3 mindless bots. Would be so much better if you could switch between your team like in Ultimate Alliance.
I hope they turn things around with added content and gameplay tweaks. As usual with these kinds of GaaS launches, I expect it to be a full fledged great game in a year from now.
I hope they turn things around with added content and gameplay tweaks. As usual with these kinds of GaaS launches, I expect it to be a full fledged great game in a year from now.
Thread got me looking at the charts for this game
Went from 30k to 1k in about a month. I wonder if this'll make Square more wary of American IPs.
steamdb.info
Went from 30k to 1k in about a month. I wonder if this'll make Square more wary of American IPs.
Marvel's Avengers · AppID: 997070
Assemble your team of Earth’s Mightiest Heroes, embrace your powers, and live your Super Hero dreams. Marvel's Avengers Steam charts, data, update history.
steamdb.info
Yeah, it's not even the most-played Crystal Dynamics game at the moment:
Nor is it the second-most-played Crystal Dynamics game at the moment:
Not sure anyone should be surprised by that in all honesty. Mario is a little overpriced, but it's 2 great games and 1 pretty good one against a pretty.....meh one. Shit, I got Avenger's for free from Verizon and I still didn't play it.
The single player campaign is the most amazing part of the game...
Unfortunately you can never play it over again once you beat it. Real shame.
Unfortunately you can never play it over again once you beat it. Real shame.
I have no doubt its some sort of live service game because a) its clearly a game made for co-op and b) it's Warner Bros. They've hopped on every gaming trend the last decade from online passes to season passes to loot boxes to whatever the hell that mobile harry potter game was.
Oh definitely, and I figure you're talking about Suicide Squad but it'll most likely apply to Gotham Knights as well. And they'll most likely in an actual functioning state at release, the question is how much longevity are you going to get out of "Arkham co-op missions with not-Batman" and "Suicide Squad-themed hero shooter". Avengers' sell of "large-scale MUA" could actually work really well for a really long time, it just has to actually work and actually have a variety of things to do.
I will enter every thread about this to complain about the insane and stupid call to only include three villains.
I can't even believe that another villain hasn't been in an update. What were they thinking? It's the whole point of using Marvel heroes is to fight Marvel villains. We can fight mechs and grunts in ANY game.
I can't even believe that another villain hasn't been in an update. What were they thinking? It's the whole point of using Marvel heroes is to fight Marvel villains. We can fight mechs and grunts in ANY game.
The online sign in DRM for single player campaign was a reason alone to make me not purchase it.
I like it, just waiting for some bugs to get worked out, some new characters, and my PS5 to arrive.
Well its a bad game, why would anyone continue?
gameplay is weak, launch multiplayer was broken, endgame non existent, borderline gacha mechanics.
the devs fucked up.
SaaS games clearly are very difficult to create. Name one that was good on launch?
I say this as Destiny die hard, and a fan of The Division.
gameplay is weak, launch multiplayer was broken, endgame non existent, borderline gacha mechanics.
the devs fucked up.
SaaS games clearly are very difficult to create. Name one that was good on launch?
I say this as Destiny die hard, and a fan of The Division.
People play all sorts of crap.
I think the problem is that when you make a f2p game, you should probably make it f2p.
I think people are under estimating how good the core gameplay is. The gameplay is fun. Technical aspects really were awful. Didn't stop me from playing a good amount of it. I'm sure they'll put a lot of work into it and it'll be better in a year or so. I'll come back then and jump in occasionally.
I support you every step of the way.
It's surreal to think that anyone who played through half of the beta (less than that, maybe?) saw every supervillain in the game short of the final boss.
I think it's less that and more that with these live GaaS titles (like MMOs back in the day), you have to stick the landing. It doesn't matter what the production budget was, it doesn't matter how much you marketed it, and it doesn't matter how popular the IP is. It matters that the game is fun, that the grind is not too steep, that the experience is overall a good one, and that most importantly the loot and leveling systems are good and that you have a robust endgame. You can't get people addicted to your game when you made sacrifices in terms of gameplay systems in order to give players something to grind, but you completely botched all the hooks that will keep them playing. If GK or SS launch as complete titles with those things in mind, they can be very successful. If they launch just yet another game with the same problems like Anthem or this, they'll likely get the same result.
meh, they've committed to updating it for a year at least... from a personal/player perspective, it's okay to put the game down for a bit and come back to it, it's not like it's going to remain static.
i dont really understand the obsession with engagement/business side of it tbh, maybe Square-Enix/CD look at as a success if im buying skins and playing every day, but i don't... knowing it's going to add new shit and heroes over the next year that i'll get enjoyment out of likely without paying a penny more is good enough for me
and im sure it'll get a nice boost with the PS5/Spiderman edition
i dont really understand the obsession with engagement/business side of it tbh, maybe Square-Enix/CD look at as a success if im buying skins and playing every day, but i don't... knowing it's going to add new shit and heroes over the next year that i'll get enjoyment out of likely without paying a penny more is good enough for me
and im sure it'll get a nice boost with the PS5/Spiderman edition
As a marvel movie only fan, I didn't want to play as characters I didn't know. That's why I didn't get it, plus the spiderman exclusive bs.
I still stand by the opinion that they should have just temporarily delayed it and still give it time to cook because clearly, releasing it in the state it's in wasn't worth it since people are barely playing it. The reality is, it'll likely get a small revival via Black Friday sales assuming they do a good discount across all platforms. It's sad because with more time they could have done something real special, but it is what it is. I'm still happy I never bought it day one despite loving Marvel.
There isn't enough room in the market for all of the big GaaS games that publishers are trying to hit a home run with. It's like when they were all trying to sell MMORPGs – there are a small number of dominant titles, a bunch are going to flop, and publishers will finally give up and move on to chasing the next big trend.
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If it was truly an actual beta. Betas of this generation have usually been within a few weeks of launch and that is never enough time to "change" the game before launch. You may see a few critical bug fixes but it's usually just to test server load and a LOT of the criticisms people have during the "beta" are still there after release.
Also, attaching a beta to pre-orders speak volumes in and of itself. How is someone suppose to change their mind based on what was played if their digital pre-order is already locked in which guarantees a purchase even if they hated it?
I mean the fact you couldnt customize or create your own hero in this type of game, i knew it was going to fail fast, whats the point of collecting all this gear an cool shit an your character doesnt even look different, thats the whole point of these kind of games.Not only that, everyone else you meet are damn near using the same fucking characters because you only have a handful to choose from, even if the loadouts are different. Had this been a Create your own hero an have the real heroes as mentors / playable in the single player modes (an maybe even stock real Avengers for MP) it would've done far better.
Its a damn shame now that Sony bought Insomniac we probably will never get the Ultimate Avengers game we couldve probably gotten sigh. I dont see Marvel letting Sony make a Avengers game an only keep it to there platform
Its a damn shame now that Sony bought Insomniac we probably will never get the Ultimate Avengers game we couldve probably gotten sigh. I dont see Marvel letting Sony make a Avengers game an only keep it to there platform
Avengers on PC is still constantly crashing and a game breaking bug filled thing. Will play it again once it's playable. I haven't seen a game as buggy as it ever, if you told me this was still in alpha I'd believe you.
You underestimate Rocksteady as a developer and Warner Borthers' advertising dollar.
