Manafort was explicitly breaking the rules of his agreement while he was under arrest.Lol.
He's an asshole and I want him to rot, but still......
Maybe Manafort sang some songs in the end.
Manafort was explicitly breaking the rules of his agreement while he was under arrest.Lol.
He's an asshole and I want him to rot, but still......
Maybe Manafort sang some songs in the end.
What Jussie has to worry about is that letter and if the prosecutors can prove that he's the one that sent it. That's a much more serious situation.
Right, it's like a trial in a country with barely any rights for the accused at all, where they also say it's fine because they at least let the accused speak for themselves at some point, but in the end there's still a 99% conviction rate.The prosecutor presents the facts of the case to a jury who decides if there is enough facts to support the elements of the crime, or any other crimes that might be applicable. It's not the opinion of the prosecutor, however the jury is heavily influenced by the prosecutor though. There is typically testimony during the grand jury as well, not just the prosecutor.
Right, it's like a trial in a country with barely any rights for the accused at all, where they also say it's fine because at least we let the accused speak for themselves at some point.
Which is fine because it's just an additional step over the prosecutor just bringing it straight to court where the accused has all their rights, but not fine to be treated as anything more than a prosecutor's opinion.
I guess you could maybe treat it as 1% more than the prosecutor's opinion.
No one knows what a grand jury is. They just know what a jury is and assume it must be somehow more grand. And for people who do know what it is, it adds basically no information more than just saying he was indicted. That's what makes it misleading.But he was indicted by a grand jury so that's what the article says.
Nobody gets convicted by the grand jury, it's a checks and balances system for felony charges to ensure people don't just get accused of crimes without any basis. I'm not sure where you're getting the 99% thing from, probably cynicism of the justice system which I get, but I've seen many charges refused by the grand jury because getting a group of people to agree on anything is usually a challengeRight, it's like a trial in a country with barely any rights for the accused at all, where they also say it's fine because they at least let the accused speak for themselves at some point, but in the end there's still a 99% conviction rate.
Which is fine because it's just an additional step over the prosecutor just bringing it straight to court where the accused has all their rights, but not fine to be treated as anything more than a prosecutor's opinion.
I guess you could maybe treat it as 1% more than the prosecutor's opinion.
No one knows what a grand jury is. They just know what a jury is and assume it must be somehow more grand. And for people who do know what it is, it adds basically no information more than just saying he was indicted. That's what makes it misleading.
If it was called something boring like an arraignment committee, it never would be in headlines.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ferguson-federal-grand-jury-indictment-statistics-history-134942645.htmlNobody gets convicted by the grand jury, it's a checks and balances system for felony charges to ensure people don't just get accused of crimes without any basis. I'm not sure where you're getting the 99% thing from, probably cynicism of the justice system which I get, but I've seen many charges refused by the grand jury because getting a group of people to agree on anything is usually a challenge
It's pointless information, which can only go one way toward misleading, and isn't needed for the head such as:It would say "Comittee Indicts..."
I don't understand the desire to hold back information because not everyone is a lawyer. A grand jury indicted the guy.
I especially don't understand using this particular case to raise that issue.
It's pointless information, which can only go one way toward misleading, and isn't needed for the head such as:
Jussie Smollett indicted on 16 counts over allegedly phony claims of racist, homophobic attack
Actually, its the perfect case.Of all the cases to raise this I'm not sure this is a good choice.
But what important info does it even add?And the first line of the article is?
It's fine to say a grand jury is the source of the indictments. Because it is. I don't want my news catered to idiots.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ferguson-federal-grand-jury-indictment-statistics-history-134942645.html
In the more than 162,500 cases prosecuted by U.S. attorneys from 2009 to 2010, grand juries voted not to return an indictment in only 11, according to data from the Bureau of Justice Statistics — equivalent to one in 14,759 cases, or 0.0068
He probably won't serve prison time unless he refuses to sign a plea deal, loses, and then the judge really throws the book at him for wasting everyone's time.
Also considering how infrequently people get charged with filing a false police report to begin with. Although Jussie took it to another level with his accusationsActually, its the perfect case.
A false police report versus, every single thing manafort did and continued to do, will see less time in the media, as well as less time in prison than Jusse's about to if it all goes the way it usually does. Jusse will be made an example of, unlike Manafort.
yep
Big difference here is that Manafort committed multiple crimes, and made a mockery of the justice system, and the judge even made comments about how hes still a good person outside of all that. But hes wealthy and white.
Juss is about to have the book thrown at him and likely get the max for everything. Like all POC generally do.
Pretty much, they got him dead to rights, no need for a trial where it's a foregone conclusion for him to potentially end up shit creek if it went through the full process.He probably won't serve prison time unless he refuses to sign a plea deal, loses, and then the judge really throws the book at him for wasting everyone's time.
Actually, its the perfect case.
A false police report versus, every single thing manafort did and continued to do, will see less time in the media, as well as less time in prison than Jusse's about to if it all goes the way it usually does. Jusse will be made an example of, unlike Manafort.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ferguson-federal-grand-jury-indictment-statistics-history-134942645.html
In the more than 162,500 cases prosecuted by U.S. attorneys from 2009 to 2010, grand juries voted not to return an indictment in only 11, according to data from the Bureau of Justice Statistics — equivalent to one in 14,759 cases, or 0.0068 percent.I was being generous by not saying 99.997%
Also considering how infrequently people get charged with filing a false police report to begin with. Although Jussie took it to another level with his accusations
Unless he's an even bigger idiot than we already suspect he'll plead guilty and stay out of jail completely. Him being charged with crimes isn't shocking because we all realize at this point that he committed crimes.
Nothing more American than locking someone up over a nonviolent crime.
ya he fucked up, but breaking news fucking up? Nah, thats just the system working as intended.
Uhh...Jussie's the one who intended this to be talked about in the first place. He was a gay actor who experienced a brutal hate attack, who was standing up to hate and looking like a role model to many people. People wanted to support him and propelled the story further. Now that it's revealed it was all fake you're shocked that it's considered "breaking news" as if this hasn't been a story people have genuinely cared about since it was first reported? Come the fuck on.
Your new to this whole America thing?No way he does over 46 months. Just no after a treasonous bastard got that. No way.
This is going to be fucked if he does.
hmm..Experts believe it is likely he will strike a plea deal and potentially not spend time in prison.
I don't have any shame in asking for more clarification. Tell me what you think is going on.He lied.. and thats that. This was breaking news over a white supremacist coast guard wannabe with an arsenal and a congressional hit list.. at the time. You do understand what is going on here, right?
This is all gonna go plea bargain, no time as much as people want to get hyped up about some jail time. Likely will just be a big fine and not much more.
I don't have any shame in asking for more clarification. Tell me what you think is going on.
What is this post? I crime shouldn't need to inherently be violent for someone to get locked up.Nothing more American than locking someone up over a nonviolent crime.
This is all gonna go plea bargain, no time as much as people want to get hyped up about some jail time. Likely will just be a big fine and not much more.