The game wasn't originally included because it's not one of their GotY nominees. They expanded the list with more games after people started complaining.
IGN removes GOTY poll after Death Stranding takes lead, IGN Moderator mocks users for voting for it
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Sure I have no problem with criticism should this turn out to be true.
I just have so little investment in reader polls for trivial things like this in general though which is why some of the more heated responses calling IGN garbage because of this are lost on me.
Who knows? User reviews and, in turn, user polls are almost always useless on sites like these so it wouldn't exactly be that out-of-the-ordinary for people to start inflating DS's votes after the 'controversy' of it not being included in the first place.
You literally couldn't post a review for the game if you didn't finish it. It was an unprecedented part of the game's review embargo and was well-published around the time reviews came out.
Jesus.
Not sure mods can edit articles, so it was likely staff that edited the article to remove the poll and mentions to it.
I simply cannot understand why anyone thinks that admirers of Kojima's works would like something he makes simply due to his name being attached to a given project... It was the most die-hard of his following who have such an incredible disdain for MGSV. Death Stranding is excellent, as far as I'm concerned. I understand that it's not for everyone, because nothing is, but I don't understand the vitriol directed at it.
I didn't read their review, but that's a pretty serious claim, considering the review copies went out with strict guidelines to beat the game, do you have anything to back that up...
Isn't this just forum drama?
Or does the CEO of IGN also moderate their forums on a daily basis?
Or does the CEO of IGN also moderate their forums on a daily basis?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They didn't think it was GOTY so it wasn't on their nominees. That's why it was omitted from the poll. Then from user requests they added it and it got a ton of votes. It's easy to understand that they might have felt there was vote manipulation going on, regardless of whether or not there was a coordinated effort to disrupt the poll. It's not unusual for user votes on websites to turn into shitshows. Happens on Metacritic and sites like that all the time.
Well they remedied that so...
They added multiple games after people started complaining.
Will never understand why this game triggers people so hard. One of many polarizing games we've gotten yet none have generated this level of discussion. Quite bizarre.
Oh, the irony!
Oh, the irony!
Going "guys calm down and stop demonising an entire 700+ employee site based on the speculation of a single Reddit user," is not taking part in a flame war. It shouldn't matter at all but DS has a guaranteed spot on my GOTY list; I just find the hatred that IGN is getting here to be both overblown and incredibly short-sighted.
How is that ironic? That I acknowledge the fact that user reviews and polls are often times full of brigaiding? Is that really "conspiracy theory thinking" now or are you just using that for points against someone you believe is "triggered"?
And don't user "triggered" to refer to petty stuff like this. Please.
Then is a really bad look for IGN then, why even update the list to include DS in the first place? Ridiculous.
Ah, you're the type that will keep moving goalposts and twisting the situation whenever it changes so that it fits with the way you want to see it. I've seen these types of posts before. So now that we know it's an actual poll (terribly-handled since the beginning) you'll keep throwing hypotheticals and going around in circles.
7,000 votes had already been cast before death stranding was even added to the poll, a lot of other games too
I don't understand why they'd be bothered about a community vote for Death Stranding? Surely if that's what the community votes for that's all that matters? IGN doubling down on this just seems crazy.
Ironically Dunkey would probably defend IGN on the Death Stranding stuff because he hated that game and he also made a followup video to that Game Critics video where he partially criticized regular users for giving IGN shit for their Days Gone review.
Giant bomb probably hates the game even more (wouldn't be surprised if it is actually in contention for "worst game of the year" for them), however they do recognize others do like it so that's fine.
Here is the rub my guy
That MOD represents IGN in a semi professional capacity. They may not be aware of it but any shenanigans that they do that the parent company doesnt disavow or punish immediately means that the company is ok with it.
This is litteraly why corporate or any sort of collab drop people like they are hot when they get mixed up in any sort of controversy.
A similar ground level comparison would be a kid dumb enough to steal while wearing a school uniform. His ass is grass ahead a lawnmower because the school would not suffer an embarrassment like that and either root him out or punish all students. ( then the ones who do know would probably take matters in their own hands but this is a digression)
So to answer silly question, we would be saying resetera is garbage, UNTIL they oust the offending mod.
What?
What?
Yes, the original poll was an official one, but we have no clue why it was taken down or who it was taken down by. Questioning that isn't "moving the goalposts," it's just not agreeing to start posting "FUCK IGN," based on speculation and hearsay.
Seriously the only time I vehemently disagreed with IGN on a score. It's not perfect but man, it's not a 6.anything IMHO. I already put 70* hours into and can't even get out of chapter 3 lol! I will be playing DS for the rest of the year, it's such a chill game.
I assume they honestly thought everyone else shared their views that it was a mediocre game.
Personally, I found the game often frustrating and indulgent. I wouldn't include it in my top 10 games of this year.
But I also know a buddy who thinks it's a masterpiece.
Either way, if IGN didn't want people to consider Death Stranding for voter's GOTY, they've successfully done everything they could've to make sure this game dominates the conversation and mobilizes people to vote for it, if only to spite them.
"If Kojima's name wasn't on it no one would care". That means:
1. You're a wise person who knows Death Stranding is a mediocre game at best.
2. You love DS, so you're an idiot who can't look at the game by itself and only like it because of Kojima
That's not good words from an IGN moderator...
One is the assumption a website has it out for a certain game, the other post talks about zealous fanboys doing what zealous fanboys tend to do. There's no irony there lol.
Imagine telling the Internet that they can't do something and not expect the Internet to do exactly that.
If Death Stranding wasn't going to win, it will now.
If Death Stranding wasn't going to win, it will now.
I am pretty sure the removal of the poll is the focus here, which absolutely represents IGN as a whole. Don't care what some random forum moderator has to say.
And that is definitely worthy of the hate going their way. No matter what game was leading the poll.
Did we read different review threads? Here everyone was saying that the high reviews were either paid or because the reviewers were biased.
Thank you. Personally, I was such a massive fan of his but I felt betrayed by MGS V. As exaggerated as that sounds, I was so invested in that series that the way he handled the story left me feeling quite empty inside. I was even a part of that Never Be Game Over reddit movement looking for answers within the game because I was so desperate. I really disliked Kojima since, but here I am, addicted to DS lol People seem to think he gets a free pass but he really doesn't and DS got a lot of scathing criticisms yet some are unable to separate their feelings towards him and the games he makes.
Anyway...this DS discourse is really wild :p
Really you don't get why people get up in arms about this game? Its pretty obvious like, right in your face.
Yeah yeah, the poll didn't originally include DS, then it did and IGN didn't reset it, which started the whole shitshow. Not everyone's going "Fuck IGN" lol, but that generalization... I've seen it before in this forum too. People are completely allowed to believe this is very suspect and that IGN mishandled the whole situation, you can agree with that at least, right? Or are we throwing another hypothetical situation?
Are IGN moderators part of IGN, and involved in the review process and creation of polls and articles?
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