Yeah this wasn't exactly like a big change of pace for the brutal tone of the game.
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I hate the Last of Us 2 because it goes too far (SPOILERS)
- Thread starter Mansa Mufasa
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I mean the violence was pretty tasteful? I've seen plenty more graphic depictions of violence in film.
It's very graphic and in a very grounded way, too, not over the top "I rip demons apart" Doom kind of way. So I understand if people have issues with that. My mother literally can't watch a movie where people are taking a heavy beating and even the sound of it is often enough so she'd have to leave the room depending on how long the scene goes on. If you can't stomach it you can't stomach it.
Personally, I didn't mind and knew what I was in for from the trailers, word of mouth, tone and style of part one, and ESBR/USK/FSK ratings.
Personally, I didn't mind and knew what I was in for from the trailers, word of mouth, tone and style of part one, and ESBR/USK/FSK ratings.
This. Also, pulling a knife against a dude who literally killed all the guards to get to the operating room, with that look on his face to save Ellie wasn't the smartest idea. It's practically begging for "please kill me with my own knife." At the very least it doesn't help to de-escalate.
The 'clip her wings' scene is the one that made me wince the most, even though we'd seen it already. I think it hit harder in the context of the narrative up to that point and what it potentially meant for the protag. One of my favorite games of the year though.
I understand you OP. I decided to never play this game way back after the torture trailer dropped, which I still haven't seen til the end. This just isn't for me. Too much violence, too much hating, too much darkness. I want the colorful creative lighthearted ND back. Hopefully we'll see a stift now that Druckmann steps up a level at the company, with some luck he won't have time to think out these horrible stories anymore.
Combined with the length of the game it WAS too much. If you're going hyper-graphic and extra edgy, don't do it for too long.
It's why I can't stomach the idea another brutal TLOU game. I love the story, characters, and gameplay, but I just don't wanna watch people suffer anymore in a supposed Part III, unless it's for a greater purpose like the search for a vaccine.
It's why I can't stomach the idea another brutal TLOU game. I love the story, characters, and gameplay, but I just don't wanna watch people suffer anymore in a supposed Part III, unless it's for a greater purpose like the search for a vaccine.
Before the game came out, I was actually initially turned off because of the violence until I watched some of the dev stuff and realised that it was all intentional and had a meaning beyond just being cool video game shit™
Being repulsed at the violence is kind of the whole point.
We have become super desensitised to violence in media, and are even encouraged to pursue and revel hedonistically in it within gaming. Turning a blind eye to that in regards to the narrative they were portraying would actually have been far, far worse imo. Ludonarrative dissonance got memed to death, but TLOU2 is the logical conclusion of where a legit discussion of violence in media takes you.
Being repulsed at the violence is kind of the whole point.
We have become super desensitised to violence in media, and are even encouraged to pursue and revel hedonistically in it within gaming. Turning a blind eye to that in regards to the narrative they were portraying would actually have been far, far worse imo. Ludonarrative dissonance got memed to death, but TLOU2 is the logical conclusion of where a legit discussion of violence in media takes you.
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I feel bad but for some reason the thought of OP throwing up towards the TV made me laugh. It takes so much more for a video game to make me that sick.
1, Why find blood and gore cool even if it's not real?
2, Isn't the whole point of fiction that it resembles that which is real? E.g. a sad story is meant to make you sad and not laugh. Realistic violence is not meant to be cool.
LOL, what? Maybe if you love violence so much the problem is with you? Getting sick seeing someone bite off another person's fingers seems...normal?
It was the only moment when I legitimately kind of went "eww".
The finger biting was shocking though.
The death scenes from clickers in both games actually freaks me out more.
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I find it so weird how this game get so much anger. Imagine, "hating" a video game. Think about that sentence. This person hates this video game.
It's as if something's happened to a very vocal portion of the audience over the last five or ten years. Something that made them unwilling to accept stories that go in unexpected ways or does things they did not expect or want. The same thing happened with The Last Jedi.
It feels like people in general has become less and less open for new things. I've lost count over how many things from 10 or 20 years ago todays audience would have raged themselves silly over. Like they only want things their way now and they will never ever let it go if they don't get it.
I really enjoyed TLOU 2. I found it to be a incredibly polished game with a fantastic combat system and very tense and gripping story. There is no clean cut hero or villain in the game I think. Both Ellie and Abby have aspects of hero and villain in them. I think that was a big part of the story. That there is no black or white in the world. No pure good or evil.
It's as if something's happened to a very vocal portion of the audience over the last five or ten years. Something that made them unwilling to accept stories that go in unexpected ways or does things they did not expect or want. The same thing happened with The Last Jedi.
It feels like people in general has become less and less open for new things. I've lost count over how many things from 10 or 20 years ago todays audience would have raged themselves silly over. Like they only want things their way now and they will never ever let it go if they don't get it.
