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Arcus Felis · Jun 17, 2018

... So. I am currently going throught "that" area. I'll just say that there is a lot of platforming involved, and leave it at that.

Since when does this game turned into Super Meat Boy?! At least in SMB you have a good view of everything. This area is a trial for my patience.

KLoWn · Jun 17, 2018

Nori Chan said:
Anyone?

I'm 99,9% sure you can get everything no matter what you do.

I've heard you can miss a certain thing in

The Abyss

after a certain point, but it's only purpose is to sell it to get some cash, so nothing major.

Pirateluigi · Jun 17, 2018

Was cruising through the game when I fought the first boss to really knock me on my ass.

Lost Kin kicked my butt quite a few times. Thankfully it's so quick to restart the fight

Snormy · Jun 17, 2018

mazi said:
crystal peaks question:

am is supposed to be able to pass the fast press thingies, or should i come back later?

I managed it but it was tough.

Feral · Jun 17, 2018

Arcus Felis said:
... So. I am currently going throught "that" area. I'll just say that there is a lot of platforming involved, and leave it at that.

Since when does this game turned into Super Meat Boy?! At least in SMB you have a good view of everything. This area is a trial for my patience.

if you have trouble go check out a certain place in Kingdom's Edge that's, uh, positively buzzing with activity, you can see a room that can't be reached the conventional way, you might find something very useful there for this section

also, I've read earlier that they added more checkpoints so really you have it easy

Villa · Jun 17, 2018

After loving the game for the first couple of areas, then going through a really frustrating patch for a few hours that was sucking the joy out of the game, I'm back to really enjoying it thankfully.

I was just unlucky in my exploration during that section, unknowingly choosing difficult and fairly distant areas with not many seats or stations. But have gained some new abilities, discovered more areas, and feeling more motivated and confident in exploring further. The openness of the game does seem like a bit of a two edged sword, where if you unknowingly choose the 'wrong' routes, missing important things like maps, stations, new abilities, etc, you really make it harder and it doesn't feel like interesting exploration so much as stumbling around in the dark with no reward. Thankfully I pushed through and enjoying it much more now.

The Crystal Peak area was awesome, loved it. Now looking around some of the deeper sections. Definitely need to upgrade my nail a second time though, trying to fight a boss down there and he's not too difficult, he's just got so much health and I mustn't be doing that much damage. I can't avoid damage forever, so I eventually die.

dipship31 · Jun 17, 2018

I think I may be a little stuck. I've gotten I think to about 3 main areas and have the maps for 2 of them. I've explored every area I can reach I'm assuming without certain items and power ups. Are there any commonly missed skills or items that happen early game that can prevent you from moving forward? Really liking the game but seems like the kind where just one small detail being missed can halt the progress

Disclaimer · Jun 17, 2018

So, I just upgraded my Nail, and I'm stumped.

There doesn't seem to be anything more to explore around the Nailsmith, and I went right at the elevator and met Hornet at the Hollow Knight Memorial, but the way past there is barred by a gate, so I tried to backtrack to the entrance of the area... only to find it barred by a gate, and another path barred by a gate too.

Where do I go? Haven't found a map of the area yet, but I've backtracked everywhere I can and can't find any new paths or exits.

twisted89 · Jun 17, 2018

edit:

Beaten

Feral · Jun 17, 2018

dipship31 said:
I think I may be a little stuck. I've gotten I think to about 3 main areas and have the maps for 2 of them. I've explored every area I can reach I'm assuming without certain items and power ups. Are there any commonly missed skills or items that happen early game that can prevent you from moving forward? Really liking the game but seems like the kind where just one small detail being missed can halt the progress

the first two bosses are on a linear path, you can get a third essential ability before fighting any third boss. The game tells you where to look for that ability, but it's in the

third area.

After that, there are a multitude of different paths you can take

'3y Kingdom · Jun 17, 2018

dipship31 said:
I think I may be a little stuck. I've gotten I think to about 3 main areas and have the maps for 2 of them. I've explored every area I can reach I'm assuming without certain items and power ups. Are there any commonly missed skills or items that happen early game that can prevent you from moving forward? Really liking the game but seems like the kind where just one small detail being missed can halt the progress

Did you know that you can slash downwards in midair? Experiment with that a bit.

Sayre · Jun 17, 2018

Disclaimer said:
So, I just upgraded my Nail, and I'm stumped.

There doesn't seem to be anything more to explore around the Nailsmith, and I went right at the elevator and met Hornet at the Hollow Knight Memorial, but the way past there is barred by a gate, so I tried to backtrack to the entrance of the area... only to find it barred by a gate, and another path barred by a gate too.

Where do I go? Haven't found a map of the area yet, but I've backtracked everywhere I can and can't find any new paths or exits.

when you are in the open area outdoors, you'll see that there is a platform above that is unreachable. There actually is a way to reach it.

Disclaimer · Jun 17, 2018

Sayre said:
when you are in the open area outdoors, you'll see that there is a platform above that is unreachable. There actually is a way to reach it.

I did see that, and I tried jump dashing off the elevator mid-ascent, but that didn't work. I'll try to figure something else out. Thanks!

