I'm trans and I highly doubt this is a transphobic tweetDear cis people, maybe, just maybe, trans people might be able to recognize transphobic dogwhistles better than you.
I'm trans and I highly doubt this is a transphobic tweetDear cis people, maybe, just maybe, trans people might be able to recognize transphobic dogwhistles better than you.
That's my point, though - I think it's wrong to characterize resistance to understanding/adapting to inclusive language as a "right-wing" thing. It's much more common than that. People in general suck at being trans-inclusive and hate being told they have to change.
Don't read into a post, read the postYou think he actually believes he's 'not allowed' to say those terms anymore? Really? That he's saying that in good faith?
The key takeaway here being "right-wingers aren't the only people who pull this shit."I think it's wrong to characterize resistance to understanding/adapting to inclusive language as a "right-wing" thing. It's much more common than that.
We literally have an "inclusive language guide" and "words to avoid" list at work so... yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if that's how the push for inclusive language is being understood by *lots and lots of people*.You think he actually believes he's 'not allowed' to say those terms anymore? Really? That he's saying that in good faith? You think we can just perform some outreach and clear that up and he'll be able to breath a sigh of relief?
We literally have an "inclusive language guide" and "words to avoid" list at work so... yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if that's how the push for inclusive language is being understood by *lots and lots of people*.
He's not a right-winger, though.I've heard he's a piece of shit so this is far from surprising.
Most right wingers in Hollywood seem to be rather tight lipped but whatever's left of his career probably won't be hurt by this.
He's a pretty awful performer who lucked into a sensational role.
He's tweeted twice since then and has made no attempt to clarify or otherwise address this tweet
Agreed insofar as it being debatable whether Rainn really understands that what he's putting out there is verbatim a gender critical and transphobic talking point, but it is one. It's used to feed into the common idea that trans acceptance goes hand in hand with the erasure of women, which is a key component of modern radicalisation.
I've heard he's a piece of shit so this is far from surprising.
Most right wingers in Hollywood seem to be rather tight lipped
That post is a very obvious transphobe talking point, though.I feel like if you're going to title a thread with "posting transphobic memes" you have to show a tweet that is obviously transphobic to most people and show more than one tweet.
He is not remotely a right winger. He is a liberal.
This whole "someone said something transphobic so they must be a Republican" thing needs to stop. Liberals can be bigots too.
Sorry I had to avatar quoteSuch a stupid hill to die on, i can count on one hand the number of times I've discussed breast feeding in my life
Yeah, the use of "can" there is the big red flag for me, too. Even just changing that one word to "should" would make a world of difference."Can no longer"
"Just FYI"
Yeah, sure maybe it was just PSA about inclusive language that just so happened to be poorly worded to the point it reads like a condescending jape about trans/enby folks stealing the identity of women... sure.
Wait did I miss something? What did he do/say?I've heard he's a piece of shit so this is far from surprising.
I'll admit the tone of the tweet is questionable. But! I genuinely didn't know this was a no-no! Happy to learn myself. But really hard to gauge what the intended tone of this tweet is.
I've heard he's a piece of shit so this is far from surprising.
Implying the erasure of women (in the reply he's debunked by someone saying you can still say breastfeeding) and inclusive language being oppressive ("you can no longer say") is kinda a transphobic dogwhistle. It's not blatant bigotry that would be obvious to every cis person, I guess.I feel like if you're going to title a thread with "posting transphobic memes" you have to show a tweet that is obviously transphobic to most people and show more than one tweet.
Wait, is this transphobia or just an "Oh hey I learned something new today." tweet.
Oh it is. Many though are probably nodding their head in agreement. Not saying anybody here, but cis in general. You say things like this because you know who you are speaking to, likeminded people. It is not often you hit the exact language of bigots by accident.Implying the erasure of women (in the reply he's debunked by someone saying you can still say breastfeeding) and inclusive language being oppressive ("you can no longer say") is kinda a transphobic dogwhistle. It's not blatant bigotry that would be obvious to every cis person, I guess.
I'll admit the tone of the tweet is questionable. But! I genuinely didn't know this was a no-no! Happy to learn myself. But really hard to gauge what the intended tone of this tweet is.
Is breastfeeding really gendered? Don't we all have breasts regardless of gender?
You know what else people like to do in this forum? When it turns out they were wrong and said person is shit, they disappear. I remember how often that happened when Musk bought twitter.This forum loves dogpiling and assuming the worst without any clarification. Then they'll just deflect being called out by claiming the person was always a scumbag or something they're associated with must imply they're a scumbag and refuse to admit they probably just misunderstood the tweet.
Technically yes but how often have you ever heard a man refer to their breasts as breasts? It is most definitely a gender specific term for most, outside of like medical terminology.Is breastfeeding really gendered? Don't we all have breasts regardless of gender?
Your post reads entirely ignorant of the fact his tweet is worded in the /exact/ same ways as GC/TERF rethoric.This forum loves dogpiling and assuming the worst without any clarification. Then they'll just deflect being called out by claiming the person was always a scumbag or something they're associated with must imply they're a scumbag and refuse to admit they probably just misunderstood the tweet.
200%This forum loves dogpiling and assuming the worst without any clarification. Then they'll just deflect being called out by claiming the person was always a scumbag or something they're associated with must imply they're a scumbag and refuse to admit they probably just misunderstood the tweet.
It's not about the word being inherently gendered as feminine.
It's about whether the specific trans man or nonbinary patient feels like calling their chest "breasts" causes dysphoria/otherwise makes them feel like they are not being seen as their gender.
Technically yes but how often have you ever heard a man refer to their breasts as breasts? It is most definitely a gender specific term for most, outside of like medical terminology.
Yeah, I think it's hard to really say without any clarification, but I wouldn't throw someone under the bus entirely based on one not entirely clear tweet. people making the assumption he's super conservative after this is pretty wild too if other posters are right about him typically posting progressive stuff.
This is the one possible angle I could believe. And if so you would think he would have clarified after all the angry responses he got because clearly the point was lost.If this is a thing right-wingers are running with, maybe he's saying it sarcastically because of how absurd it is on its face?
Another thing this forum likes to do is downplay when trans members on Era identify bigoted dogwhistles. Unlike (perhaps) you or I, they have to live with this level of bigotry on a regular basis, so they're pretty good at calling a spade a spade.This forum loves dogpiling and assuming the worst without any clarification. Then they'll just deflect being called out by claiming the person was always a scumbag or something they're associated with must imply they're a scumbag and refuse to admit they probably just misunderstood the tweet.
Yeah, I think it's hard to really say without any clarification, but I wouldn't throw someone under the bus entirely based on one not entirely clear tweet. people making the assumption he's super conservative after this is pretty wild too if other posters are right about him typically posting progressive stuff.
And I'm not even a fan of his. If he ends up being a dick they'd too bad, but I wouldn't make the full leap just yet.