I really enjoyed TLOU 2. I found it to be a incredibly polished game with a fantastic combat system and very tense and gripping story. There is no clean cut hero or villain in the game I think. Both Ellie and Abby have aspects of hero and villain in them. I think that was a big part of the story. That there is no black or white in the world. No pure good or evil.
If what you took away from this game was that Ellie was a villain and Joel was an "evil SOB" than I don't know what to tell you except you're wrong. Those notions go directly against the main themes of the story.
Left looks better. She looks exhausted and kinda broken. Better conveys the gruesome journey they went through during the game.This is whats wrong with Last of Us 2.
Yeah I thought this thread had to be about that part, the only part where it felt like it started going too far, I think I actually shouted NO at the TV! If it would've had a ton of that I may have a different view of the game.
He already said he is still going to be writing and directing.
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This is how she looks
Even this looks normal.
This is some uncanny vallely creepy cyborg. Only scene she looks like this. Its like they places ultra realistic eyes into a video game model.
youre special.
I disagree. This one scene artistically looks nothing like the rest of the game.
Yes nothing else has this "fidelity"
No other cutscene does she look like Will Maisie.
just think it looks uncanny.
LMAO. I finished the game. I hated it the moment I finished it. My GOTY. Im working on permadeath grounded right now to platinum the game. Disappointed in no PS5 upgraded.
They are the same age in that scene. She looks like young grandma Will Maisie for exactly one scene.
im utterly confused how this scene passed. Totally ruins the last scene for me. She looks hyper realistic, and she wasnt sad in the last scene. She was emotionless .
how about you stop being a child.
Some of you are overly protective of this game. Maybe to really set some of you cuties. Abby's tits suck.
Classic nonce post.This is whats wrong with Last of Us 2.
If you didn't write it black on white, I would have never guessed. What the hell.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed this. In a lot of ways, I noticed that LoU2 was a game designed around either subverting or taking seriously the tropes that games have taken for granted.
Protagonist power, for example. Uncharted is known for Drake slaughtering guys by the thousands and it's just kind of unremarked upon. Why is this one guy able to take out so many dozens of other people, other soldiers who've been trained in combat? And why is it that all these deaths are treated so casually, given that Drake kills like a full stadium of people every game? Well, the only real explanation is that as the main character, Drake has a life and personality outside combat, while the 'bad guys' just exist to be killed. Last of Us 1 dabbled in this as well, with how Joel was somehow just one guy that says over and over that his survival is based on luck, but he's always the one that comes out on top no matter how insane the situation gets.
This is what made playing Abby pretty interesting. First off, there is the obvious Joel death that isn't just brutal, but unceremonious. This character that survived so much actually was just getting lucky all this time, and now his luck ran out the day he met Abby. But more importantly, since Abby is Ellie's enemy, we get to see that protagonist power isn't just limited to Joel and Ellie, but a bunch of different people. Jesse has it too...but then there's that scene in the theater where he runs out and Abby by reflex shoots him through the face. His death is as unceremonious and instant and meaningless (to Abby) as any other of the hundreds of NPC's that she shot exactly like him. The only way Jesse is different is because we knew him through Ellie, and like Joel, he was this guy who could run through an army of infected and WLF...just up until the day he couldn't.
This is one of the few games that actually takes to heart making the player feel like they aren't playing a 'special' character, because in actuality all characters, including NPC's, go through life like Joel and Ellie and Abby until they meet one character who gets that lucky shot on them.
Did you really just swerve into people being "protective of the fame" for calling out that drive by shit post that looked a bit creepy?
This is how she looks
Even this looks normal.
This is some uncanny vallely creepy cyborg. Only scene she looks like this. Its like they places ultra realistic eyes into a video game model.
youre special.
I disagree. This one scene artistically looks nothing like the rest of the game.
Yes nothing else has this "fidelity"
No other cutscene does she look like Will Maisie.
just think it looks uncanny.
LMAO. I finished the game. I hated it the moment I finished it. My GOTY. Im working on permadeath grounded right now to platinum the game. Disappointed in no PS5 upgraded.
They are the same age in that scene. She looks like young grandma Will Maisie for exactly one scene.
im utterly confused how this scene passed. Totally ruins the last scene for me. She looks hyper realistic, and she wasnt sad in the last scene. She was emotionless .
how about you stop being a child.
Some of you are overly protective of this game. Maybe to really set some of you cuties. Abby's tits suck.
Lol, come on...
I mean you could have said it in the first place, but ending your long post with
This is how she looks
Even this looks normal.
This is some uncanny vallely creepy cyborg. Only scene she looks like this. Its like they places ultra realistic eyes into a video game model.
youre special.
I disagree. This one scene artistically looks nothing like the rest of the game.
Yes nothing else has this "fidelity"
No other cutscene does she look like Will Maisie.
just think it looks uncanny.
LMAO. I finished the game. I hated it the moment I finished it. My GOTY. Im working on permadeath grounded right now to platinum the game. Disappointed in no PS5 upgraded.
