Horizon Zero Dawn has sold well over 10 million copies worldwide (2 year anniversary update)
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The part about the story is what I always think whenever I read someone saying Horizon doesn't have a good story. Like they only pay attention to what's happening in the present and not in what happened in the past, which is the best part and what Aloy is after (most of the game is basically her looking for answers and not blindly believing what her tribe told her).
I, legitimately, think that Horizon is easily the most engaged I've been with a game this gen. I genuinely love everything I experienced in the game and had a complete desire to see it right through to the end. The moment to moment game play is very satisfying and the story kept me gripped.
The DLC only improved on what was already there.
I'm looking forward to seeing what KojiPro do with the engine and where GG take Horizon next.
The DLC only improved on what was already there.
I'm looking forward to seeing what KojiPro do with the engine and where GG take Horizon next.
It's a gorgeous game with an interesting enough story and mostly engaging combat. Was not my cup of tea though, sadly.
How tho. They are on completely different platforms.
It's a joke. When they came out that was the narrative of many people trying to undermine HZD
Seeing so much Horizon love on social media. Really warms my heart to see Guerrilla become arguably Sony's second-most prominent studio.
I can't imagine how good Guerrilla's PS5 games are going to look.
Horizon: Zero Dawn was so good with plenty of room for improvement in a sequel, can't wait for it. Not that there needs to be romance in the sequel but I'm not buying Aloy as straight.
Of note is that 3.3 million were on PS3. Which are the only sales that really count since the rest was a remaster way later. And Detroit is approaching 3 million sales or maybe even hit it over the last shopping season. So yeah it will outsell HR soon on PS3 in way less time. Definetly their most successfull game relatively at that point, just need to wait a bit.
I'm pretty sure there are thousands of others like me with multiple unplayed copies of Horizon
I was LTTP with this game despite owning it since launch. I played it right after God of War and it was amazing that this game could easily hang with SSM's masterpiece. I expected it to be great but I still was surprised how well it played, and I only used half of Aloy's arsenal. Fantastic achchievement.
It is a great game and I did buy the Frozen Wilds dlc the other day so I'll be jumping back into Horizon soon
One thing someone else mentioned, but I do very much appreciate, is how Aloy doesn't exactly have "romances" in the game, but characters flirt with her - both male and female, and it feels very organic and Aloy's responses to their advances feel very nuanced and appropriate to her character.
She's not really here for the romance, as she's got too much on her plate and there's too much craziness happening around her, and I also like how she has a very clear boundary and understanding of the difference between attraction and infatuation. I also think the writers handled it SO well that she is - by any metric - a very beautiful young woman, even without being glammed up, but has moments of characters calling her attractive and those comments just sail over her head, because she grew up in isolation, rejected, and doesn't have much concept of self-love in the looks department. Her physical features are the furthest thing that she defines her value by, and how she handles people who express an interest with her always ensured the agency was in her hands.
It's great to have a character who is fairly immutable in her beliefs and values, and is despised, revered, rejected, and admired by various characters as a result.
I actually hope there is a male love interest for Aloy in the sequel
For me it was very clear she was attracted to Varl but ultimately realized her quest was more important than having a relationship in that moment
I'm not blind, yeah they tried to force a little something between her and Varl. I don't dislike him but he's basically the childhood friend archetype and he's no Vanasha, Talanah, or Petra. 😍
Aloy straight up says she like Varl, but not the time to be thinking about that.
It's a Rost's grave conversation
I don't think I could entertain a male love interest for Aloy. I just have zero interest in that. Either give me options or just don't go there at all.
Aloy x Talanah is pretty much the only relationship I'd even consider.
Aloy x Talanah is pretty much the only relationship I'd even consider.
I hope they just come up with a new character to be Aloy's pair in the sequel if they want to pursue romance. Didn't really like any of the characters all that much.
I like Vanasha because I love her costume, I like the dude with Marvelous Chester's voice because he has Marvelous Chester's voice, and I guess Avad is the only character I was more into for his personality, my husbando in the game. Oh, Rost was really cool, too, but that's partially because he didn't get the chance to talk too much.
I really like Aloy, but I feel like a lot of that is just due to her actions during gameplay. She's kind of annoying as a character, though I do feel like she's annoying in an endearing way, it made me laugh instead of roll my eyes when she was being annoying.
I like Vanasha because I love her costume, I like the dude with Marvelous Chester's voice because he has Marvelous Chester's voice, and I guess Avad is the only character I was more into for his personality, my husbando in the game. Oh, Rost was really cool, too, but that's partially because he didn't get the chance to talk too much.
I really like Aloy, but I feel like a lot of that is just due to her actions during gameplay. She's kind of annoying as a character, though I do feel like she's annoying in an endearing way, it made me laugh instead of roll my eyes when she was being annoying.
I found thee story cool. Easy to follow but pushing you to play to discover the plot.