Phil's Empty Chair · Jun 17, 2018

I hate asking but Im 15 hours in and dont know where to go

I cant doublejump,cross hot water and get past those black mist walls. Ive defeated the Soul Master but not the Mantis Lords

Ive added my exploration so far

All I need is a direction

Feral · Jun 17, 2018

A_R_N_O_S said:
I hate asking but Im 15 hours in and dont know where to go

I cant doublejump,cross hot water and get past those black mist walls. Ive defeated the Soul Master but not the Mantis Lords

Ive added my exploration so far

All I need is a direction

go further down, but maybe not to the Deepnest

you missed a few things on the map
you'll need something from the

Crystal Peaks

if you don't have that already

MonkeySleeve · Jun 17, 2018

A_R_N_O_S said:
I hate asking but Im 15 hours in and dont know where to go

I cant doublejump,cross hot water and get past those black mist walls. Ive defeated the Soul Master but not the Mantis Lords

Ive added my exploration so far

All I need is a direction

Go explore Greenpath a bit more :)

Phil's Empty Chair · Jun 17, 2018

MonkeySleeve said:
Go explore Greenpath a bit more :)

Bedankt! Thought I couldnt proceed there but silly me didnt think of bouncing of a shieldbug!

Feral · Jun 17, 2018

MonkeySleeve said:
Go explore Greenpath a bit more :)

now, I haven't played the game in over a year but I'd say my directions are more accurate for those missing abilities :p

Kyuuji · Jun 17, 2018

Only 3hrs in but the wait was worth it. Fantastic game so far.

Y2Kev · Jun 17, 2018

High marks from me so far. Almost done with Greenpath. I will say I'm not sure about the mapping. One of the most satisfying parts of Metroidvania for me is the automapping. Having to buy a map that is basically sketched out isn't my favorite. I would rather fill in a blank map. BUT the feeling of exploration here is great.

Sayre · Jun 17, 2018

Y2Kev said:
High marks from me so far. Almost done with Greenpath. I will say I'm not sure about the mapping. One of the most satisfying parts of Metroidvania for me is the automapping. Having to buy a map that is basically sketched out isn't my favorite. I would rather fill in a blank map. BUT the feeling of exploration here is great.

I hate the feeling of not seeing my path until I buy the area map but I'm getting used to it. At the very least, the map you buy is not completely filled in, so there is still some discovery and exploration.

GuEiMiRrIRoW · Jun 17, 2018

Y2Kev said:
High marks from me so far. Almost done with Greenpath. I will say I'm not sure about the mapping. One of the most satisfying parts of Metroidvania for me is the automapping. Having to buy a map that is basically sketched out isn't my favorite. I would rather fill in a blank map. BUT the feeling of exploration here is great.

At the beggining I was not feeling it, but the, it felt like playing darksouls. Should i keep going!? Should i go back to save!? Hey, where did i come from!?

Its an amazing feeling of been lost in this really obscure and dangerous world. Actually, it showed me why i love dark souls... it's an evolution of the metroidvania series.

Hollow knight brings that to a 2d world.

Feral · Jun 17, 2018

it's funny that the devs say that the game wasn't inspired by Dark Souls when so many of the famous DS elements made it into HK, even if just by coincidence

DekuBleep · Jun 17, 2018

Menace said:
it's funny that the devs say that the game wasn't inspired by Dark Souls when so many of the famous DS elements made it into HK, even if just by coincidence

Other than losing your exp upon death and needing to recover it before your next death, none of the game design that I have seen so far comes from Souls.

MonkeySleeve · Jun 17, 2018

Menace said:
now, I haven't played the game in over a year but I'd say my directions are more accurate for those missing abilities :p

True, but i'd say that getting to Greenpath would be the natural progression :P

Dphex · Jun 17, 2018

Menace said:
it's funny that the devs say that the game wasn't inspired by Dark Souls when so many of the famous DS elements made it into HK, even if just by coincidence

like iframe rolling, blocking, stats, different weapons, character levels ? .-) but i know what you mean, i just think it stands very well on it´s own feet even if there are elements that are reminiscent of DS. I think it´s just the "oldschool" game design that is the same and vague storytelling. The "decaying" world maybe. In the end they are both masterclass level games and have the same kind of "magic".

Feral · Jun 17, 2018

DekuBleep said:
Other than losing your exp upon death and needing to recover it before your next death, none of the game design that I have seen so far comes from Souls.

setting (dying world, minus the bugs), the way the story is told, the way the NPCs interact with you and how you run into them again in other places, ending spoiler

bittersweet ending

these things come to my mind right now

Raijinto · Jun 17, 2018

So I beat the first boss of the game and acquired the aerial attack and I have several hundred of the currency/EXP. Is the shop where I got the map the only place to spend it, and what should I prioritise spending it on?

MonkeySleeve · Jun 17, 2018

Raijinto said:
So I beat the first boss of the game and acquired the aerial attack and I have several hundred of the currency/EXP. Is the shop where I got the map the only place to spend it, and what should I prioritise spending it on?