They are the same age in that scene. She looks like young grandma Will Maisie for exactly one scene.
im utterly confused how this scene passed. Totally ruins the last scene for me. She looks hyper realistic, and she wasnt sad in the last scene. She was emotionless .
how about you stop being a child.
Some of you are overly protective of this game. Maybe to really set some of you cuties. Abby's tits suck.
doesn't help at all.
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Honestly, it was a really weird experience for me. Yes, I've played all the God of Wars (love them) Helios' death was one of the coolest things to me. I was okay with most of the gore here and had no problem. But man, dismemberment.. for me personally there's something just horrifying there and I think Naughty Dog did an excellent job telling the story here because prior to the fight, I was saying, Ellie. Let it go. Just gwan. And then the fight happened and Im like omg here we go.
I was amped and as it's going on, I see Abby get Ellie's hand in her mouth and then saw the fingers flying, and yeah...it was too much. I've only felt that grossed out before when I watched the Human Centipede. I wouldn't be surprised if my subconscious is now associating Human Centipede with TLOU2 now because of it.
I was amped and as it's going on, I see Abby get Ellie's hand in her mouth and then saw the fingers flying, and yeah...it was too much. I've only felt that grossed out before when I watched the Human Centipede. I wouldn't be surprised if my subconscious is now associating Human Centipede with TLOU2 now because of it.
The scene has nothing to do with being exhausted or broken. Did you play the second game?
When movies and TV went mainstream all the gore was gone and didn't increase at all, as we all know.
Production value is amazing, story choices are very balsy and pretty great.
Story pacing is lazy and character treatment is shit (except probably for owen).
I can't understand why that game had so much praise over the story when they had to bend characters to make the plot fit in. That should be the contrary.
Story pacing is lazy and character treatment is shit (except probably for owen).
I can't understand why that game had so much praise over the story when they had to bend characters to make the plot fit in. That should be the contrary.
Easy to say now but I'm guessing that he'll eventually take a backseat approach kinda like Miyamoto. I guess he might still control the content though and that's the problem from my point of view. He's just too darkminded, he's great at writing characters and relationships but everything he's directing seems to go super dark. Except Uncharted 4, somehow he managed to get a happy ending there.
Yeah, I've definitely had responses like this before. There's no shame in it, though.
Haha. It's been a long time since I played it. Can't say I remember that. But it adds up with the second one. I get its a video game, but if they are going for a realistic story, having the characters be super heroes takes you out of the experience pretty quickly
Well it's for a reason, lol. Uncharted and TLOU are different series. He doesn't specifically want to make violent gore fests. He loves making emotional character driven games. TLOU just happens to be in a violent setting.
I hate it because of the uneasy feeling they make you feel for the first 15 hours. It's suffocating. The music, art, etc all contribute to it and it isn't great
That was her realizing it was all for nothing and Joel was probably lying, she absolutely was exhausted and broken after the Hospital. She literally never gets over it even and it constantly eats away before she just goes and finds out for herself.
I disagree with every point in the op. The game didn't go far enough. There's zero satisfaction or closure until Ellie (justifiably) puts a bullet through Abby's skull.
If you're going to complain about graphic violence, you should have sat this series out a long time ago. The E3 audience cheered when Joel shotgunned a pleading enemy point blank so many years ago. That was your clue to quietly leave the room and play something else.
If you're going to complain about graphic violence, you should have sat this series out a long time ago. The E3 audience cheered when Joel shotgunned a pleading enemy point blank so many years ago. That was your clue to quietly leave the room and play something else.
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That's not what they said. They were talking about it being the end of the first game. In TLOU1 in that scene, Ellie looks like exactly the same as the start of the game. It makes total sense she should look older and more exhausted by that point.
Im not concerned about swerving into questioning people's protectiveness, when they are basically calling me a pedo. For disliking graphics and changing a expression on one of the best video game scenes of all time.
Its the truth thought. People really have to relax. Abby has a nice ass. Bad tits. Excuse my heterosexual ass.
I don't think blood/gore is cool, I just don't care if I see them in fiction.
What I can't take are movies made to be disgusting like Human Centipede, but I'm sure many people just laugh while watching.
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You made a stupid ahit post that set yourself up for EXACTLY that.
If you aren't smart enough to see this, even now with hindsight and feedback, it isn't on us.
That's super weird to me. I thought the violence and gore was way worse in God of War. I played the original 3 this year, then TLOU 2 and then GoW PS4.
Just reading the wiki description of human centipede was worse for me than anything that happens in any of the games.
normally I wouldn't but it's not the first nor the last time I've seen gamers griping over how a female character has been changed/updated. I've lost count really. The picture itself has been used in several discussions outside of era deriding how they've "ruined" Ellie. I can't take this fixation in good faith. It's a minor change that doesn't deserve discussion nor as some merit excuse to say this is why so and so game sucks. I don't own or intend to pay Tlou2 before someone thinks I'm some sort of upset fanboy.
See what I mean. Still think I was out of line?
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The first game was violent as fuck, it just didn't look anywhere near as good lol.