My only wish is for actually play an older, more mellowed out Aloy so that she can also interact with her world in a more casual way.
I completely understand why she was the way she is due to the story, but I was still frustrated that for such a beautiful open world with all these civilizations, the only way I could interact with it was through killing things or scoffing. Not even being able to sit down to listen to the musicians in the regular game, or like wonder what are the small games and occupations from the populace. There was also the issue that the game makes huge parallels with actual native tribes, only to be painted actually in a pretty damn poor light, with Aloy sometimes acting as the "enlightened white saviour" (not all of the time of course and some aspects of the tribes were very cruel like the shadow carja of course. But the game paints a pretty poor light of all the tribes in the end, and Aloy expresses very little wonder or surprises to some things that would genuinely charm even people here (I was enchanted by my first sight of Meridian for example, but then was bummed that basically Aloy does not give a crap).
I absolutely loved the game overall. But I hope for a sequel that we could play like maybe a late 20's/early 30s aloy who'se now more integrated to her whole (without losing her sharp wit of course). Not necessarily to be more "friendly" (as I played her as combative and defiant when I could) but I would enjoy if I could interact with world more less as a total outsider
I completely understand why she was the way she is due to the story, but I was still frustrated that for such a beautiful open world with all these civilizations, the only way I could interact with it was through killing things or scoffing. Not even being able to sit down to listen to the musicians in the regular game, or like wonder what are the small games and occupations from the populace. There was also the issue that the game makes huge parallels with actual native tribes, only to be painted actually in a pretty damn poor light, with Aloy sometimes acting as the "enlightened white saviour" (not all of the time of course and some aspects of the tribes were very cruel like the shadow carja of course. But the game paints a pretty poor light of all the tribes in the end, and Aloy expresses very little wonder or surprises to some things that would genuinely charm even people here (I was enchanted by my first sight of Meridian for example, but then was bummed that basically Aloy does not give a crap).
I absolutely loved the game overall. But I hope for a sequel that we could play like maybe a late 20's/early 30s aloy who'se now more integrated to her whole (without losing her sharp wit of course). Not necessarily to be more "friendly" (as I played her as combative and defiant when I could) but I would enjoy if I could interact with world more less as a total outsider
Playing Frozen Wilds right now and all I can think about is HZD2 on PS5 with a heap more cpu creating a more complex world.
The world and lore that GG created is fantastic, but new hardware is going to deliver us something special. Can't wait.
The world and lore that GG created is fantastic, but new hardware is going to deliver us something special. Can't wait.
Yeah, the story is actually really freaking good. Too many damn audio logs, though. Hopefully they cut down on those in the sequel.
Yes, the story IS good. Though, like you said, they could definitely improve upon the way that it was told.
The only thing I don't want them to do is let you choose between abunch of people, either commit to 1 or 2 fully fleshed out relationship or don't bother. If Aloy just bangs anyone (like AC Odyssey handles it) I'd probably just ignore it all together and keep Aloy uninterested.
You can never have too much Nil, the one true (sociopathic) husbando.
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Some people like their stories fed to them. The story in Horizon is excellent but it's something you discover and that turns people off. I loved it and think it's extremely underrated in that dept.
The info dumps just aren't paced well really and sometimes would just get talked over which really annoyed me. The world is super interesting though, really can't wait to see where it goes.
Is this the whole sexual piety {in the eyes of the general straight (often white) men} thing that presumably has prevented developers from having straight female leads with love interests to ensure the protagonist is not devalued?
I can not remember a single game from recent memory where a game exclusively featured a straight female lead that included a romantic arc. Plenty of examples on the flip side though.
And, gay relationship for the aforementioned, imHo, does not challenge the inhibitions of a straight men who vicariously live through their PC's story arc.
Granted, romance in games, when left to player agency via series of options, have been generally been executed rather poorly.
US Gamer's attitude (with the exception of Mike) was pretty embarrassing, like they treated, and still treat the title like some sort of pariah that shall not be discussed. I usually enjoy the site, but in the case of HZD, it came off of as a case of people who were just too up BOTW's ass to be bothered with HZD. I would have rathered they just not reviewed the game since their take was so miserably bad. It was just too cynical and incorrect in a lot of things to take seriously. Like okay, you don't like HZD, your jaded view doesn't give you any cred or make you an interesting person.
Yes, women tend to be the love interest or lesbians in games.
I'd rather not have romance in games at all because they are always shit - this goes especially for optional ones that reduce them to a series of transactions in exchange for some character buff. Still, as media portrayals of interracial relationships where the male is black are almost unheard of in the US, my vote goes to Varl.
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Far too much to unpack here, but I'll just leave it alone lol. My post was about Aloy. Just Aloy. I personally have zero interest in a male love interest for her. Now if Sony decided to make an Uncharted: Lost Legacy 2 and gave Chloe a male love interest, I would totally dig that.