Get the Gathering Swarm charm from the shop, that way you don't have to really worry about Geo :)

Deleted member 3040 · Jun 17, 2018

I posted earlier in this thread that I was thought the game was growing stale after the initial hours. I've now played more and I take that back. It's been a blast so far.

Raijinto · Jun 17, 2018

MonkeySleeve said:
Get the Gathering Swarm charm from the shop, that way you don't have to really worry about Geo :)

OK thank you. At least I have a goal in mind now, and thanks for telling me the name of it lol.

Arcus Felis · Jun 17, 2018

Menace said:
setting (dying world, minus the bugs), the way the story is told, the way the NPCs interact with you and how you run into them again in other places, ending spoiler

bittersweet ending

these things come to my mind right now

You can add to this hidden whole zones that you can completely skip if you don't know where to look.

Feral · Jun 17, 2018

MonkeySleeve said:
True, but i'd say that getting to Greenpath would be the natural progression :P

when I first looked at the map I was thinking hey you have already explored all those areas why don't you have ability x? but then I remembered that the map is auto filled and they probably just missed a whole bunch of stuff

GwyndolinCinder · Jun 17, 2018

Playing through a second time really makes you appreciate how open this game is once you've wall jump. I didnt know you could get to crystal peak with just wall jump, and now im starting the "main quest" of the game which i didnt start for a very long time on my first playthrough.
I havent even been CoT yet, base level nail still. (Pick up the upgraded length from MantisLs thoughs.

Carpathia · Jun 17, 2018

Beat it today with the best ending, took me 30 hours. I don't know where to put this gamer among all the metroivania games but is one of the best if not the best.

Deleted member 36578 · Jun 17, 2018

Rockman ZX said:
Beat it today with the best ending, took me 30 hours. I don't know where to put this gamer among all the metroivania games but is one of the best if not the best.

Hell yeah. Grats :)

SunBroDave · Jun 17, 2018

Rockman ZX said:
Beat it today with the best ending, took me 30 hours. I don't know where to put this gamer among all the metroivania games but is one of the best if not the best.

Congrats! Now go do the Grimm Troupe content and come back once you've reached the true-est final boss: the Path of Pain.

Phil's Empty Chair · Jun 17, 2018

I really needed to go to Deepnest, had to look it up unfortunately. Learned you can bounce off cther things as well. I entered it via the pit.

DekuBleep · Jun 17, 2018

Arcus Felis said:
You can add to this hidden whole zones that you can completely skip if you don't know where to look.

I don't think that was introduced in Souls games.

Aprikurt · Jun 17, 2018

Man with Steamworld 2, Bloodstained, Hollow Knight, and countless others, the Switch is Metroidvania Nirvana.

DekuBleep · Jun 17, 2018

ScreenSplitter said:
Man with Steamworld 2, Bloodstained, Hollow Knight, and countless others, the Switch is Metroidvania Nirvana.

Are those first two also good?

Creamium · Jun 17, 2018

ScreenSplitter said:
Man with Steamworld 2, Bloodstained, Hollow Knight, and countless others, the Switch is Metroidvania Nirvana.

And Mummy Demastered. I never got back to it and will restart since they updated post-release, but that game is great. Obviously not on par with HK, but definitely recommended if you like metroidvanias.

jariw · Jun 17, 2018

ScreenSplitter said:
Man with Steamworld 2, Bloodstained, Hollow Knight, and countless others, the Switch is Metroidvania Nirvana.

Yoku's Island Express as one of the best of those countless others.

dipship31 · Jun 17, 2018

DekuBleep said:
Are those first two also good?

Bloodstained is solid but steamworld dig 2 is amazing

hans_castorp · Jun 17, 2018

MonkeySleeve said:
Better find another key then :P

Just found it. It was very well hidden compared to the other two...

A_R_N_O_S said:
I really needed to go to Deepnest, had to look it up unfortunately. Learned you can bounce off cther things as well. I entered it via the pit.

What do you exactly need from Deepnest?Except for the mask, the rest is optional.
I wouldnt recommend getting the mask before the King's brand , or you'll miss some interesting dialogue.

Phil's Empty Chair · Jun 17, 2018

hans_castorp said:
Just found it. It was very well hidden compared to the other two...

What do you exactly need from Deepnest?Except for the mask, the rest is optional.
I wouldnt recommend getting the mask before the King's brand , or you'll miss some interesting dialogue.

Well thats what I figured since I cant seem to progress any further in Kings Edge. This is my first time eh.

Cassius Bright · Jun 17, 2018

So I was getting beaten by the early boss a few times. Took her on again, calm as a buddhist cow, and I absolutely buried her.

The whole game has now really opened up and I'm enjoying it loads! It's hard as balls though.

Kass15 · Jun 17, 2018

How much harder does it get compared to the Mantis Lords?

Dphex · Jun 17, 2018

Kass15 said:
How much harder does it get compared to the Mantis Lords?

depends....it certainly gets harder but it´s a fair game, it´s all pattern based...you can "train" the bosses till the execution is flawless

KarmaCow · Jun 17, 2018

Kass15 said:
How much harder does it get compared to the Mantis Lords?

To put it into Dark Souls terms, I'd say the Mantis Lords are like the gargoyles.

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